Not close to the reality we live in but I just handed you loads of examples of fighters coming off losses who still fought good opposition in their next fight?
A top 30 welterweight....,or even a welterweight...or a guy with any sort of decent professional pedigree isn't beyond the realms of plausibility here. I'm not asking Broner to square off against Matthyssee, but an opponent with name value, and pedigree fit for televised PPV boxing isn't too much to ask is it?
PPV is supposed to be a marquee event. Broner v Molina would struggle to draw viewers on Friday Night Fights.
I didn't think either of those guys stood a chance either, and those guys were headlining in comeback fight which isn't the same situation is it? Broner is on an undercard.
I don't care which soft touch Broner is in with, it doesn't matter if the guy has a name or record Broner will be put in a spot where he will be meant to look good, so you can either live with that fact or be worried he didn't find the perfect soft touch (which I find this an odd debate you want him to fight someone who is not much better but will get him more hype?).
Broner is not even on the marquee he is not even in the co-feature, but OK you want this fight not on PPV you know where it ends up on Showtime taking their actual budget as a main event, do you like that outcome better~
I don't think you can be mad hes fight a showcase fight after a big humiliating loss. He might even look horrible in this fight, which i doubt but still besides Demarco every time Broner stepped up he looked bad.
It's a featured fight on a PPV. So you'd expect at least someone with decent perigee at the weight, even if they aren't a big threat ala Senchenko.
This fight is a mockery to the paying fans, so Broner beats Carlos Molina inside a few rounds and what? Broner's back to his best? Who do they think they're fooling. He doesn't need to be in with a world beater, but a decent name and someone who has a remote chance of winning would do. Not a no hoper. Do you pay to watch a boxer or do you pay to watch competitive bouts? Again, this is supposed to be a featured fight on PPV.
Like I've said before, fans need to make adjustments when watching boxing. Nowadays it's geared towards watching mere exhibition fights focusing on seeing named boxers look good. It's not about seeing competitive matchups anymore. It's about seeing stars shine. So curiosity now lies in which round the opponent is going to get stopped or in what manner. It's no longer about who will win.
I could give two ****s about Broner but he is coming off a humiliating devastating loss, if you expect him to be fighting someone even close to top end then that is totally your issue with not even being close to the reality which we live in.
You can want a lot of things, but wants are unlimited and meaningless. I really don't care if you don't like the fight or even the idea behind it but what exactly were you expecting that makes this some huge disappointment~
Not close to the reality we live in but I just handed you loads of examples of fighters coming off losses who still fought good opposition in their next fight?
A top 30 welterweight....,or even a welterweight...or a guy with any sort of decent professional pedigree isn't beyond the realms of plausibility here. I'm not asking Broner to square off against Matthyssee, but an opponent with name value, and pedigree fit for televised PPV boxing isn't too much to ask is it?
PPV is supposed to be a marquee event. Broner v Molina would struggle to draw viewers on Friday Night Fights.
Go on YouTube and watch a Broner work out/sparring session for free if you want to see showcase his skills.
I personally want to watch competitive fights if I'm paying for PPV. Not every fight will be 50/50, but if you're a professional fighter, a former three weight world belt holder there's a minimum standard of opponent you should be expected to face. Is a top 30 welterweight of much to ask?
Canelo lost and fought Angulo. Pacquaio lost and fought Rios. Froch has lost twice and come back against Abraham and Bute. Hopkins fought Tarver, Pavlik and Cloud all on the back of losses.
Those are the level of opposition the biggest names in boxing (whom Broner wants to be held in the same regard as) have lost and come back to fight against.
Carlos Molina by comparison is laughable.
I could give two ****s about Broner but he is coming off a humiliating devastating loss, if you expect him to be fighting someone even close to top end then that is totally your issue with not even being close to the reality which we live in.
You can want a lot of things, but wants are unlimited and meaningless. I really don't care if you don't like the fight or even the idea behind it but what exactly were you expecting that makes this some huge disappointment~
I don't expect anything like that on PPV, infact this is exactly the sort of fight I expect to see at least one of, named guy coming in off a loss in a fight to look good.
Go on YouTube and watch a Broner work out/sparring session for free if you want to see him showcase his skills.
I personally want to watch competitive fights if I'm paying for PPV. Not every fight will be 50/50, but if you're a professional fighter, a former three weight world belt holder there's a minimum standard of opponent you should be expected to face. Is a top 30 welterweight too much to ask?
Canelo lost and fought Angulo. Pacquaio lost and fought Rios. Froch has lost twice and come back against Abraham and Bute. Hopkins fought Tarver, Pavlik and Cloud all on the back of losses.
Those are the level of opposition the biggest names in boxing (whom Broner wants to be held in the same regard as) have lost and come back to fight against.
Carlos Molina by comparison is laughable.
It depends where you rank broner, he looked horrible in a fight he was heavily favored to win. His showings above 135 are bad. Also yes i'm comparing them because it's level of class. Gatti and Rios were not ranked so low...but Floyd and Manny are so far beyond them it's similar in my opinion.
ahh ok... when you put it that way i can understand :)
did you have broner in ur top p4p list? lol, alot of people did
It's a featured fight on a PPV. So you'd expect at least someone with decent perigee at the weight, even if they aren't a big threat ala Senchenko.
This fight is a mockery to the paying fans, so beats Carlos Molina inside a few round and what? Broner's back to his best? Who do they think they're fooling. He doesn't need to be in with a world beater, but a decent name and someone who has a remote chance of winning would do. Not a no hoper.
I don't expect anything like that on PPV, infact this is exactly the sort of fight I expect to see at least one of, named guy coming in off a loss in a fight to look good.
I am not paying to see Broner anyway, he just happens to be appearing~ so it really isn't that deep.
you're comparing this fight to pac-rios and floyd-gatti???? you do realize that carlos molina is probably not even in the top 50??? carlos molina has literally beaten nobody and has won nothing, and hasnt fought in 2 years. this is far worse.
It depends where you rank broner, he looked horrible in a fight he was heavily favored to win. His showings above 135 are bad. Also yes i'm comparing them because it's level of class. Gatti and Rios were not ranked so low...but Floyd and Manny are so far beyond them it's similar in my opinion.
yeah true but whati was thinking they might do, was come to a realization that broner is not that good.. and had two options.. build him back up and invest a lot of time and money building him back up. or just cash him out once or twice more and use him as a name on one of GBP other bright stars.... danny thurman etc
Still even if they think he isn't that good, better to recover some hype first before throwing him to the wolves.
SO no matter what this was exactly what was going to happen first, one fight on PPV is not a huge investment on their part more like minimal investment.
What was anyone expecting for Broner's next fight based on how he got totally humiliated~
This was pretty much the only way it was ever going to go, and the fact that it is on PPV just keeps it from main eventing on Showtime. This is pretty much the best way it could have gone.
So no it meets exactly what the expectations should have been~
It's a featured fight on a PPV. So you'd expect at least someone with decent perigee at the weight, even if they aren't a big threat ala Senchenko.
This fight is a mockery to the paying fans, so Broner beats Carlos Molina inside a few rounds and what? Broner's back to his best? Who do they think they're fooling. He doesn't need to be in with a world beater, but a decent name and someone who has a remote chance of winning would do. Not a no hoper. Do you pay to watch a boxer or do you pay to watch competitive bouts? Again, this is supposed to be a featured fight on PPV.
What was anyone expecting for Broner's next fight based on how he got totally humiliated~
This was pretty much the only way it was ever going to go, and the fact that it is on PPV just keeps it from main eventing on Showtime. This is pretty much the best way it could have gone.
So no it meets exactly what the expectations should have been~
yeah true but whati was thinking they might do, was come to a realization that broner is not that good.. and had two options.. build him back up and invest a lot of time and money building him back up. or just cash him out once or twice more and use him as a name on one of GBP other bright stars.... danny thurman etc
Angulo/Rios/Gatti are 1000x more accomplished fighters than Carlos Molina.
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=394398&cat=boxer
This guy shouldn't be showcased on national television. It was a crap fight for Khan and it's a crap fight for Broner.
As I said, he's not even fit to be Broner's sparring partner. He has beaten nobodies, literally absolute nobodies, club fighters, not ranked contenders, fringe contenders or has Ben's. Just nobodies.
Senchenko would have been a better opponent, or why not Andre Berto? In fact any top 30 welterweight in the world. Not an unranked lightweight/light welterweight.
I completely agree!!! Those guys have fought good competition and i know rios has held a title and i think gatti has held atleast two. im not saying a belt makes you this great fighter but carlos molina has done NOTHING!! i mean nothing at even a subpar level of competition!! this is clearly a confidence fight for broner, and GBP is kidding themselves trying to act like this is a good fight for ab
What was anyone expecting for Broner's next fight based on how he got totally humiliated~
This was pretty much the only way it was ever going to go, and the fact that it is on PPV just keeps it from main eventing on Showtime. This is pretty much the best way it could have gone.
So no it meets exactly what the expectations should have been~
Angulo/Rios/Gatti are 1000x more accomplished fighters than Carlos Molina.
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=394398&cat=boxer
This guy shouldn't be showcased on national television. It was a crap fight for Khan and it's a crap fight for Broner.
As I said, he's not even fit to be Broner's sparring partner. He has beaten nobodies, literally absolute nobodies, club fighters, not ranked contenders, not fringe contenders or not even has beens. Just nobodies.
Senchenko would have been a better opponent, or why not Andre Berto? In fact any top 30 welterweight in the world. Not an unranked lightweight/light welterweight.
Pac-Rios was and it's about as much as mismatch as this to be fair....and that headlined =/
Edit: Floyd-Gatti as well.
you're comparing this fight to pac-rios and floyd-gatti???? you do realize that carlos molina is probably not even in the top 50??? carlos molina has literally beaten nobody and has won nothing, and hasnt fought in 2 years. this is far worse.
It's a shyt fight. Tune ups should not be on PPV.
Pac-Rios was and it's about as much as mismatch as this to be fair....and that headlined =/
Edit: Floyd-Gatti as well.
This match-up has absolutely no redeeming qualities. I'm sure the matchmakers know that, and they couldn't care less. Molina is a cost-effective opponent; he'll present little-to-no threat and he comes cheap. Additionally, my assumption is that (casual) fans primarily buy a Mayweather PPV to see Mayweather, so having a stacked under-card isn't a necessity.