HBO Vs SHOtime Who's Winning?

Since I got both in january 2012 (strictly for boxing), I can say Shotime has given me more quality. I have gotten to see more fights, more new fighters, and constant 3-4 fight cards as opposed to HBO that giving 1-2 fight cards. I have found more new up and coming fighters through Shotime than I have HBO.

The people who are subscribing to HBO are not doing so entirely because of their boxing programming. It's because of their overall quality and better programming, why HBO draws much higher ratings than their closet rival; Which are mostly viewed by casual fans. However, just from a boxing fan point of view, there's no doubt that Showtime delivers the overall better quality and better bouts as opposed to HBO. When it comes straight down to their boxing programming, they offer the better cards and match ups. They are all highly entertaining with hardly any mismatches as opposed to their counterpart HBO; Who seems more intent on building future stars of boxing and showcasing their favorite fighters rather than televising good fights.

The argument that HBO has more total subs is why they have more ratings...isnt exactly how to compare the two. More subs doesnt necessarily mean there are more boxing viewers. Its a factor but not the final indicator. Its being used as an excuse by showtime "fans" The only real way to see who is "winning"--which is really really gay to talk about--is to look at the %change in ratings over time. If HBO's ratings are down in the last 1-2 years and SHO is up, then you can say SHO is "winning." In the end this debate is lame.

The people who are subscribing to HBO are not doing so entirely because of their boxing programming. It's because of their overall quality and better programming, why HBO draws much higher ratings than their closet rival; Which are mostly viewed by casual fans. However, just from a boxing fan point of view, there's no doubt that Showtime delivers the overall better quality and better bouts as opposed to HBO. When it comes straight down to their boxing programming, they offer the better cards and match ups. They are all highly entertaining with hardly any mismatches as opposed to their counterpart HBO; Who seems more intent, into making future stars of the sport and showcasing their favorite fighters rather than televising good fights.

The people who are subscribing to HBO are not doing so entirely because of their boxing programming. It's because of their overall quality and better programming, why HBO draws much higher ratings than their closet rival; Which are mostly viewed by casual fans. However, just from a boxing fan point of view, there's no doubt that Showtime delivers the overall better quality and better bouts as opposed to HBO. When it comes straight down to their boxing programming, they offer the better cards and match ups. They are all highly entertaining with hardly any mismatches as opposed to their counterpart HBO; Who seems more intent, into making future stars of the sport and showcasing their favorite fighters rather than televising good fights.

HBO has many more subscribers and is the big players in the boxing game. It's the reason that when GB decided to go with Showtime, it was regarded as a bad decision. For me Showtime has been on the come up, and HBO is losing ground if they don't start making some better fights. Losing Stevenson really hurt the big fight vs Kovalev. I just wish they would all do business with each other like in the old days so we the fan could see the best fights.

SHO kicking ass....HBO sucks ass!!....that's how I see it

It's not only about ratings. Most important is the frequency of fights. HBO is winning on ratings. They're also winning in being able to produce more non-PPV fights for their subscribers, despite the fact that Schaefer/Haymon took all their fighters with them. These huge Mayweather PPV parties have a way of screwing up the record. And what do you expect? You give the same amount of gargantuan spending to Fox Sports they'll do even bigger PPV parties and make handsome profit. Showtime is getting crumbs from these expensive Mayweather parties.

Showtime By Far

Well the problem with this question is it depends on what u are asking. HBO will have vetter ratings than Showtime for the near future but that has little to do with boxing. If we are talking purely boxing, Showtime has made tremendous strides and they are no longer the underdog they used to be. As far as their talent pool they have one up on HBO. Ratings wise HBO is abd will continue to be the premium subscription network king.

HBO,better ratings..Not to mention back to back FOTY honors..

Despite the fact that they have this so-called "stacked stable," Showtime only managed to produce a few fights since the Mayweather/Canelo fight. They weren't able to answer HBO's weekly fights at the end of last year. Even now most of Schaefer/Haymon fighters have been inactive. When was the last time you saw these guys fight? Guerrero, Khan, Matthysse, Berto, and many others. They have almost 90 fighters in their stable, yet you hardly see them fight, or still don't have any schedule set for them. Just shows that they're not really profiting from these expensive Mayweather fights. So people need to stop this "Showtime is winning" BS. If you are a subscriber, you'll feel the extreme rarity of fights.

HBO thus far. Showtime should get better as the year goes on.

Only thing that matters is ratings. That's it. Showtime has made dramatic strides to be a real player in the sport -- as opposed to the utter joke they used to be, but at the end of the day the bottom line is still ratings. And fact: HBO is still beating them in that department definitively. Now whether or not you want to argue that HBO is leading purely because they have a f**k load of more overall subscribers -- is another thing entirely. But yeah. Ratings. Look em' up. HBO is winning. Showtime is losing. Simple.

This **** is sad. 5 years ago if someone would have told me that there would be HBO and Showtime stans I would've laughed my dick off. Now I can only shed a tear for what the sport has deteriorated to. There has to be a victor for some people even outside the ring, so they can gloat, "See, I told you. My hero is right in his choice of network/promoter/manager."

HBO still has the top fighters fighting the top challenges. Showtime attracts a few stars that want easy fights. And I am not saying this because it is why Mayweather went over. Exactly, and this latest Stevenson/Kovalev issue is proof of HBO's more fan friendly intent. They wanted to give the fans the fight they wanted and, in fact, were insisting on it. Stevenson decided to be weak and take the easy road, which Showtime is happy to offer.

HBO still has the top fighters fighting the top challenges. Showtime attracts a few stars that want easy fights. And I am not saying this because it is why Mayweather went over.

I like HBO's production and commentary more, and I feel they have a much more honest approach to analyzing the fighters, the refs, and the judges, and I appreciate that. Let's face it, a big part of the appeal to fights is the coverage, and HBO simply has the edge there. Not only that, but they seem to have more exciting and intriguing fights.

Showtime has giving us amazing fights like zab vs paulie, trout vs Lara, bhop vs ratty dude. Showtime is owned by haymon, they'll have years of garbage in store for us. They gave a million to tarvar for his last fight. A god damn million $! There is no way this is going good for them, there give you 3 fights in one night and 2 of them are guaranteed to be complete crap. No freaking way

This **** is sad. 5 years ago if someone would have told me that there would be HBO and Showtime stans I would've laughed my dick off. Now I can only shed a tear for what the sport has deteriorated to.