Manny should have look for the best challenges but decided for on reason or another to go the easiest route:
Robert Guerrero
Ruslan Provodnikov
Paul Williams
Floyd Mayweather (no excuse why he ducked him)
Winky Wright
Vernon Forrest
Pacquaio's best win are De La Hoya, Mosley and Marquez.
Manny obviously chose the path of least resistance and decided to duck the best comp around, cowardiness in its purist form....how can anyone be a fan of this?
He was knocked clean out by marquez but act like that never happened.
MP's resume is already great, only fools and floydtards, haters, imbeciles dont know it.
Honestly defeating Floyd would only be the icing on the cake for him, but the icing just ducks and ducks, sad but true:boxing:
As is Floyd
MP's resume is already great, only fools and floydtards, haters, imbeciles dont know it.
Honestly defeating Floyd would only be the icing on the cake for him, but the icing just ducks and ducks, sad but true:boxing:
When their favourite fighter ie Floyd, don't get FOTD awards they resort to these kind of threads.
MP's resume is already great, only fools and floydtards, haters, imbeciles dont know it.
Honestly defeating Floyd would only be the icing on the cake for him, but the icing just ducks and ducks, sad but true:boxing:
for handpicked guys, larios and rios are damn good.
larios was just a tuneup and rios coming off ko loss.
good fighters.
Yes they are,, much better than say brusceles, and shambra
I have followed Floyd since his amateur days bc he was Rogers nephew and had the last name,,, by 98 I was convinced he was a legit p4p guy but I never thought he would be what he is today, so yeah he kinda exceeded my expectations, but he has been a major letdown since 2003.. We went from basically taking on all comers at 130 to fighting hand picked guys, with only the hatton, oscar and canelo fight being true big fights
So that 12 years and 3 legit big fights,,, that is why everyone is harsh on Floyd whereas manny has basically fought a who's who over that same time period with a few handpickd guys like larios, and rios
for handpicked guys, larios and rios are damn good.
larios was just a tuneup and rios coming off ko loss.
good fighters.
All u need to do is look at what the guys Manny fought did after he fought them. Since 2006:
Larios - Nothing
Morales - Nothing
Solis - Nothing
Barrera - Nothing
Marquez - Floyd beat him 12-0, Marquez KO his ass
Diaz - Nothing
De La Hoya - Nothing
Hatton - Nothing
Cotto - Won a title
Clottey - Nothing, lost to Manny because he had to take a sh-t
Margarito - Nothing
Mosley - Nothing
Marquez - Floyd beat him 12-0, Marquez KO his ass
Bradley - Lost to him, but the kid actually is the best fighter on his resume...pure class
Marquez - Floyd beat him 12-0, Marquez KO his ass
Rios - Nothing
Manny has fought all washed up former great fighters or just B level opposition.
Umm. Your so wrong on so much,, I can't believe you have been here since 2004. You post like your a 12 year old that just watched his first Floyd fight
Barrera- went on to be 130 champ for a few years, and won foty with morales
Morales- went on to win a belt at 140
Marquez went on to win titles at 130, 135, 140
Hatton retired he got beat so bad by manny,, when has Floyd beat a lineal champ so bad that they retire
Cotto own belt at 154 and gave Floyd hardest fight in years,
Bradley has become a top p4p guy with wins over ruslan and jmm
Now remind me again what has Judah, baldomir, Ortiz, ghost, Shane, gatti, oscar done after Floyd,,, only hatton and jmm ever did anything of note since
All u need to do is look at what the guys Manny fought did after he fought them. Since 2006:
Larios - Nothing
Morales - Nothing
Solis - Nothing
Barrera - Nothing
Marquez - Floyd beat him 12-0, Marquez KO his ass
Diaz - Nothing
De La Hoya - Nothing
Hatton - Nothing
Cotto - Won a title
Clottey - Nothing, lost to Manny because he had to take a sh-t
Margarito - Nothing
Mosley - Nothing
Marquez - Floyd beat him 12-0, Marquez KO his ass
Bradley - Lost to him, but the kid actually is the best fighter on his resume...pure class
Marquez - Floyd beat him 12-0, Marquez KO his ass
Rios - Nothing
Manny has fought all washed up former great fighters or just B level opposition.
We can all twist and nitpick a resume till our hearts are content... As i'm sure someone will do with Floyd's resume.
In the end, what does it matter? It is your view which you seem adamant on, an opinion not really worth changing in that regard..
We all get it, that you aren't big on Pacquiao, his fans, resume etc. We get it man
All u need to do is look at what the guys Manny fought did after he fought them. Since 2006:
Larios - Nothing
Morales - Nothing
Solis - Nothing
Barrera - Nothing
Marquez - Floyd beat him 12-0, Marquez KO his ass
Diaz - Nothing
De La Hoya - Nothing
Hatton - Nothing
Cotto - Won a title
Clottey - Nothing, lost to Manny because he had to take a sh-t
Margarito - Nothing
Mosley - Nothing
Marquez - Floyd beat him 12-0, Marquez KO his ass
Bradley - Lost to him, but the kid actually is the best fighter on his resume...pure class
Marquez - Floyd beat him 12-0, Marquez KO his ass
Rios - Nothing
Manny has fought all washed up former great fighters or just B level opposition.
Oscar called the shots vs Floyd and manny,,, Floyd beat a better version of oscar no doubt
But don't use Shane and say he is biggest win for either guy.. It's just an average win,,, Shane hadn't had a big level win over a decade.. 2000 vs oscar,, then schooled by Forrest and winky twice, lost to cotto, finally beat a shot margs and the. Floyd fight him 16 months later off a long layoff, and manny beats him a year later... Not highly praised wins IMO
Best win was the Barrera win for manny, and then the jmm2 win... Those were prime elite hall of famers and much better than corrales and Castillo and hatton
I only meant it in that in name value thats the best both fought. You saying that there best wins where the other names you stated only proves my point they both have weak resumes compared to other ATGS its laughable to compare them to other ATGS when they really need to boost there resumes and to fight each other. Also i think Floyd 130 divison is underrated Genaro Herandez was the lineal champion also was a very tall fighter for that divison and a good boxer floyd was also tall enough to and had good reach to counter idk how Morales, barrera, and pac (remember this was still wasnt the pac of 09) would have done against him. Morales got the titles and got his name at 130 by beating chavez and carlos hernandez, someone floyd and genero both beat. Type in shane mosley vs Genaro Hernandez sparring in youtube he looked as tall or bigger than mosley too.
LOL.....nice try, I gave you how Floyd meet my expectation in and out of the ring and it still not good for you because you don't like Floyd.
However all Manny has done to exceed your expectations was beat a few fighters (which Floyd has done too)...Nothing will satisfy you at this point because you try to poke hole in it.
Let me spell it out for you.....FLOYD HAS EXCEED MY EXPECTATIONS.
Oh and by the way, no matter what you think of Audley and Sven professionally, winning an Olympic medal is a BIG deal...don't diminish it because these fighter pro career were a bust or because Pacquaio didn't win one....hater.
I have followed Floyd since his amateur days bc he was Rogers nephew and had the last name,,, by 98 I was convinced he was a legit p4p guy but I never thought he would be what he is today, so yeah he kinda exceeded my expectations, but he has been a major letdown since 2003.. We went from basically taking on all comers at 130 to fighting hand picked guys, with only the hatton, oscar and canelo fight being true big fights
So that 12 years and 3 legit big fights,,, that is why everyone is harsh on Floyd whereas manny has basically fought a who's who over that same time period with a few handpickd guys like larios, and rios
Audley Harrison won an Olympic gold medal. Get over it.
Oh and Audley was 31-0 before he started getting knocked out...so now we take away his Olympic medal win.
Wasn't Manny knocked the f-uck out by Marquez? Do we take away his accolades because he took a 10 minutes siesta.
Audley Harrison won an Olympic gold medal. Get over it.
So you agree Floyd can't match Pacquiao for breaking expectations.
Glad that's is done with.
All the great fighters do this, Ali, Duran, Armstrong SRR.
LOL.....nice try, I gave you how Floyd meet my expectation in and out of the ring and it still not good for you because you don't like Floyd.
However all Manny has done to exceed your expectations was beat a few fighters (which Floyd has done too)...Nothing will satisfy you at this point because you try to poke hole in it.
Let me spell it out for you.....FLOYD HAS EXCEED MY EXPECTATIONS.
Oh and by the way, no matter what you think of Audley and Sven professionally, winning an Olympic medal is a BIG deal...don't diminish it because these fighter pro career were a bust or because Pacquaio didn't win one....hater.
I get it but let me ask you this, is that the only reason in your opinion why Pacs resume is better than Floyds?
There 2 biggest hall of fame fighters in both resumes Floyd fought in better condition regardless of who people thought would win.
Oscar for the floyd fight called the shots, for manny he weighted less fight night than pac that was disgusting in my opinion.
Mosley fight was a smack to the face to Freddie Roach because after the JMM win freddie laughed at floyd beacuse he fought a small guy brain kenny asked him on espn if he thought floyd would fight someone like mosley he said no he'd probably fight someone like paulie malignaggi. After floyd took the fight it was a smack to roach who just avoided Mosley to fight Pac unless he came to 142. Also Mosley was p4p#3 at the time. So should floyd not get more credit for that?
Oscar called the shots vs Floyd and manny,,, Floyd beat a better version of oscar no doubt
But don't use Shane and say he is biggest win for either guy.. It's just an average win,,, Shane hadn't had a big level win over a decade.. 2000 vs oscar,, then schooled by Forrest and winky twice, lost to cotto, finally beat a shot margs and the. Floyd fight him 16 months later off a long layoff, and manny beats him a year later... Not highly praised wins IMO
Best win was the Barrera win for manny, and then the jmm2 win... Those were prime elite hall of famers and much better than corrales and Castillo and hatton
If you don't fight the other best fighter of your era, it's the path of least resistance. This goes for Mayweather as well.
Funny how you respond so differently when the TS was on Floyd's relatively weak resume.
"You're obsessed with Mayweather what the hell." - Holywarrior :lol1:
So Floyd actually ducked an overrated Pacman. Man, that's even worse. Hehe..
If I were a floydiot I'd just focus my energies in convincing my hero Floyd to fight Pac so I don't have to make myself look stupid in these forums. Tell him to beat Pac so that my fantasy win will become reality. Hehe...
Not idiots, it was the general consensus.
Ali did the same when he beat Liston and then with Foreman.
I get it but let me ask you this, is that the only reason in your opinion why Pacs resume is better than Floyds?
There 2 biggest hall of fame fighters in both resumes Floyd fought in better condition regardless of who people thought would win.
Oscar for the floyd fight called the shots, for manny he weighted less fight night than pac that was disgusting in my opinion.
Mosley fight was a smack to the face to Freddie Roach because after the JMM win freddie laughed at floyd beacuse he fought a small guy brain kenny asked him on espn if he thought floyd would fight someone like mosley he said no he'd probably fight someone like paulie malignaggi. After floyd took the fight it was a smack to roach who just avoided Mosley to fight Pac unless he came to 142. Also Mosley was p4p#3 at the time. So should floyd not get more credit for that?
The man has won an Olympic BRONZE medal and professionally has beaten everyone placed in front of him.....44-0, 45-0...who cares, there zero on the other side
To me ring wise, that sh-its on anything that Pacquaio has done in the ring.
Floyd can always go and do the things Pac has done right now...but Pac can never do these two things:
1. Win an Olympic medal
2. Claim he's undefeated.
So yes Floyd in my opinion has exceeded my expectations.
Audley Harrison won an Olympic gold medal. Get over it.
So you agree Floyd can't match Pacquiao for breaking expectations.
Glad that's is done with.
All the great fighters do this, Ali, Duran, Armstrong SRR.
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