Mayweather misses 11 opportunities to fight viable opponents

Jewel12y ago

Mayweather misses eleven threatening opportunities to fight viable opponents (the most in boxing history) since 1999.POUND-FOR-POUND, THE BEST MANAGER By The Nonpareil Hilario In 1999-2000 while Joel Casamayor, Acelino Freitas, and "Lil But Bad" Stevie Johnston were all viable candidates to fight this 5'8" junior lightweight. These men were by-passed for lesser 130-pound names such as Carlos Rios, Justin Juuko, Carlos Gerena and Gregorio Vargas. To lure the late Diego Corrales in a 130-pound scrap, while Chico was struggling exhaustingly to make 130, is suspect but Chico obliged, so that's on him not on this elusive prodigy. But if we look closer after this fight, "Pretty Boy" was still campaigning at 130. He tested lightweight once against Emanuel Augustus, but fights two more lesser 130 pounders in Carlos Hernandez and Jesus Chavez, while Casamayor, Freitas, and Johnston would still have been hot fights, as far as youth, speed, skill, good-for-TV- networks, fans and Fistiana are concerned. The Rios fight was aired on the TNT network, as this father of four wasn't an HBO-exclusive boxer just yet. Let's not forget, the greatest threat to this former three-time national Golden Gloves champion in 1999 was "Sugar" Shane Mosley. Keep this name in mind for 10 years later. 2002 will mark Roger Mayweather's nephew's greatest and only year he should get credit for, challenging Jose Luis Castillo who was the best lightweight of the day. Many at ringside and media in attendance believed he lost this fight, but the man previously known as Floyd Joy Sinclair returned later in the year to win the rematch - soundly. The year 2003 brought wins against Victoriano Sosa and Phillip N'dou. The dust had settled a bit because Mosley is now three years into his welterweight campaign, Casamayor and Freitas fought one another (and now a division below) and Johnston is available early in the year but suffers a technical knockout loss at the hands of Juan Lazcano in September. During the frames of 2004 - 2005, Kostya Tszyu is the 140 pound lineal champion and owner of this division. So, rather than repeat his "dare to be great" arrival at lightweight by challenging Castillo, this 1996 Bronze medalist opted to fight Demarcus Corley, Henry Bruseles and Arturo Gatti -not The Boss. Introducing the "Pattern Train", which began boarding less challenging prizefighters in 1999, got derailed in 2002 and has been back on track since, hence the title of this article. In 2006 the Pattern Train becomes more visible if one is using binoculars because up until now, it's going on 7 years without 5 peers. Zab Judah boards with luggage and a loss in his previous fight, for an exclusive pay per view appearance. Then Judah's conqueror Carlos Baldomir, embarked the Pattern for another pay per view night of boxing. Not the fan-demanding, good-for-networks and Boxiana's then most feared welterweight Antonio Margarito, who many viewed as a taller, stronger Castillo prototype. In 2007, after engaging in a pay-per-view record breaking extravaganza, Oscar De La Hoya departed the Pattern with a loss against this Las Vegas resident. It was to be ODLH's last hurrah, in terms of Oscar being competitive. Later in the year, Ricky Hatton boarded the Pattern with tote bag and a traveling band from the United Kingdom. A good win, no complaints, because the Pattern is now changed to Money. No more legacy-building, not that it was of interest from its choices and actions, respectively. It's now about making cents, including 50 Cent. Sadly in 2008, the man know known as "Money" retires, with an undefeated, smaller and fierce short-armed pay-per-view star Miguel Cotto available and a taller long-armed Margarito conqueror Paul Williams, extremely available. January 2009 opens with Mosley having a career resurrecting win over Margarito, making him the obvious lucrative opponent for Leonard Ellerbe's best friend who announced a comeback in May. Not a chance! Instead, the smaller and less threatening Juan Manuel Marquez was asked to travel north ten pounds for a pay-per-view destination. Speaking of ten pounds, now we can insert Winky Wright to this list of missed operable opponents. This undefeated shot-caller trash talked about a potential fight with Wright in 04 and could've added the same amount of weight asked of Mr. Marquez for his "comeback" bout set for September 2009. To no one's surprise, he refused to add the weight to fight Winky, who at that time was imploring for a super fight with many big names of the day. They clashed on **********.com's Mayweather Mondays and Winky Wednesdays. This writer won't forget the build-up from week to week as these two held court at this website weekly. After Marquez was dispatched via unanimous decision, Shane needed to climb into the ring and come out of character to challenge the former drop-out of Ottawa Hills High School in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Finally cornered, he accepted and beat Shane over a 12-round unanimous decision seven months later. Next; Manny Pacquiao, with blood test demands, character assassinations implicating the Philippine icon of using steroids, various court cases and match-making personalities not agreeing to terms made it difficult to finalize a deal. This lasted over the course of 2009, 2010 and 2011 hurting all involved, mainly Pugilism on the world stage. When a boxer has a trend of avoiding top notch competition, it should be taken into consideration very seriously by writers, fighters and fans. Lineal middleweight king, Sergio Martinez, has called Junior to meet at 154 a few times; no response was ever made public from the Mayweather team. Yet folks continue to "believe" in a person who has clearly demonstrated since 1999 a lack of self-assurance. "If you claim you're the best fighter in the world pound for pound fight! Don't make any excuses" James Toney, criticizing his Grand Rapids neighbor. Fact to Consider: established in this essay are E L E V E N men that this once 84-6 amateur didn't fight. This practitioner lacks true faith in self that champions who dare to be great possess - like Ray Leonard for Roberto Duran, Thomas Hearns for Marvelous Marvin Hagler or Meldrick Taylor for Julio Cesar Chavez. This is true pound-for-pound reputation, not a fighter's attributes or the handling of much aforementioned C-rated opposition. Pound-for-Pound begins internally with the willingness to challenge yourself through your peers and ends externally with succeeding. Not monopolizing opponents for less risk / most money over a long period. Moreover, improper labeling of this status is equivalent to the music industry calling today's half-naked and sex-selling songstresses diva, when Aretha Franklin, Gladys Knight and Dionne Warwick sung and performed to the very essence of this term with grace and never cast their pearls amongst swine. With usage of phrases such as: didn't fight, promoters disagreeing or the networks didn't come to terms, this is a very high number of misses for a boxer to be dubbed "pound-for-pound". There is no evidence of a real threatening fight like the aforementioned 80's comparisons. In the court of law it's viewed as defrauding the public because pound-for-pound is contrary to this subject's 42 -0 dossier. Sugar Ray Robinson was the first fighter to be christened Pound-for-Pound. He went 40 - 0 in his first two years as a pro, beating Sammy Angott 2x, Marty Servo 2x, Fritzie Zivic 2x and Jake LaMotta once. Angott and Zivic were former World Champions, while Servo and LaMotta would be years later. This is when the word champion meant King of the Throne. Today, we need to keep the bar high. At the beginning of his eleventh year Robbie was 129 - 1 with the sole defeat avenged four times! Pound-for-Pound calculus; Robinson demonstrates willingness within 24 months as a pro versus four threatening peers, beats all of them and grants rematches. Jeff Mayweather's nephew has 42 contests in 15 years with one willing bout against Castillo. I just vomited writing the previous sentence because it's a blasphemous half-hearted comparison. Is it easy to dissect a person's record? Not with this amount of missed peers. Pacquiao fought Marco Antonio Barrera twice, Erik Morales and Marquez three times. Manny is 7-1-1 with these pound-for-pound peers. Paul Williams, from 2007-2010 would literally campaign in 3 weight classes searching for the best challenges. Mosley accepted challenges from a young Oscar De La Hoya, the late Vernon Forrest and Wright. Take a peak at Oscar's opposition choices - impressive! James Toney is the last prizefighter to fight threatening peers six weeks apart in Michael Nunn and Reggie Johnson in 1991. He fought and sought the best all the way to a 2006 draw with Hasim Rahman. James is noteworthy and is consistent with true pound-for-pound accolades. Deception smothers reality. The public should be steered properly of who's who because they too can see this trend - now and then - but they aren't writers. Writers should be the voice of the voiceless and write as fighters fought in the 40's -- with integrity and honesty. Springs Toledo is one of those writers, for his impeccable research and new information revealed within each expose' on living and deceased fistic greats. Congratulations to Andre Ward for an incredible run since his 2009 win over Edison Miranda and to date against Carl Froch to ascend to the top of the 168-pound honors...Nat Fleischer would've been proud. Good news, Bert Sugar is feeling better.

Comments (20)

4Corners

This is a thread about Floyd's past not current situation. It should be obvious because I'm always bringing up the past. Yet you bring up current Martinez. Martinez called out Floyd many times over the past 5 years. At the time, Martinez could have fought at 154 easily. People were calling for that fight if Manny fight didn't happen. Floyd's team said No to Martinez fight and no it wasn't because of your silly excuse! It was the "money" excuse" :lol1: BTW, Floyd has fought many opponents who just had 0, 1 or 2 fights at 147. Yet, I'm sure you considered them opponents legit, right .... but to protect Floyd, who has been #1 P4P and has fought at 154 prior to being called out, you will say just about anything. Crazy stuff! Williams: Yes, people wanted to see Floyd fight Williams. Much more than Guerrero, Maidana, Khan, ..... you know, the guys YOU, YES YOU keep on telling me are legit fights.....AGAIN, you will say just about anything to protect your hero Floyd. BTW, AGAIN, Floyd ALREADY fought at 154. Secondly, Williams moved up to 154 because he wanted to get fights but told everyone that he can come back down to 147, easily! Mosley: Funny how you say "but so and so was at 154, so don't blame Floyd". Well, Mosley was fighting at 154 in 2004, 2005 and 2006. While Floyd was fighting at 140 then moved up to 147 and wanted to fight someone there. So why are you blaming Mosley again if you don't see it that way for Floyd? Coming back to "Mosley didn't want Floyd", Really? It was documented in 2006 that after the Vargas II fight, Mosley wanted to come down to 147 to fight Floyd, Cotto, .... Mosley had said that if Floyd really wanted Mosley all he had to do is wait a month or two and Mosley would be OK with that. Just ask yourself why wouldn't Floyd wait a couple of months so he can have Mosley in his resume, considering that Floyd had said that he was getting ready to retire? There are video clips of Mosley wanting Floyd in 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010. Once Mosley spoke louder about wanting Floyd, there are video clips of Floyd NOT wanting Mosley, in 2007-2009. So ask yourself, did Floyd really want to fight Mosley? Not until Floyd himself said that Mosley is now OLD! Mosley openly dodged fighting Floyd in 2006, most likely due to his boss Oscar getting his crack at Floyd first, but still. If Mosley was old and done after beating the crap out of Margarito....what was he after getting beat down by Floyd and drawing with Mora??? No one wanted to see Mayweather-Williams after he lost to Carlos f**king Quintana......No one. That's the biggest rewriting of history I've ever seen. The only time anybody wanted to see it was after Paul beat Margarito in 2007, but Floyd had agreed to fight Ricky Hatton at that time, the bigger and better fight anyways. No one who isn't a Middleweight is obligated to fight Sergio.....true story. But Sergio is obligated to fight Golovkin....but why isn't that happening yet??? Both are on the same networks, same weight class, both have titles. Hmmmmm yet Sergio is being ducked by a guy who's 20 lbs lighter then him. That's classic sh*t right there. If Floyd is my "hero" who I'll defend to no end, which isn't true as I've criticized him for Marquez initially and was getting ready to if he fought Khan next......then what is Manny who you've never said one bad thing against, and have absolutely no rebuttal for him only fighting one legit opponent the last 4 years or so now??? If you really think Floyd should fight Sergio, the MW champion since 2010, then should Manny, who was also called out by Sergio several times??? No, neither of them should.

12y ago

ADP02

You keep listing Sergio as if Floyd is supposed to fight him....he's the Middleweight Champion currently avoiding his biggest threat, Golovkin. Tell Sergio to fight people in his weight class. Williams, I addressed that, but you were probably too thick to see that part. He got his first legit win in July 2007, Floyd then fought Hatton, the bigger and better fight at the time. Paul proceeded to drop a decision to Carlos Quintana in February 2008. So don't tell me people were clamoring for Mayweather-Williams in 2008, when that damn well wasn't true after he split with Quintana then moved up to 154. And Mosley didn't want to fight Floyd in 2006 or any time prior. That's been documented. Floyd still fought him while he was #3 P4P and the #1/2 WW in the world coming off a huge win. You're right, Manny probably didn't say it directly. He only ever says "Talk to my promoter Bob Arum" on who he's fighting. His trainer, who speaks largely fr his entire his team at times, openly said they wouldn't fight Mosley at any other weight aside from 143, then turned around and fought him coming off a one sided loss to Floyd and draw with Mora. Floyd also still got Cotto when he was #1 at 154, not prime but still good. What's laughable is you have such bad things to say about Floyd but openly defend Manny and never criticize, ever. Manny has fought one legit opponent since Cotto and Clottey...Tim Bradley. Marquez at WW was never supposed to be legit. Pac-JMM 4 was only big because of the debacle that was Pac-JMM 3. Pac fighting Margarito and Mosley at the times he did was a joke, as was Rios coming off a clear loss to Alvarado. Bradley 2 is a good fight, but it's the same opponent he already beat in the eyes of damn near everyone 2 years ago. Meanwhile the guy you're hating on has fought Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto, Guerrero, Canelo, and now Maidana....all legit fights when he fought them, since. I'd call it like I see it. Floyd fighting Marquez in 2009 was a joke, I only ever gave Floyd a little bit of credit after seeing Marquez do a number on Manny at WW. Floyd fighting Khan before doing anything significant again would be a joke. This is a thread about Floyd's past not current situation. It should be obvious because I'm always bringing up the past. Yet you bring up current Martinez. Martinez called out Floyd many times over the past 5 years. At the time, Martinez could have fought at 154 easily. People were calling for that fight if Manny fight didn't happen. Floyd's team said No to Martinez fight and no it wasn't because of your silly excuse! It was the "money" excuse" :lol1: BTW, Floyd has fought many opponents who just had 0, 1 or 2 fights at 147. Yet, I'm sure you considered them opponents legit, right .... but to protect Floyd, who has been #1 P4P and has fought at 154 prior to being called out, you will say just about anything. Crazy stuff! Williams: Yes, people wanted to see Floyd fight Williams. Much more than Guerrero, Maidana, Khan, ..... you know, the guys YOU, YES YOU keep on telling me are legit fights.....AGAIN, you will say just about anything to protect your hero Floyd. BTW, AGAIN, Floyd ALREADY fought at 154. Secondly, Williams moved up to 154 because he wanted to get fights but told everyone that he can come back down to 147, easily! Mosley: Funny how you say "but so and so was at 154, so don't blame Floyd". Well, Mosley was fighting at 154 in 2004, 2005 and 2006. While Floyd was fighting at 140 then moved up to 147 and wanted to fight someone there. So why are you blaming Mosley again if you don't see it that way for Floyd? Coming back to "Mosley didn't want Floyd", Really? It was documented in 2006 that after the Vargas II fight, Mosley wanted to come down to 147 to fight Floyd, Cotto, .... Mosley had said that if Floyd really wanted Mosley all he had to do is wait a month or two and Mosley would be OK with that. Just ask yourself why wouldn't Floyd wait a couple of months so he can have Mosley in his resume, considering that Floyd had said that he was getting ready to retire? There are video clips of Mosley wanting Floyd in 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010. Once Mosley spoke louder about wanting Floyd, there are video clips of Floyd NOT wanting Mosley, in 2007-2009. So ask yourself, did Floyd really want to fight Mosley? Not until Floyd himself said that Mosley is now OLD!

12y ago

Holywarrior

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PainLucy

that's what we call careful matchmaking

12y ago

I_Love_Jesus

Thats the thing flowmos don't understand. Mayweathers ducking and dodging reputation isn't just because of Pacquiao. He's always been a cherry picker

12y ago

theface07

Floyd has a lot of bad karma in his corner that has just been building since his fame has grown and he became a title contender. With the latest news of his reported criminal charges, hopefully it will all come back in his face. He does nothing good for boxing. He only does good for himself.

12y ago

Johnwoo8686

Here's a good question, how would Floyd have survived the prime DLH, Trinidad, Mosely, Forrest welterweight era (which obviously sh*ts all over this one)? Assuming he doesn't avoid them all of course... I think a young Floyd has his toughest time with Vernon Forest and Oscar. Young Floyd beats young Mosley and Tito by decision. Shane always had problems with technical boxers especially guys who could match him for hand speed. He looked his best against guys who were slow and not very technically skilled e.g. Margarito and Mayorga. Tito is another guy who had issues with movers because he relied too heavily on the left hook and didn't offer much else when he couldn't land it. A young Oscar and young Vernon Forrest would be Floyd's toughest tests.

12y ago

BafanaBafana

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lebrick

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4Corners

Floyd said it himself that he is not interested since Cotto will not bring him big money :lol1::lol1: I doubt you will find Manny saying that about Cotto because its a joke! I'm more than certain that you took part in threads between Floyd/Manny between 2009 to today, right? You know, with the same Arum and same Floyd, right? What's the difference? Wasn't Floyd serious at some points, according to Floyd fans? Again, stop with the excuses. Floyd could have just said the truth if what you said was such a big deal back then. You know, just like Floyd is able to say now that Floyd doesn't want to do business with Arum. I'm not saying that it would be easy to get a deal done but if you think that Floyd really wanted to seriously fight Manny back in 2009 then what you said is irrelevant. If you think that Floyd was just putting roadblocks and never had any intentions to fight Manny then I'm OK with your response! The key is Floyd's response and the time period. Cotto was undefeated and prime. Ironically, Floyd had a similar response for Margarito, Mosley, Williams, Sergio Martinez, and so on ..... so again, not all TR fighters and again, just an excuse from a Floyd fan! :lol1: :lol1: You keep listing Sergio as if Floyd is supposed to fight him....he's the Middleweight Champion currently avoiding his biggest threat, Golovkin. Tell Sergio to fight people in his weight class. Williams, I addressed that, but you were probably too thick to see that part. He got his first legit win in July 2007, Floyd then fought Hatton, the bigger and better fight at the time. Paul proceeded to drop a decision to Carlos Quintana in February 2008. So don't tell me people were clamoring for Mayweather-Williams in 2008, when that damn well wasn't true after he split with Quintana then moved up to 154. And Mosley didn't want to fight Floyd in 2006 or any time prior. That's been documented. Floyd still fought him while he was #3 P4P and the #1/2 WW in the world coming off a huge win. You're right, Manny probably didn't say it directly. He only ever says "Talk to my promoter Bob Arum" on who he's fighting. His trainer, who speaks largely fr his entire his team at times, openly said they wouldn't fight Mosley at any other weight aside from 143, then turned around and fought him coming off a one sided loss to Floyd and draw with Mora. Floyd also still got Cotto when he was #1 at 154, not prime but still good. What's laughable is you have such bad things to say about Floyd but openly defend Manny and never criticize, ever. Manny has fought one legit opponent since Cotto and Clottey...Tim Bradley. Marquez at WW was never supposed to be legit. Pac-JMM 4 was only big because of the debacle that was Pac-JMM 3. Pac fighting Margarito and Mosley at the times he did was a joke, as was Rios coming off a clear loss to Alvarado. Bradley 2 is a good fight, but it's the same opponent he already beat in the eyes of damn near everyone 2 years ago. Meanwhile the guy you're hating on has fought Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto, Guerrero, Canelo, and now Maidana....all legit fights when he fought them, since. I'd call it like I see it. Floyd fighting Marquez in 2009 was a joke, I only ever gave Floyd a little bit of credit after seeing Marquez do a number on Manny at WW. Floyd fighting Khan before doing anything significant again would be a joke.

12y ago

sugarsmosley

1998-2000: 130 Mayweather v. Casamayor: Mayweather MD Mayweather v. Freitas: Mayweather UD Mayweather v Johnston: Mayweather UD 135: Mayweather v. Mosley (1999-2000): Mosley TKO5 2004-2005: 140: Mayweather v. Tzsyu: Mayweather UD 2006-2012: 147: Mayweather v. Forrest (2005-07): Mayweather/Forrest SD Mayweather v. Margarito (2005-09): Mayweather MD/Margarito TKO10 Mayweather v. Cotto (2006-08): Mayweather MD Mayweather v. Williams (2006-08): Mayweather MD/SD or Williams SD Mayweather v. Pacquiao (2008-2012): Mayweather MD/SD 154: Mayweather v.Wright (2006-08): Mayweather/Wright SD Mayweather v. Forrest (2007-09): Forrest MD/SD Mayweather v. Williams (2008-10): Williams SD/MD/UD Mayweather v. Martinez (2007-10): Martinez SD/MD or TKO10 160: Mayweather v. Martinez (2010-12): Martinez UD/MD/TKO8 2012-present: 154: Mayweather v. Lara (2012-14): Mayweather/Lara MD or SD Mayweather v. Trout (2012-14): Mayweather UD/MD Mayweather v. Andrade (2014): Mayweather UD/MD this is an interesting list you have here, i definitely dream of a prime shane - prime floyd. imagine that fight at lightweight... a man can only dream!

12y ago

BafanaBafana

Sorry: Casamayor, Freitas, Johnson, Mosley (prime), Kostya Tszyu, Prime Cotto, Margarito, Paul Williams, Winky Wright, Pacqiuao , Sergio Martinez. 1998-2000: 130 Mayweather v. Casamayor: Mayweather MD Mayweather v. Freitas: Mayweather UD Mayweather v Johnston: Mayweather UD 135: Mayweather v. Mosley (1999-2000): Mosley TKO5 2004-2005: 140: Mayweather v. Tzsyu: Mayweather UD 2006-2012: 147: Mayweather v. Forrest (2005-07): Mayweather/Forrest SD Mayweather v. Margarito (2005-09): Mayweather MD/Margarito TKO10 Mayweather v. Cotto (2006-08): Mayweather MD Mayweather v. Williams (2006-08): Mayweather MD/SD or Williams SD Mayweather v. Pacquiao (2008-2012): Mayweather MD/SD 154: Mayweather v.Wright (2006-08): Mayweather/Wright SD Mayweather v. Forrest (2007-09): Forrest MD/SD Mayweather v. Williams (2008-10): Williams SD/MD/UD Mayweather v. Martinez (2007-10): Martinez SD/MD or TKO11 160: Mayweather v. Martinez (2010-12): Martinez UD/MD/TKO8 2012-present: 154: Mayweather v. Lara (2012-14): Mayweather/Lara MD or SD Mayweather v. Trout (2012-14): Mayweather UD/MD Mayweather v. Andrade (2014): Mayweather UD/MD

12y ago

ADP02

And someone else could post stuff where Manny was saying he wasn't interested in fighting Mosley or where Roach and all them only would fight Shane at 143....... The fact is Floyd fought Cotto while he was #1 at 154, and not prime, but still good. If you really believe Floyd and Arums relationship had zero to do with that fight not happening in 2007-2008, then you must be challenged. Floyd said it himself that he is not interested since Cotto will not bring him big money :lol1::lol1: I doubt you will find Manny saying that about Cotto because its a joke! I'm more than certain that you took part in threads between Floyd/Manny between 2009 to today, right? You know, with the same Arum and same Floyd, right? What's the difference? Wasn't Floyd serious at some points, according to Floyd fans? Again, stop with the excuses. Floyd could have just said the truth if what you said was such a big deal back then. You know, just like Floyd is able to say now that Floyd doesn't want to do business with Arum. I'm not saying that it would be easy to get a deal done but if you think that Floyd really wanted to seriously fight Manny back in 2009 then what you said is irrelevant. If you think that Floyd was just putting roadblocks and never had any intentions to fight Manny then I'm OK with your response! The key is Floyd's response and the time period. Cotto was undefeated and prime. Ironically, Floyd had a similar response for Margarito, Mosley, Williams, Sergio Martinez, and so on ..... so again, not all TR fighters and again, just an excuse from a Floyd fan! :lol1: :lol1:

12y ago

Biolink

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12y ago

big_james10

Mayweather misses eleven threatening opportunities to fight viable opponents (the most in boxing history) since 1999.POUND-FOR-POUND, I was watching boxing in 1999 and I can say without a doubt that this is al. bullsh.t written by a hater who doesn't have a clue what he is talking about. It is not even worth a response.

12y ago

4Corners

cotto has got some balls tho, gotta admit. if he beats martinez* sh*t would be legendary No doubt. If Cotto beats Martinez, he's a legit Hall of Fame fighter. Right now, he'll get in, but he's borderline in reality.

12y ago

4Corners

Here is more facts. Floyd Mayweather is NOT interested in a fight with Cotto 2007-12-16 http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-cotto-knows-he-t-beat-me--11721 And someone else could post stuff where Manny was saying he wasn't interested in fighting Mosley or where Roach and all them only would fight Shane at 143....... The fact is Floyd fought Cotto while he was #1 at 154, and not prime, but still good. If you really believe Floyd and Arums relationship had zero to do with that fight not happening in 2007-2008, then you must be challenged.

12y ago

Kuyukut

what's new... that's fraud jr legacy. he'll be remembered as the best ducker of all time. can you imagine 10 years from now, fraud will be remembered not only as the best ducker of all time but also the most boring fighter that ever laced a boxing glove. he'll be the laughing stock of boxing fans. :lol1:

12y ago

Beto_El_Lobo

ill read this article while im taking a sh1t That's exactly what I'm doing...

12y ago

ADP02

Here is more facts. Floyd Mayweather is NOT interested in a fight with Cotto 2007-12-16 http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-cotto-knows-he-t-beat-me--11721

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