Is this guy, a leading heavyweight of the 90s, long lost to the boxing masses? Barely anyone talks about him yet he was a terrific fighter, a lightheavyweight titlist who jumped up to heavyweight, with an even larger size disadvantage than Holyfield and won a title off of Holy, beat guys like Cooper and only lost to an ATG in Foreman during his initial run. Those are some great achievements but he is looked down on now, almost as a punch line.
What do you guys think of him?
true about his lack of opposition at lhw but he was a beast in that class and would have given any atg lwh trouble at the least imo
Well we will never know for sure, but would love to see him vs spinks or roy at that weight...
People need to stop making a big deal about his light heavy run,,
Impressive stats but never fought anyone of note there,, he is like a 175 version of deontay wilder, or edwin valero..
His run at 175 was not really what its hyped up to be
true about his lack of opposition at lhw but he was a beast in that class and would have given any atg lwh trouble at the least imo
People need to stop making a big deal about his light heavy run,,
Impressive stats but never fought anyone of note there,, he is like a 175 version of deontay wilder, or edwin valero..
His run at 175 was not really what its hyped up to be
what's to remember?
his LHW reign was like Mosley's LW reign
he barely eked out a win vs languid/injured/cardiac stressed Holyfield
he got KO'd by old man Foreman fighting to impress his trainer
he got a paper belt back vs Schulz, then Holyfield murked him
he was talented and exciting, so props for that
but the guy underachieved and wasn't great
Will be remembered for being Ko'd in 20 seconds Tua, and losing to an old foreman just shat on his whole career.
Generally, when he stepped up he didn't deliver barring Evander Holyfield.
As a light heavy he really was the poster boy for exposing the problem with multiple titles in one division.
There were several good champions and many interesting light heavies around in that era (Prince Charles Williams, Virgil Hill, Iran Barclay, Thomas Hearnes, Jeff Harding), that could have created a great round robin tournament, that may have created legends. However, while they jawed at each other, none wanted anything to do with Moorer, PERIOD, so he never really got to prove himself at that weight as an all time great. Still I'm not sure there is a Light Heavy I would pick over him though.
As a Heavyweight he came about in an era that may have been thin on the very tip top compared to the golden ages, but it was thick as hell in the tier just below that. He acquitted himself very well, but did not have a great chin at that weight.
All respect though, he was an awesome fighter to watch. Somebody was going down, you just did not know who :boxing:
Interesting thought, could a prime Moorer beat Wlad? Does he have enough pop?
does he have the beating of other titlists such as Povetkin or Valuev etc?
I believe he beats any heavy today,except the Klits....
Povetkin would not be a problem...Valuev?...seriously?...comedic value aside,of course.
Is this guy, a leading heavyweight of the 90s, long lost to the boxing masses? Barely anyone talks about him yet he was a terrific fighter, a lightheavyweight titlist who jumped up to heavyweight, with an even larger size disadvantage than Holyfield and won a title off of Holy, beat guys like Cooper and only lost to an ATG in Foreman during his initial run. Those are some great achievements but he is looked down on now, almost as a punch line.
What do you guys think of him?
I dunno about forgotten, he was one of the greatest LHWs of all time! But just because he started at LHW that doesn't mean that he was at a greater size disadvantage than Holyfield, I mean he weighed in at around 215 for his fights, I can think of a few times that Holyfield weighed less around 208-210..
He was a much more stylistic and fluid fighter than Holyfield, more talented and the south paw style may of helped.. Where they differed, Holyfield had an unbelievable will and mental spirit Double M was definitely weak in that area!... Plus he didn't go down the Real Deal route of headbutting and nut punching your way to victory, that may be the big difference!
Is this guy, a leading heavyweight of the 90s, long lost to the boxing masses? Barely anyone talks about him yet he was a terrific fighter, a lightheavyweight titlist who jumped up to heavyweight, with an even larger size disadvantage than Holyfield and won a title off of Holy, beat guys like Cooper and only lost to an ATG in Foreman during his initial run. Those are some great achievements but he is looked down on now, almost as a punch line.
What do you guys think of him?
WHO??? Oh yeah. He won a close majority decision in the first fight with Holyfield, and went down 5 times in the rematch. He quit in the 8th round of that fight. He lost his title and his first pro fight to 45 year old George Foreman when he was 26. I remember Moorer talking sh1t years later about Foreman landing a lucky punch. What do I think of him? His greatest asset was that he was a southpaw, which I think befuddled many of his opponents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=u7lf_T98kxU
Moorer is the first southpaw heavy weight champion ever.
And he lost an historic fight against Foreman making him the oldest winner of a major title at the time
he was winning on the cards when he got knocked out so he actually didn't lose. right vitali fans?
Moorer is the first southpaw heavy weight champion ever.
And he lost an historic fight against Foreman making him the oldest winner of a major title at the time
He was a very good fighter at his best, I think he ko'd every LHW he ever fought and ran his record against better comp than most streaks like that to 26-0(26ko).
If he was around during the internet age he would be massively hyped.
He was a lineal champ and ibf champ.... Most guys would kill for a resume like that
Well yeah of course your average fighter would love that.
But on the grand scale of things his resume isn't good.
His LHW resume is very poor and his HW one outside of Holyfield isn't too good either.
Holyfields was a great win obviously but that's all he has really that's impressive.
He competition was very poor though let's be honest.
Good fighter, talented but an underachiever.
Didn't do all that much.
He was a lineal champ and ibf champ.... Most guys would kill for a resume like that
He was a very good fighter at his best, I think he ko'd every LHW he ever fought and ran his record against better comp than most streaks like that to 26-0(26ko).
If he was around during the internet age he would be massively hyped.
He competition was very poor though let's be honest.
Good fighter, talented but an underachiever.
Didn't do all that much.
Forgotten in the same way and for the same reasons as Malik Scott and Alfredo Angulo will be forgotten?
Moorer is better than Angulo.
He was one of the best if not the best southpaw heavyweight and had a great win over Holyfield
Really????????
possibly. he at least has 1 great win while vitali has zero. moorer has a couple other decent wins as well. vitali has more overall b level wins and certainly more c level wins but his greatness is based on fantasy and could haves.