Let's not forget, Khan was advised by him to move up because he was too big for 135.
At 135 he got truly KTFO and also got dropped by a guy with 5 KO's... and another dude who was a bum on the world stage.
Khan had far more flaws before Roach and actually became a World Titlist... while also beating some good fighters and competing with others.
I don't think Roach picks any fighters opponents, promoters have matchmakers who do that. Roach just talks a lot.
Anyway, putting him in with Maidana and Garcia would not have been smartest moves.
I am pretty sure he had a lot of influence in the match making. They did everything to pospone the Maidana fight and only took it when they were forced to when Maidana was taking legal action. Garcia was a reaction to the Peterson situation a gamble to gain what was lost.In both those cases circumstances forced the fights. The same thing is happening now with this Collazo fight,that is happening because of Khan's obsession with landing a Mayweather fight the same obsession that made him take the Garcia gamble.
Roach's greatest skill is considered to be his match making abilities. A lot of Khan's success is down to Roach guiding him and picking the right fights and working round his deficencies. He picked the right fights and gave him gameplans to win. I don't think Roach would have allowed a Collazo fight and think it is highly likely he is making these comments against Hunter now because he knows Khan has bitten off more than he can chew.
When Khan was under Roach he always fought short little guys which suited his style but now he will be fighting guys his own size I just don't see things working out so well. The reason we won't see Khan at the same sort of level again is because he won't be fighting the same level of opposition.
I don't think Roach picks any fighters opponents, promoters have matchmakers who do that. Roach just talks a lot.
Anyway, putting him in with Maidana and Garcia would not have been smartest moves.
Khan had the best part of his career with Roach and i personally don't think that he will get to that level.again.
Also Ariza helped stabilize khan massively, putting more weight in his legs and giving him a stronger base.
Roach's greatest skill is considered to be his match making abilities. A lot of Khan's success is down to Roach guiding him and picking the right fights and working round his deficencies. He picked the right fights and gave him gameplans to win. I don't think Roach would have allowed a Collazo fight and think it is highly likely he is making these comments against Hunter now because he knows Khan has bitten off more than he can chew.
When Khan was under Roach he always fought short little guys which suited his style but now he will be fighting guys his own size I just don't see things working out so well. The reason we won't see Khan at the same sort of level again is because he won't be fighting the same level of opposition.
Hunter has him fighting the right gameplan, Khan has to flurry and move or he'll get caught and dropped. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work but there's no choice for him at this stage. He can't fight like he fought under Roach, he was getting tagged way too much.
I guess to u the only beast is Mayweather or something. U guys bash top tier fighters like as if they're bums. Smh
This got nothing to do with Floyd, Khan ain't a beast, never was :lol1:
Khan had the best part of his career with Roach and i personally don't think that he will get to that level.again.
Also Ariza helped stabilize khan massively, putting more weight in his legs and giving him a stronger base.
Khan was never a beast in his career, not ever.
I suppose the beatings he took under Freddie Roach, regardless of whether he won or lost, has nothing to do with his downfall at this point? Lets stop playing pretend.
I guess to u the only beast is Mayweather or something. U guys bash top tier fighters like as if they're bums. Smh
He got ktfo by Prescott and dropped numerous times prior. His defence was the same if not worse in fact, but he faced lesser guys. He has always taken shots flush.
His downfall is due to his own mistakes. For example trying to KO Garcia.
Peterson was on PED's.
Maidana got him with a good shot and he was hurt, but still came on strong after considering.
Regardless, he took a lot of punishment against Maidana, Peterson, Danny Garcia, it's insane to think Hunter could have improved him. The punch Julio Diaz landed looked like it didn't have punch power behind it and yet Khan dropped like GTA physics.
Khan's flaws are Khan's fault. I doubt Roach advised Khan to stay in the pocket too long with his chin in the air.
That type of stuff was easily addressed by Roach, I'm sure of it.
You can lead a horse to the water, you can't make him drink!
I suppose the beatings he took under Freddie Roach, regardless of whether he won or lost, has nothing to do with his downfall at this point? Lets stop playing pretend.
He got ktfo by Prescott and dropped numerous times prior. His defence was the same if not worse in fact, but he faced lesser guys. He has always taken shots flush.
His downfall is due to his own mistakes. For example trying to KO Garcia.
Peterson was on PED's.
Maidana got him with a good shot and he was hurt, but still came on strong after considering.
I suppose the beatings he took under Freddie Roach, regardless of whether he won or lost, has nothing to do with his downfall at this point? Lets stop playing pretend.
Correction: Being around Manny made Khan a better fighter, moreso than being with Roach. I'm not discounting what Roach accomplished with Khan from a technical view-point, but Pacman had a greater impact. Khan got to see and witness first-hand how to fight when you have speed on your side.
Being around Pacquiao was actually detrimental to Khan because he started to try to fight too much like him when he doesn't have the same attributes.
Roach did the best he could with Khan, I don't think he really made him any better although in some ways he got him to fight more to some of his strengths which helped him be more effective for a while but the flaws never changed and were costly in the end.
It really comes down to Khan not Roach though.
Correction: Being around Manny made Khan a better fighter, moreso than being with Roach. I'm not discounting what Roach accomplished with Khan from a technical view-point, but Pacman had a greater impact. Khan got to see and witness first-hand how to fight when you have speed on your side.