-Prime oscar x2- he embarrassed him.
-Prime Magarito- Floyd ducked, SSM obliterated him.
-Ricardo Mayorga-Ko
-Manny pacquaio- This alone brings SSM a whole another level from floyd
-Fought -prime Cotto- Robbery
-Prime -Saul alvarez
-Floyd mayweather - This alone brings SSM a whole another level from Pac-and ducked floyd
-Prime- Vernon Frost
-fought -Winky Wright
-fought-Fernando Vargas
-fought-Anthony Mundine
As you can see a sure Hall of Famer. His resume is level above both pac's and mayweather and is incredibly deep. There's no comparison.
The Collazo win was pretty good. So were the two Vargas wins.
I thought Shane won the 2nd Wright fight.
Those are solid wins, but not enough to be better than floyd or manny
winky won the 2nd fight,, much closer than the first but a solid 115-113 win for winky IMO
Collazo win looks better and better as time passes...
Vargas was past it, but still a solid win for shane
Everytime someone brings up margarito as some beast remember shane utterly destroyed him
true, but i think it gets overlooked that the cotto fight took alot out of margs,, everyone talks about cotto gettting ruined in that fight but both i think got ruined in that fight
-Prime oscar x2- he embarrassed him.
-Prime Magarito- Floyd ducked, SSM obliterated him.
-Ricardo Mayorga-Ko
-Manny pacquaio- This alone brings SSM a whole another level from floyd
-Fought -prime Cotto- Robbery
-Prime -Saul alvarez
-Floyd mayweather - This alone brings SSM a whole another level from Pac-and ducked floyd
-Prime- Vernon Frost
-fought -Winky Wright
-fought-Fernando Vargas
-fought-Anthony Mundine
As you can see a sure Hall of Famer. His resume is level above both pac's and mayweather and is incredibly deep. There's no comparison.
Based on your twisted logic, if you fight great fighters or great fights and lose the majority of the time, that makes you a Hall of Famer. If that's the case, Emmanuel Augustus (look him up in Boxrec since you have no clue who he is) is a lock for the Boxing Hall of Fame after he retires.
As far as your list is concerned, Anthony Mundine was a journeyman who never defeated anyone of note and Mosley lost to him.
Fernando Vargas was exposed as a hype job when he was knocked out by both Felix Trinidad and ODLH after both moved up from 147 to fight him before Mosley fought him.
Winky Wright was a great fighter in his prime, and Mosley lost both fights to him.
Vernon Forest was a great fighter in his prime at 147 and Mosley lost both fights to him.
The Cotto fight was close (I scored it a draw) but Mosley lost to him
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Mayorga was winning their fight on the scorecards when Mosley knocked him out with one second left in the fight.
The Margarito fight was definitely a huge victory for Mosley, especially since he was the underdog.
He didn't embarrass Oscar. Both fights with ODLH were close. I gave Mosley the first fight and Oscar the second one.
When he fought Pacquaio, he was past his prime. He would have beaten Pacquaio in his prime as evidenced by the fact that Freddie Roach said he was too good for Pacquaio after Mosley KO'd Margarito.
When he fought Alvarez , he was waaaaaay past his prime. If he had fought Alvarez in his prime, Mosley probably would have KO'd him.
As for Mayweather, nothing needs to be said about that fight, except that Mosley turned the fight down both at welterweight and at lightweight before they finally met.
If losing 9 out of 14 fights against quality fighters make you a great fighter, then Mosley should be considered the greatest of all time.
Nice names on the list, but like someone else already said, it's only validated with wins...
Hell, just look at Mayorga's resume.. some big names, but is he an ATG because of it?
cotto-mosley WAS NOT a robbery. i had cotto edging shane, and i wanted shane to win. but if you had shane edging miguel, i wont complain. but it wasn't a clear cut shane win and def not a robbery.
Sorry but no. No one embarasses a prime Oscar, he lost a controversial split, then got robbed in the rematch where he outboxed a PED inflated Mosley.
Get your facts straight.
I agree. I felt that while the first fight was close Shane deserves the nod. However, the second fight was clearly a robbery.
-Prime oscar x2- he embarrassed him.
-Prime Magarito- Floyd ducked, SSM obliterated him.
-Ricardo Mayorga-Ko
-Manny pacquaio- This alone brings SSM a whole another level from floyd
-Fought -prime Cotto- Robbery
-Prime -Saul alvarez
-Floyd mayweather - This alone brings SSM a whole another level from Pac-and ducked floyd
-Prime- Vernon Frost
-fought -Winky Wright
-fought-Fernando Vargas
-fought-Anthony Mundine
As you can see a sure Hall of Famer. His resume is level above both pac's and mayweather and is incredibly deep. There's no comparison.
A resume is nothing without WINS in those fights.
His biggest win is Margarito
His wins against Oscar are tarnished with the admittance of using PEDS
He beat washed up Vargas.
Lost to soft punching Mundine in a fight he probably got paid to lose.
Lost to Floyd, Manny, Vernon, Winky, Canelo, and Cotto.
-Prime oscar x2- he embarrassed him.
Sorry but no. No one embarasses a prime Oscar, he lost a controversial split, then got robbed in the rematch where he outboxed a PED inflated Mosley.
Get your facts straight.
lol i know ur an alt but still, i always tell people his "two" wins over oscar are his biggest moments. not the margs fight although u could say its 2nd. he was p4p #1 for a year after beating oscar i think the first time.... that alone is great but after that yes he fought HOF fighter after HOF fighter but lost to most of them.
sugar adam ali i dont think vargas and mayorga were completely done when shane fought him, remember the first vargas fight was close until shane closed the show. those wins are all "good" wins not great his victories over collazo,mayorga,vargas, margarito.
hes most def a sure hall of famer and my 2nd fav fighter ever but i dont think hes an ATG
Vargas and mayorga are decent wins, but they are on the same level as say floyd beating gatti, or manny beating morales in the 3rd fight or larios...
Vargas was shot, but he had size and youth on his side vs shane..
Those wins are good, but nowhere near enough to be better than a floyd or manny resume
Shane not ATG?. and you call yourself a fan?. GTFO hater.
lol i know ur an alt but still, i always tell people his "two" wins over oscar are his biggest moments. not the margs fight although u could say its 2nd. he was p4p #1 for a year after beating oscar i think the first time.... that alone is great but after that yes he fought HOF fighter after HOF fighter but lost to most of them.
sugar adam ali i dont think vargas and mayorga were completely done when shane fought him, remember the first vargas fight was close until shane closed the show. those wins are all "good" wins not great his victories over collazo,mayorga,vargas, margarito.
hes most def a sure hall of famer and my 2nd fav fighter ever but i dont think hes an ATG
-Prime oscar
-Prime Magarito- Floyd ducked, SSM obliterated him.
-Ricardo Mayorga-Ko
-Manny pacquaio- This alone brings SSM a whole another level from floyd
-Fought -prime Cotto- Robbery
-Prime -Saul alvarez
-Floyd mayweather - This alone brings SSM a whole another level from Pac-and ducked floyd
-Prime- Vernon Frost
-fought -Winky Wright
-fought-Fernando Vargas
-fought-Anthony Mundine
As you can see a sure Hall of Famer. His resume is level above both pac's and mayweather and is incredibly deep. There's no comparison.
Shane has one maybe 2 top level wins in his whole career.. Dont get me wrong, he fought an incredible list of great opponents but at the end of the day he beat oscar and he beat margs... Other than that he lost all his big fights vs top guys
Vargas, mayorga, were way past it by the time they fought shane