Wha's perplexing to me is, SRL is not discredited for losing to a former lightweight.
While Floyd gets very little credit for completely shutting down a great former lightweight.
sigh.
No matter how you slice it, he lost to someone he should've beaten.
All the rationalization and justification in the world doesn't change that.
No wonder Bernard Hopkins places Money May in the top 3 of All Times!
Duran...and ATG LW.
Castillo...a good LW.
Leonard went to war with Duran. Floyd pot shotted Castillo and most people think he lost.
Floyd had a chance at fighting ONE ATG, and didnt want it.
Leonard fought Duran 3 times, Hearns twice and Hagler.
Basically what we have, is the Great Ray Leonard losing to a wild ass lightweight.
Mayweather decisions him easier than Castillo.
original op made perfect sense. if you look at all three leonard and duran fights you see a tremendous gulf in talent and ability between the two. ray arguably won 26 of the 35 rounds they fought. so the 9/out of ten times scenario is backed up by fact.
floyd is a level defenisively and most importantly athletically above sugar ray leonard, and three levels above duran in both defense and atheleticisim.
Perfect sense? A wild ass lightweight? Really?
And if Floyd can UD Castillo, he cant UD Leonard easier? That makes perfect sense to you?
Ok, im not going to explain things to you. But i highly recommend killing yourself. :dead:
original op made perfect sense. if you look at all three leonard and duran fights you see a tremendous gulf in talent and ability between the two. ray arguably won 26 of the 35 rounds they fought. so the 9/out of ten times scenario is backed up by fact.
floyd is a level defenisively and most importantly athletically above sugar ray leonard, and three levels above duran in both defense and atheleticisim.
Embarrassing.
Wha's perplexing to me is, SRL is not discredited for losing to a former lightweight.
While Floyd gets very little credit for completely shutting down a great former lightweight.
sigh.
No matter how you slice it, he lost to someone he should've beaten.
All the rationalization and justification in the world doesn't change that.
No wonder Bernard Hopkins places Money May in the top 3 of All Times!
Basically what we have, is the Great Ray Leonard losing to a wild ass lightweight.
Mayweather decisions him easier than Castillo.
Wild ass lightweight? Floyd is a conservative lightweight, who don't fight the best.
Floyd needs to fight someone nearly as good as SRL before we can come to conclusion FLoyd is SRLs daddy.
Exactly, to a victory. No matter how you slice it, you said it, "To a victory". A "win". Let that sink in for a minute before you reply.
You forgot to highlight "run" and if getting a paper felt W is your style , and being the paper champ is your style , and being called essentially a b.itch for the most part of your career (hypothetically) then more power to you.
Leonard wasn't looking for a "victory" he wanted to beat Durans ass, like I said Mayweather doesn't know nothing about that ****.
You can have your "victories." And if you pretend like you don't know wtf I'm talking about..... Then you might be a little slow.
Let that sink in for a minute.
I'm drinking whiskey, it sounded good in my head :lol1:
I had "universes" and space in my head, from reading the universe threads in the lounge, so I tried to relate in NSB.
If Leonard and Duran meet 10 times over and over again, with every first time resetting, like they never fought each other. SRL will always lose that first time trying to play macho man role and fight Duran's fight, and then adjust the rest of the 9 times.
It makes sense. I'm not sure I agree, but it makes sense.
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I'm drinking whiskey, it sounded good in my head :lol1:
I had "universes" and space in my head, from reading the universe threads in the lounge, so I tried to relate in NSB.
If Leonard and Duran meet 10 times over and over again, with every first time resetting, like they never fought each other. SRL will always lose that first time trying to play macho man role and fight Duran's fight, and then adjust the rest of the 9 times.
You may be right, Mayweather might run and pitter patter his way to a victory.
Exactly, to a victory. No matter how you slice it, you said it, "To a victory". A "win". Let that sink in for a minute before you reply.
Yuppp Leonard lost trying to outman the manliest WW of that era. Duran was a bravado filled beast of a man. A mans man. Everyman wishes inside that they felt the way about themselves as we all thought about Duran at that time. Hot headed dont give a fcuk, fight you anywhere anytime and beat your @$$ type of man. Leonard was not that and tried to be and for it he paid. But 9 times out of 10 Leonard would be beat Duran. Love Little Hands of Stone but let's be realistic. The rematch says all there is to discuss regarding the level of boxing ability between the two men. If you had seen the 2nd fight before the first there is no way you would have thought that Duran would have ever been able to beat Leonard.
You may be right, Mayweather might run and pitter patter his way to a victory. And if you think that THAT was what was important in THAT PARTICULAR fight then you're a f.uckin idiot beyond belief. That fight wasn about just winning (which is all a p.ussy like Mayweather can relate to, just a pathetic "w" on paper.) That fight was about WAR, who was the bigger man, with the bigger nuts. Something that a p.ussy like Mayweather can't relate to.
Peace!