FLOYD IS THROWING CRAAAAAZY COMBINATIONS AND IS GOING TO PUT ON A SHOW AGAINST MARCOS. Against Canelo he had people cheering and he was in the pocket but this dude must be back on that SHIET because he is going even HARDER!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9wzbsiFGC0
"Floyd really wont have any real foes at ww. He should really make a permanent move to 54 " - Murkman
You made all these excuses about Floyd at 154 but here you are in another thread saying the above.
You pretty much owned yourself there! :footinmou: :rofl:
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And btw, I didnt make "All these excuses" I said ONE thing about him not being obligated. And it also was not an excuse since he cant make the weight. Go back to my last post and respond to the few paragraphs you ignored.
"Floyd really wont have any real foes at ww. He should really make a permanent move to 54 " - Murkman
You made all these excuses about Floyd at 154 but here you are in another thread saying the above.
You pretty much owned yourself there! :footinmou: :rofl:
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Dummy, in this same thread I made the exact same statement. Multiple times.
Now back to the things you ignored;
I dont care about what You thought about Canelo, or what most analyst thought about Canelo. You posted a whole paragraph about what YOU thought and what OTHER people thought. As if you were using that to make me discredit the performance.
Now name a fighter in history that can fight the GREEN Canelo and walk him down without getting grazed. For some reason you talk around it, or under it. Seems to me like answering this question honestly would kill whatever your trying to say.
You typed a WHOLE lot about Martinez who I BARELY spoke on in my comment. All this stuff about the excuses Floyd made to avoid him. They werent excuses because Floyd aint obligated to fight him. You said I "basically admitted that Floyd is a beast at 154" No, I BLATANTLY said they he is the best of all time, and that he was too strong for 47. But at the end of the day, he's not a 54lber and that wont change. Any fight at that weight is a bonus fight not a duck. And Canelo was a GREAT risk. He was 164lbs and Floyd STILL walked him down.
You typed a bunch about Manny's weight, I dont care about that. Its another tangent.
You didnt show proof that Bradley wouldnt get the manny fight. You showed a link of Bradley SAYING he wouldnt get the fight. Now back to the stuff you ignored;
Arum WOULD have made the fight because its the only fight their for Manny. Its the same as Ghost and Floyd's situation. Golden Boy had him sign an extension before fighting Floyd so he thought that if he didnt sign it he wouldnt get the fight. But he didnt have to sign it because Floyd had no one else to fight.
Its the same with Pac, Bradley did NOT have to resign. He had one more fight left with Top Rank, and Manny had no one else to fight except Bradley. They had a controversial fight that called for a rematch to happen at some point. Bradley already knew he didnt have to sign the contract and he knew he would get the fight anyways.
He only resigned because he is either stupid, or because he wanted to cherrypick Rios, and Mike Alvarado and avoid the top fighters at golden boy. He even lied and said he did it to feed his family, when he is already rich, and fightig the 10-20 fighters at golden boy would equate to enough money to compare to one big pay check against Pac, and the other bums
I said that all the fights at ww would basically be promised to Bradley(excluding Floyd). For some reason you flipped it around to me saying, "A fight with Floyd would be promised" You spoke about GB promising Khan a fight with Floyd and used that as an example. You also talked about Floyd saying Pac is next, then contradictng himself. You used that as an example. None of that was relevant to anything I said. So why did you even say that? I feel it was a cheap troll tactic. Im gonna need you to respond to this and tell me why ya did it my dawg.
I asked you what fight was worth seeing more; Bradley vs Rios and Mike Alvarado, or Bradley vs the 10- 20 fighters at GB. For some reason you keep duckin and dodging this one. I need you to address this one broskie.
I made a comment about how Bradley was inactive because TR didnt have any credible opponents for him to face. So they cherrypicked a NO name with power, who didnt DESERVE to face Bradley, and almost BEAT Bradley. I stated how if Bradley was to lose, it would be DEVASTATING to him. Losing to a cherrypick with power. I need you to respond to stop duckin and dodgin.
You say him beating Manny would be a great achievement but he feels he already BEAT him. Not only that but Pac is an old fighter coming off of bad fights. No, beating Pac is NOT better than him beating Garcia, Lucas, Thurman, Ghost etc. Because without that handful of fighters, who OWN his division, his whole resume is GREATLY empty. The only credible ww on his entire resume is Pac and JMM. None of the real ww's are on it. I need you to respond to this as well
I dont care about what You thought about Canelo, or what most analyst thought about Canelo. You posted a whole paragraph about what YOU thought and what OTHER people thought. As if you were using that to make me discredit the performance.
Now name a fighter in history that can fight the GREEN Canelo and walk him down without getting grazed. For some reason you talk around it, or under it. Seems to me like answering this question honestly would kill whatever your trying to say.
You typed a WHOLE lot about Martinez who I BARELY spoke on in my comment. All this stuff about the excuses Floyd made to avoid him. They werent excuses because Floyd aint obligated to fight him. You said I "basically admitted that Floyd is a beast at 154" No, I BLATANTLY said they he is the best of all time, and that he was too strong for 47. But at the end of the day, he's not a 54lber and that wont change. Any fight at that weight is a bonus fight not a duck. And Canelo was a GREAT risk. He was 164lbs and Floyd STILL walked him down.
You typed a bunch about Manny's weight, I dont care about that. Its another tangent.
You didnt show proof that Bradley wouldnt get the manny fight. You showed a link of Bradley SAYING he wouldnt get the fight. Now back to the stuff you ignored;
Arum WOULD have made the fight because its the only fight their for Manny. Its the same as Ghost and Floyd's situation. Golden Boy had him sign an extension before fighting Floyd so he thought that if he didnt sign it he wouldnt get the fight. But he didnt have to sign it because Floyd had no one else to fight.
Its the same with Pac, Bradley did NOT have to resign. He had one more fight left with Top Rank, and Manny had no one else to fight except Bradley. They had a controversial fight that called for a rematch to happen at some point. Bradley already knew he didnt have to sign the contract and he knew he would get the fight anyways.
He only resigned because he is either stupid, or because he wanted to cherrypick Rios, and Mike Alvarado and avoid the top fighters at golden boy. He even lied and said he did it to feed his family, when he is already rich, and fightig the 10-20 fighters at golden boy would equate to enough money to compare to one big pay check against Pac, and the other bums
I said that all the fights at ww would basically be promised to Bradley(excluding Floyd). For some reason you flipped it around to me saying, "A fight with Floyd would be promised" You spoke about GB promising Khan a fight with Floyd and used that as an example. You also talked about Floyd saying Pac is next, then contradictng himself. You used that as an example. None of that was relevant to anything I said. So why did you even say that? I feel it was a cheap troll tactic. Im gonna need you to respond to this and tell me why ya did it my dawg.
I asked you what fight was worth seeing more; Bradley vs Rios and Mike Alvarado, or Bradley vs the 10- 20 fighters at GB. For some reason you keep duckin and dodging this one. I need you to address this one broskie.
I made a comment about how Bradley was inactive because TR didnt have any credible opponents for him to face. So they cherrypicked a NO name with power, who didnt DESERVE to face Bradley, and almost BEAT Bradley. I stated how if Bradley was to lose, it would be DEVASTATING to him. Losing to a cherrypick with power. I need you to respond to stop duckin and dodgin.
You say him beating Manny would be a great achievement but he feels he already BEAT him. Not only that but Pac is an old fighter coming off of bad fights. No, beating Pac is NOT better than him beating Garcia, Lucas, Thurman, Ghost etc. Because without that handful of fighters, who OWN his division, his whole resume is GREATLY empty. The only credible ww on his entire resume is Pac and JMM. None of the real ww's are on it. I need you to respond to this as well
"Floyd really wont have any real foes at ww. He should really make a permanent move to 54 " - Murkman
You made all these excuses about Floyd at 154 but here you are in another thread saying the above.
You pretty much owned yourself there! :footinmou: :rofl:
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" post links about what THIS person feels about Canelo" - MurkMan
"Floyd didn't duck Martinez when he was called out" - MurkMan
"Bradley is ducking Khan, Garcia, Lucas and instead fighting Manny Pacquiao" - Murkman
Here is what I said about Canelo:
Buddy, what are you talking about?
Many analysts were saying this, Showtime brought it up, Floyd and company too.
So MurkMan is right and they got it wrong? I can understand before the fight some people bought into the hype but after watching the fight, even you MurkMan should have realized this .... but like I said, you just don't get it.
So fighting Angulo at 155 is the same as fighting Floyd at 152? Thanks MurkMan for the laugh! Style, level of fighter and weight made the difference.
Canelo needed more fights against quality opponents, fix his weaknesses and then we can judge his chance. That version was relatively green and didn't know what he was getting into. You don't try to outbox Floyd unless you have the qualities and advantage in that area to do so.
Here is what I said about Martinez:
Floyd fought at 154, before, during and after being called out by Martinez.
Martinez was considered a 154lb who just moved up to get money fights.
Proof from Floyd's camp that they were using as excuse not to fight Martinez, money wasn't going to generate $100 million for Floyd. Yet, Floyd fight's other fights for less and some of his opponents are relatively unknown. So to me that is a terrible excuse. Like he has been doing, when his opponent doesn't help attract PPV buys, get a good undercard. Did Floyd say no to a Guerrero fight because he will not do $100 million?
"Who is Guerrero? Who has he beat? I'm no Berto" - Floyd Mayweather
Floyd's team also said that he would go to 160 for the right money and also said that "skills pay the bills not size". So even though I proved above that it was a bad excuse due to Floyd's history, if you would at least come back and mimick Floyd's excuse, then I would just say, we disagree on Floyd's excuse .... but you are way into left field on this one!
Manny at 142 fought guys at 147. After fighting top 147 fights, beating them, getting titles, defending titles, becoming #1 P4P, being the top 147 fighter, NO Manny isn't obligated to do anything but YES it's a duck if we have proof that he intentionally doesn't want to fight the riskier fights at 147! It doesn't matter who you are.
You can say what you want ...... but what Floyd has proved is that Floyd will go to 154 and can beat a 154 but will only fight there if the risks are at a minimum.
BTW, when you talk about what Floyd did to Canelo at 154, you are pretty much agreeing with my point that Floyd can fight at 154. You make it sound like Floyd is a BEAST at 154. Everyone already knows this (Floyd is a top 154 fighter) but just pointing it out to MurkMan, who just can't get it.
Here is what I said about Bradley:
No Murkman you are wrong. Bradley would not get a fight with Manny unless he re-signed with TR. You didn't believe me, I showed you proof. You still not getting FACTS, FACTS and MORE FACTS!!!
Oh, I see you are changing it to beating Manny is not better than fighting Lucas, Garcia, ... When I brought it up you said that is not what you meant but now it is. Make up your mind! :lol1: .... I'm pretty sure you said differently in your previous posts but that is MurkMan for you.
I can only say something so many ways but you are NOT getting it. It's funny and sad at the same time. :sad::rofl:
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I dont care about what You thought about Canelo, or what most analyst thought about Canelo. You posted a whole paragraph about what YOU thought and what OTHER people thought. As if you were using that to make me discredit the performance.
Now name a fighter in history that can fight the GREEN Canelo and walk him down without getting grazed. For some reason you talk around it, or under it. Seems to me like answering this question honestly would kill whatever your trying to say.
You typed a WHOLE lot about Martinez who I BARELY spoke on in my comment. All this stuff about the excuses Floyd made to avoid him. They werent excuses because Floyd aint obligated to fight him. You said I "basically admitted that Floyd is a beast at 154" No, I BLATANTLY said they he is the best of all time, and that he was too strong for 47. But at the end of the day, he's not a 54lber and that wont change. Any fight at that weight is a bonus fight not a duck. And Canelo was a GREAT risk. He was 164lbs and Floyd STILL walked him down.
You typed a bunch about Manny's weight, I dont care about that. Its another tangent.
You didnt show proof that Bradley wouldnt get the manny fight. You showed a link of Bradley SAYING he wouldnt get the fight. Now back to the stuff you ignored;
Arum WOULD have made the fight because its the only fight their for Manny. Its the same as Ghost and Floyd's situation. Golden Boy had him sign an extension before fighting Floyd so he thought that if he didnt sign it he wouldnt get the fight. But he didnt have to sign it because Floyd had no one else to fight.
Its the same with Pac, Bradley did NOT have to resign. He had one more fight left with Top Rank, and Manny had no one else to fight except Bradley. They had a controversial fight that called for a rematch to happen at some point. Bradley already knew he didnt have to sign the contract and he knew he would get the fight anyways.
He only resigned because he is either stupid, or because he wanted to cherrypick Rios, and Mike Alvarado and avoid the top fighters at golden boy. He even lied and said he did it to feed his family, when he is already rich, and fightig the 10-20 fighters at golden boy would equate to enough money to compare to one big pay check against Pac, and the other bums
I said that all the fights at ww would basically be promised to Bradley(excluding Floyd). For some reason you flipped it around to me saying, "A fight with Floyd would be promised" You spoke about GB promising Khan a fight with Floyd and used that as an example. You also talked about Floyd saying Pac is next, then contradictng himself. You used that as an example. None of that was relevant to anything I said. So why did you even say that? I feel it was a cheap troll tactic. Im gonna need you to respond to this and tell me why ya did it my dawg.
I asked you what fight was worth seeing more; Bradley vs Rios and Mike Alvarado, or Bradley vs the 10- 20 fighters at GB. For some reason you keep duckin and dodging this one. I need you to address this one broskie.
I made a comment about how Bradley was inactive because TR didnt have any credible opponents for him to face. So they cherrypicked a NO name with power, who didnt DESERVE to face Bradley, and almost BEAT Bradley. I stated how if Bradley was to lose, it would be DEVASTATING to him. Losing to a cherrypick with power. I need you to respond to stop duckin and dodgin.
You say him beating Manny would be a great achievement but he feels he already BEAT him. Not only that but Pac is an old fighter coming off of bad fights. No, beating Pac is NOT better than him beating Garcia, Lucas, Thurman, Ghost etc. Because without that handful of fighters, who OWN his division, his whole resume is GREATLY empty. The only credible ww on his entire resume is Pac and JMM. None of the real ww's are on it. I need you to respond to this as well
And how many times has juiceman challenged himself fighting at 54? Oh, none. Haha. And Floyd did contradict himself on the cw, no defending him there. Just like manny contradicting himself on accepting Floyd demands and the fight. Haha
Thanks for proving my point without you even realizing it. Manny never fought someone at the 154 limit. He even said that he wasn't going to go past 147 again because it's too much for him. So you can't duck in a division that you clearly said you don't plan on going there no more.
Floyd on the other-hand has fought at 154 for 3 times now. Anyone can see the difference, even you ..... at least that is what I thought! :lol1:
You didnt show proof of anything. All you did was post links about what you perceived to be them ducking Martinez, when it wasnt a duck at all because he's not obligated to fight him.
Then you post links about what THIS person feels about Canelo being green, or THAT person FEELS about Canelo being green. Other people's opinion.
You posted links about Bradley saying he wouldnt get Manny unless he resigned, when its his fault for falling for it not realizing that they was going to fight him whether he extended his contract or not.
But on this comment you basically ignored EVERYthing I said in my last one. So I have more to copy and paste this time.
Welpz here ya go;
Arum WOULD have made the fight because its the only fight their for Manny. Its the same as Ghost and Floyd's situation. Golden Boy had him sign an extension before fighting Floyd so he thought that if he didnt sign it he wouldnt get the fight. But he didnt have to sign it because Floyd had no one else to fight.
Its the same with Pac, Bradley did NOT have to resign. He had one more fight left with Top Rank, and Manny had no one else to fight except Bradley. They had a controversial fight that called for a rematch to happen at some point. Bradley already knew he didnt have to sign the contract and he knew he would get the fight anyways.
He only resigned because he is either stupid, or because he wanted to cherrypick Rios, and Mike Alvarado and avoid the top fighters at golden boy. He even lied and said he did it to feed his family, when he is already rich, and fightig the 10-20 fighters at golden boy would equate to enough money to compare to one big pay check against Pac, and the other bums.
As for as Floyd walking down Canelo, he came forward from the opening bell and had ZERO respect for Canelo's power. Floyd doesnt have any respect for ANY of his opponents power. He has severe confidence in his defense. He dont care about getting hit at all, he comes right back at you when you land.
And then he went and PUNISHED Anguelo. Yea Canelo can fight cant he? I just noticed how long your response is, and the WHOLE comment is about Canelo. A person I RARELY talked about in my response. I will ignore that portion
Back to the things you have ignored for the 3rd time;
Name a fighter in HISTORY that can fight a GREEN Canelo and walk him down without being grazed.
Since him being green is the reason that Floyd humiliated him.
I said that all the fights at ww would basically be promised to Bradley(excluding Floyd). For some reason you flipped it around to me saying, "A fight with Floyd would be promised" You spoke about GB promising Khan a fight with Floyd and used that as an example. You also talked about Floyd saying Pac is next, then contradictng himself. You used that as an example. None of that was relevant to anything I said. So why did you even say that? I feel it was a cheap troll tactic. Im gonna need you to respond to this and tell me why ya did it my dawg.
I asked you what fight was worth seeing more; Bradley vs Rios and Mike Alvarado, or Bradley vs the 10- 20 fighters at GB. For some reason you keep duckin and dodging this one. I need you to address this one broskie.
I made a comment about how Bradley was inactive because TR didnt have any credible opponents for him to face. So they cherrypicked a NO name with power, who didnt DESERVE to face Bradley, and almost BEAT Bradley. I stated how if Bradley was to lose, it would be DEVASTATING to him. Losing to a cherrypick with power. I need you to respond to stop duckin and dodgin.
You say him beating Manny would be a great achievement but he feels he already BEAT him. Not only that but Pac is an old fighter coming off of bad fights. No, beating Pac is NOT better than him beating Garcia, Lucas, Thurman, Ghost etc. Because without that handful of fighters, who OWN his division, his whole resume is GREATLY empty. The only credible ww on his entire resume is Pac and JMM. None of the real ww's are on it. I need you to respond to this as well
" post links about what THIS person feels about Canelo" - MurkMan
"Floyd didn't duck Martinez when he was called out" - MurkMan
"Bradley is ducking Khan, Garcia, Lucas and instead fighting Manny Pacquiao" - Murkman
Here is what I said about Canelo:
Buddy, what are you talking about?
Many analysts were saying this, Showtime brought it up, Floyd and company too.
So MurkMan is right and they got it wrong? I can understand before the fight some people bought into the hype but after watching the fight, even you MurkMan should have realized this .... but like I said, you just don't get it.
So fighting Angulo at 155 is the same as fighting Floyd at 152? Thanks MurkMan for the laugh! Style, level of fighter and weight made the difference.
Canelo needed more fights against quality opponents, fix his weaknesses and then we can judge his chance. That version was relatively green and didn't know what he was getting into. You don't try to outbox Floyd unless you have the qualities and advantage in that area to do so.
Here is what I said about Martinez:
Floyd fought at 154, before, during and after being called out by Martinez.
Martinez was considered a 154lb who just moved up to get money fights.
Proof from Floyd's camp that they were using as excuse not to fight Martinez, money wasn't going to generate $100 million for Floyd. Yet, Floyd fight's other fights for less and some of his opponents are relatively unknown. So to me that is a terrible excuse. Like he has been doing, when his opponent doesn't help attract PPV buys, get a good undercard. Did Floyd say no to a Guerrero fight because he will not do $100 million?
"Who is Guerrero? Who has he beat? I'm no Berto" - Floyd Mayweather
Floyd's team also said that he would go to 160 for the right money and also said that "skills pay the bills not size". So even though I proved above that it was a bad excuse due to Floyd's history, if you would at least come back and mimick Floyd's excuse, then I would just say, we disagree on Floyd's excuse .... but you are way into left field on this one!
Manny at 142 fought guys at 147. After fighting top 147 fights, beating them, getting titles, defending titles, becoming #1 P4P, being the top 147 fighter, NO Manny isn't obligated to do anything but YES it's a duck if we have proof that he intentionally doesn't want to fight the riskier fights at 147! It doesn't matter who you are.
You can say what you want ...... but what Floyd has proved is that Floyd will go to 154 and can beat a 154 but will only fight there if the risks are at a minimum.
BTW, when you talk about what Floyd did to Canelo at 154, you are pretty much agreeing with my point that Floyd can fight at 154. You make it sound like Floyd is a BEAST at 154. Everyone already knows this (Floyd is a top 154 fighter) but just pointing it out to MurkMan, who just can't get it.
Here is what I said about Bradley:
No Murkman you are wrong. Bradley would not get a fight with Manny unless he re-signed with TR. You didn't believe me, I showed you proof. You still not getting FACTS, FACTS and MORE FACTS!!!
Oh, I see you are changing it to beating Manny is not better than fighting Lucas, Garcia, ... When I brought it up you said that is not what you meant but now it is. Make up your mind! :lol1: .... I'm pretty sure you said differently in your previous posts but that is MurkMan for you.
I can only say something so many ways but you are NOT getting it. It's funny and sad at the same time. :sad::rofl:
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Ya floyd wont be doing that until maybe the 8th round when maidana is gassed
Floyd stepped to Canelo in the very first round and had zero respect for his power. He opened up in the 3rd round, and went fullblown flatfooted in the 4th round. By the eighth round, he is basically walking him down doing everything he did in the 4th, but by that time he has an injured hand, been punched to the thigh, lowblowed, punched in the elbow. The difference is that Marcos is not even half the size of Canelo. Marcos has ZERO power for Floyd. He is a small, slow, squared up little fighter. And he wont be HALF as durable as Canelo. Floyd buckled Canelo with a stiff jab in the fourth when he was walking him down. Imagine how weak Marcos is going to be.
I bet you he won't. Jab jab jab right hand, that's what will happen on May 3rd
Ya floyd wont be doing that until maybe the 8th round when maidana is gassed
I showed you proof that you are wrong yet you are still going at it. Sad stuff!
Proof on Bradley, Canelo, Floyd, Martinez ....
Let's face it. You will never get it buddy!
You didnt show proof of anything. All you did was post links about what you perceived to be them ducking Martinez, when it wasnt a duck at all because he's not obligated to fight him.
Then you post links about what THIS person feels about Canelo being green, or THAT person FEELS about Canelo being green. Other people's opinion.
You posted links about Bradley saying he wouldnt get Manny unless he resigned, when its his fault for falling for it not realizing that they was going to fight him whether he extended his contract or not.
But on this comment you basically ignored EVERYthing I said in my last one. So I have more to copy and paste this time.
Welpz here ya go;
Arum WOULD have made the fight because its the only fight their for Manny. Its the same as Ghost and Floyd's situation. Golden Boy had him sign an extension before fighting Floyd so he thought that if he didnt sign it he wouldnt get the fight. But he didnt have to sign it because Floyd had no one else to fight.
Its the same with Pac, Bradley did NOT have to resign. He had one more fight left with Top Rank, and Manny had no one else to fight except Bradley. They had a controversial fight that called for a rematch to happen at some point. Bradley already knew he didnt have to sign the contract and he knew he would get the fight anyways.
He only resigned because he is either stupid, or because he wanted to cherrypick Rios, and Mike Alvarado and avoid the top fighters at golden boy. He even lied and said he did it to feed his family, when he is already rich, and fightig the 10-20 fighters at golden boy would equate to enough money to compare to one big pay check against Pac, and the other bums.
As for as Floyd walking down Canelo, he came forward from the opening bell and had ZERO respect for Canelo's power. Floyd doesnt have any respect for ANY of his opponents power. He has severe confidence in his defense. He dont care about getting hit at all, he comes right back at you when you land.
And then he went and PUNISHED Anguelo. Yea Canelo can fight cant he? I just noticed how long your response is, and the WHOLE comment is about Canelo. A person I RARELY talked about in my response. I will ignore that portion
Back to the things you have ignored for the 3rd time;
Name a fighter in HISTORY that can fight a GREEN Canelo and walk him down without being grazed.
Since him being green is the reason that Floyd humiliated him.
I said that all the fights at ww would basically be promised to Bradley(excluding Floyd). For some reason you flipped it around to me saying, "A fight with Floyd would be promised" You spoke about GB promising Khan a fight with Floyd and used that as an example. You also talked about Floyd saying Pac is next, then contradictng himself. You used that as an example. None of that was relevant to anything I said. So why did you even say that? I feel it was a cheap troll tactic. Im gonna need you to respond to this and tell me why ya did it my dawg.
I asked you what fight was worth seeing more; Bradley vs Rios and Mike Alvarado, or Bradley vs the 10- 20 fighters at GB. For some reason you keep duckin and dodging this one. I need you to address this one broskie.
I made a comment about how Bradley was inactive because TR didnt have any credible opponents for him to face. So they cherrypicked a NO name with power, who didnt DESERVE to face Bradley, and almost BEAT Bradley. I stated how if Bradley was to lose, it would be DEVASTATING to him. Losing to a cherrypick with power. I need you to respond to stop duckin and dodgin.
You say him beating Manny would be a great achievement but he feels he already BEAT him. Not only that but Pac is an old fighter coming off of bad fights. No, beating Pac is NOT better than him beating Garcia, Lucas, Thurman, Ghost etc. Because without that handful of fighters, who OWN his division, his whole resume is GREATLY empty. The only credible ww on his entire resume is Pac and JMM. None of the real ww's are on it. I need you to respond to this as well
Arum WOULD have made the fight because its the only fight their for Manny. Its the same as Ghost and Floyd's situation. Golden Boy had him sign an extension before fighting Floyd so he thought that if he didnt sign it he wouldnt get the fight. But he didnt have to sign it because Floyd had no one else to fight.
Its the same with Pac, Bradley did NOT have to resign. He had one more fight left with Top Rank, and Manny had no one else to fight except Bradley. They had a controversial fight that called for a rematch to happen at some point. Bradley already knew he didnt have to sign the contract and he knew he would get the fight anyways.
He only resigned because he is either stupid, or because he wanted to cherrypick Rios, and Mike Alvarado and avoid the top fighters at golden boy. He even lied and said he did it to feed his family, when he is already rich, and fightig the 10-20 fighters at golden boy would equate to enough money to compare to one big pay check against Pac, and the other bums.
As for as Floyd walking down Canelo, he came forward from the opening bell and had ZERO respect for Canelo's power. Floyd doesnt have any respect for ANY of his opponents power. He has severe confidence in his defense. He dont care about getting hit at all, he comes right back at you when you land.
And then he went and PUNISHED Anguelo. Yea Canelo can fight cant he? I just noticed how long your response is, and the WHOLE comment is about Canelo. A person I RARELY talked about in my response. I will ignore that portion
Back to the things you have ignored for the 3rd time;
Name a fighter in HISTORY that can fight a GREEN Canelo and walk him down without being grazed.
Since him being green is the reason that Floyd humiliated him.
I said that all the fights at ww would basically be promised to Bradley(excluding Floyd). For some reason you flipped it around to me saying, "A fight with Floyd would be promised" You spoke about GB promising Khan a fight with Floyd and used that as an example. You also talked about Floyd saying Pac is next, then contradictng himself. You used that as an example. None of that was relevant to anything I said. So why did you even say that? I feel it was a cheap troll tactic. Im gonna need you to respond to this and tell me why ya did it my dawg.
I asked you what fight was worth seeing more; Bradley vs Rios and Mike Alvarado, or Bradley vs the 10- 20 fighters at GB. For some reason you keep duckin and dodging this one. I need you to address this one broskie.
I made a comment about how Bradley was inactive because TR didnt have any credible opponents for him to face. So they cherrypicked a NO name with power, who didnt DESERVE to face Bradley, and almost BEAT Bradley. I stated how if Bradley was to lose, it would be DEVASTATING to him. Losing to a cherrypick with power. I need you to respond to stop duckin and dodgin.
You say him beating Manny would be a great achievement but he feels he already BEAT him. Not only that but Pac is an old fighter coming off of bad fights. No, beating Pac is NOT better than him beating Garcia, Lucas, Thurman, Ghost etc. Because without that handful of fighters, who OWN his division, his whole resume is GREATLY empty. The only credible ww on his entire resume is Pac and JMM. None of the real ww's are on it. I need you to respond to this as well
And the next time you post a whole book talking about NOTHING, Im just gonna ignore that trash. Then keep copying and pasting. You did it last time when you keep changing the subject and dragging on and on about nothing.
I showed you proof that you are wrong yet you are still going at it. Sad stuff!
Proof on Bradley, Canelo, Floyd, Martinez ....
Let's face it. You will never get it buddy!
Mayweather looks good sparring?? He probably picks his sparring partners the same way he picks his opponents. Someone to look good against.
The best in the world comes to his gym
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrEGRIWo8tU
Here is a Super Middleweight talking about sparring Floyd and what he thinks the fight is going to look like. He said don't even bother getting physical with Floyd since that's not going to work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GpqdoU18UA
As a bonus to that. Shane Mosley telling Canelo and his people that he isn't simply going to be able to walk Floyd down. Simply, because it's not going to happen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIxqHJZnVT8#t=12
One of the most interesting things Uncle Roger has ever said about Floyd in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwd1pCMqK9M
Daquan Arnett saying that Floyd is nearly impossible to figure out in sparring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrEGRIWo8tU
Junior Middleweigh Bastie Samir says that is looks so easy on the outside but once you are in the ring with him, it isn't easy.
Errol Spence and others. Floyd brings who he needs into camp.
Sorry but you ignored the truth. Fighting Manny NOW means a bigger deal than fighting those guys you mentioned except for Floyd. Add the fact that your statement is so so wrong. Arum would NOT let Bradley take on Manny without re-signing!
So now you get it? Geeez!!!!
"It s now been confirmed that WBO welterweight champion Tim Bradley had to extend his contract with Top Rank in order to get the rematch with Manny Pacquiao on April 12th, according to Dan Rafael of ESPN. "
http://www.boxing news24.com/2014/01/bradley-extends-contract-with-top-rank-to-get-pacquiao-rematch/
Floyd walking Canelo down. Floyd didn't start out the fight doing any of that. Canelo thought that he can outbox Floyd. Mistake number 1. Then he tried a bit to get at Floyd but couldn't cut off the ring well. Unfortunately, Canelo fights relatively flat-footed and could not get proper positioning to do that against the better defensive moves that Floyd has. You brought up Angulo. :lol1: Angulo was always in Canelo's punching range. So why even bring that up? Terrible example. After reviewing your previous posts, I'm presuming it's because you just don't get it!!!
Floyd walking down Canelo: While it was close but easy fight for Floyd, Floyd didn't do that much more than Canelo. He just did enough each round to win the fight. yes, there were a few rounds in the second half of the fight where Floyd put a bit of pressure but if you check out Floyd's positioning, he is always in defensive mode. Not committing fully to his punches because that would leave himself open. On the other coin of this, commentators were telling you what was happening. Canelo was setting up a trap to hopefully get Floyd within distance and counter with a huge shot. Why? because he was having little success in getting to Floyd in the previous rounds.
Canelo needed more time before taking on someone like Floyd. Would he have improved enough if he waited another year or two? Only time would tell but one thing I stated way before the fight was that canelo was not ready to step up from fighting either older fighters or other questionable opponents. Canelo was going into the fight with the wrong plan (ie.trying to outbox Floyd) and needed to fix his weaknesses beforehand. I knew this and Floyd's camp obviously knew it and pointed it out. Only MurkMan can't get all this!!! I also provided links on this to you. You still can't get it. Instead you come back and bring up Angulo? :lol1: Time to throw in the towel buddy.
Not sure if you understood all that? Was it too much for you?
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Arum WOULD have made the fight because its the only fight their for Manny. Its the same as Ghost and Floyd's situation. Golden Boy had him sign an extension before fighting Floyd so he thought that if he didnt sign it he wouldnt get the fight. But he didnt have to sign it because Floyd had no one else to fight.
Its the same with Pac, Bradley did NOT have to resign. He had one more fight left with Top Rank, and Manny had no one else to fight except Bradley. They had a controversial fight that called for a rematch to happen at some point. Bradley already knew he didnt have to sign the contract and he knew he would get the fight anyways.
He only resigned because he is either stupid, or because he wanted to cherrypick Rios, and Mike Alvarado and avoid the top fighters at golden boy. He even lied and said he did it to feed his family, when he is already rich, and fightig the 10-20 fighters at golden boy would equate to enough money to compare to one big pay check against Pac, and the other bums.
As for as Floyd walking down Canelo, he came forward from the opening bell and had ZERO respect for Canelo's power. Floyd doesnt have any respect for ANY of his opponents power. He has severe confidence in his defense. He dont care about getting hit at all, he comes right back at you when you land.
And then he went and PUNISHED Anguelo. Yea Canelo can fight cant he? I just noticed how long your response is, and the WHOLE comment is about Canelo. A person I RARELY talked about in my response. I will ignore that portion
Back to the things you have ignored for the 3rd time;
Name a fighter in HISTORY that can fight a GREEN Canelo and walk him down without being grazed.
Since him being green is the reason that Floyd humiliated him.
I said that all the fights at ww would basically be promised to Bradley(excluding Floyd). For some reason you flipped it around to me saying, "A fight with Floyd would be promised" You spoke about GB promising Khan a fight with Floyd and used that as an example. You also talked about Floyd saying Pac is next, then contradictng himself. You used that as an example. None of that was relevant to anything I said. So why did you even say that? I feel it was a cheap troll tactic. Im gonna need you to respond to this and tell me why ya did it my dawg.
I asked you what fight was worth seeing more; Bradley vs Rios and Mike Alvarado, or Bradley vs the 10- 20 fighters at GB. For some reason you keep duckin and dodging this one. I need you to address this one broskie.
I made a comment about how Bradley was inactive because TR didnt have any credible opponents for him to face. So they cherrypicked a NO name with power, who didnt DESERVE to face Bradley, and almost BEAT Bradley. I stated how if Bradley was to lose, it would be DEVASTATING to him. Losing to a cherrypick with power. I need you to respond to stop duckin and dodgin.
You say him beating Manny would be a great achievement but he feels he already BEAT him. Not only that but Pac is an old fighter coming off of bad fights. No, beating Pac is NOT better than him beating Garcia, Lucas, Thurman, Ghost etc. Because without that handful of fighters, who OWN his division, his whole resume is GREATLY empty. The only credible ww on his entire resume is Pac and JMM. None of the real ww's are on it. I need you to respond to this as well
And the next time you post a whole book talking about NOTHING, Im just gonna ignore that trash. Then keep copying and pasting. You did it last time when you keep changing the subject and dragging on and on about nothing.
I'm pretty sure you were one saying Floyd would duck canelo. Don't make me go post hunting.
Juiceman had numerous chances to make the fight happen but chose not to. F*ck him and you tards. That fact will burn his and you tards souls for eternity. Haha
Please go back and check. When you come back, please post your results. The only comment that I did have was that I laughed at all you guys when the weight thingy came up. Excuses because you guys were concerned that the fight would not happen and the CW. This point is laughable since Floyd was fighting for the 3rd freaking time at 154 and held a title and Canelo had a title.
You know:
"Floyd is not big"
"CWs are now good"
"It's not fair because Canelo balloons up after the weigh-in"
BUT TO BE CLEAR:
All you will find is posts of me saying that Canelo is not ready for Floyd. Yes, before they even signed!
You blatantly ignored it all once again. You typed a whole paragraph about how big a fight between him and Manny would be. Had nothing to do with anything I said. I will ignore that portion
As I have already stated, Bradley and Pac was already going to happen. It was the last fight on hs contract. Why did he resign with them?
Because he would rather fight Rios, Alvarado, Prov, over fighting the hottest fighters in the ww division who are at Golden Boy. In your comment I dont even think you said Rios name once. You didnt say Rios, Prov, Garcia, Broner etc. All these fighters he ducked just so he can have easy fights with bums at TR.
I HAVE debated with you before. Your that guy who goes into tangents and switches the subject to avoid admitting that you are wrong.
You typed a whole paragraph about Canelo being flatfooted, stationary, and how YOU felt that he was green blah, blah, blah. Yet he fights like a veteran, and just beat the snot out of a much bigger man. Now name a fighter in HISTORY that can fight a GREEN Canelo and walk him down without being grazed.
Since him being green is the reason that Floyd humiliated him.
You typed a whole bunch of statements from Floyd's camp. If you say it comes from his camp, I believe you. But it has nothing to do with what I feel. Again, name a fighter that can fight him at a cw, and do what Floyd did. Not beat him, not stop him, not KO him, but dominate him without being hissed.
Now back to the stuff you ignored;
I said that all the fights at ww would basically be promised to Bradley(excluding Floyd). For some reason you flipped it around to me saying, "A fight with Floyd would be promised" You spoke about GB promising Khan a fight with Floyd and used that as an example. You also talked about Floyd saying Pac is next, then contradictng himself. You used that as an example. None of that was relevant to anything I said. So why did you even say that? I feel it was a cheap troll tactic. Im gonna need you to respond to this and tell me why ya did it my lil dawg
I asked you what fight was worth seeing more; Bradley vs Rios and Mike Alvarado, or Bradley vs the 10- 20 fighters at GB. For some reason you keep duckin and dodging this one. I need you to address this one lil homie.
I made a comment about how Bradley was inactive because TR didnt have any credible opponents for him to face. So they cherrypicked a NO name with power, who didnt DESERVE to face Bradley, and almost BEAT Bradley. I stated how if Bradley was to lose, it would be DEVASTATING to him. Losing to a cherrypick with power. I need you to respond to this my dawg.
You say him beating Manny would be a great achievement but he feels he already BEAT him. Not only that but Pac is an old fighter coming off of bad fights. No, beating Pac is NOT better than him beating Garcia, Lucas, Thurman, Ghost etc. Because without that handful of fighters, who OWN his division, his whole resume is GREATLY empty. The only credible ww on his entire resume is Pac and JMM. None of the real ww's are on it. I need you to respond to this as well.
And you ARE that guy who I dealt with before. Keep going into tangents to avoid admitting your wrong, and typing a bunch of nothingness to distract others from the topic at hands. Im just going to keep copying and pasting everything you ignore. I can do this forever if this is what you plan to do. Im just glad I figured it out.
Sorry but you ignored the truth. Fighting Manny NOW means a bigger deal than fighting those guys you mentioned except for Floyd. Add the fact that your statement is so so wrong. Arum would NOT let Bradley take on Manny without re-signing!
So now you get it? Geeez!!!!
"It s now been confirmed that WBO welterweight champion Tim Bradley had to extend his contract with Top Rank in order to get the rematch with Manny Pacquiao on April 12th, according to Dan Rafael of ESPN. "
http://www.boxing news24.com/2014/01/bradley-extends-contract-with-top-rank-to-get-pacquiao-rematch/
Floyd walking Canelo down. Floyd didn't start out the fight doing any of that. Canelo thought that he can outbox Floyd. Mistake number 1. Then he tried a bit to get at Floyd but couldn't cut off the ring well. Unfortunately, Canelo fights relatively flat-footed and could not get proper positioning to do that against the better defensive moves that Floyd has. You brought up Angulo. :lol1: Angulo was always in Canelo's punching range. So why even bring that up? Terrible example. After reviewing your previous posts, I'm presuming it's because you just don't get it!!!
Floyd walking down Canelo: While it was close but easy fight for Floyd, Floyd didn't do that much more than Canelo. He just did enough each round to win the fight. yes, there were a few rounds in the second half of the fight where Floyd put a bit of pressure but if you check out Floyd's positioning, he is always in defensive mode. Not committing fully to his punches because that would leave himself open. On the other coin of this, commentators were telling you what was happening. Canelo was setting up a trap to hopefully get Floyd within distance and counter with a huge shot. Why? because he was having little success in getting to Floyd in the previous rounds.
Canelo needed more time before taking on someone like Floyd. Would he have improved enough if he waited another year or two? Only time would tell but one thing I stated way before the fight was that canelo was not ready to step up from fighting either older fighters or other questionable opponents. Canelo was going into the fight with the wrong plan (ie.trying to outbox Floyd) and needed to fix his weaknesses beforehand. I knew this and Floyd's camp obviously knew it and pointed it out. Only MurkMan can't get all this!!! I also provided links on this to you. You still can't get it. Instead you come back and bring up Angulo? :lol1: Time to throw in the towel buddy.
Not sure if you understood all that? Was it too much for you?
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Mayweather looks good sparring?? He probably picks his sparring partners the same way he picks his opponents. Someone to look good against.
Name a fighter in history that can face his opponents and not beat them, not stop them, but change their whole styles and dominate them without being grazed. Because last time I checked, this was the most skilled fighter in history. SRL couldnt even avoid all the punches of his sparring partners. No fighter could