Rd 1: 10-9 Garcia. Pretty clear Garcia round.
Rd 2: 19-19 Even. Close round, could see people scoring it for Garcia
Rd 3: 29-28 Herrera. Nobody really did anything, Herr a just enough.
Rd 4: 38-38 Even. Close round, no problem if someone scored it Herrera.
Rd 5: 48-47 Herrera.
Rd 6: 57-57 Even. Danny out worked him, strong jab in closing seconds didn't steal round for Herrera IMO
Rd 7: 67-66 Herrera. Clear Herrera round, easiest round to score since 1st.
Rd 8: 77-75 Herrera. I guess I could see people scoring this round for Garcia but it is kind of a stretch.
Rd 9: 87-84 Herrera.
Rd 10: 96-94 Herrera. Effective flurries and counters in second half of round take it for Garcia.
Rd 11: 105-104 Herrera. Clear Garcia round.
Rd 12: 115-113 Herrera. Clear Herrera round.
I scored it for Herrera, but I can see a draw or even a Garcia win. Bad cards from those two judges although we should all be used to seeing lopsided cards.
I quit scoring fights a long time ago and I enjoy the sport a lot more, I used to be really into it but it just got me into stupid arguments with people who I felt were just looking at the surface and not really scoring as a judge would. Then there is the whole group think thing and if most people are scoring in a lackadaisical way it just feeds itself, so putting in effort to actually judge a fight properly was always wasted effort and worse made me put in effort to try and explain my point of view to people who are totally not receptive.
However I know close rounds when I see them and when you have rounds that are close or even fairly close for that matter the subjective element of judging comes in and people can see the same thing very differently.
i'm with you, homie. scoring fights is almost like work.
i watch boxing because i enjoy the hell out of it. scoring a fight, and focusing entirely on scoring during live broadcasts, takes away from my entertainment. i watch most of the big fights several times over the course of the following weeks, and if i feel the need, i'll produce a scorecard.
7-5 Garcia.
I prefer Garcia's 150 vs 80 power punches, rather than Herrera's jab advantage.
With that said, Herrera came to fight(and hold a lot), but I thought Garcia won 7-5.
Can we get a verdict on the Mayweather vs. Castillo 1 fight?
I'll accept your bet if the fight isn't in Puerto Rico.
LMAO..I doubt it will be..I'll except ya bet as long as the fight is not in Washington..LMAO..
I'm just joking..I did not think either fight was a robbery,although last night(Garcia fight)one of the judges was way off..
I'd take that bet..I also would love to see that fight..In all honesty this fight should be next for Garcia..He should not move up to 147lb with this kinda fight on his mind..
I'll accept your bet if the fight isn't in Puerto Rico.
Before this fight, I said it was a 60/40 fight in favor of Garcia, but now I think Peterson beats him.
I'd take that bet..I also would love to see that fight..In all honesty this fight should be next for Garcia..He should not move up to 147lb with this kinda fight on his mind..
i wrote a poem for DSG
I'm coming home
Coming home
Tell the world I'm coming home
Let the judges, look away
While im being jabbed, all f*cking day
10/10, nominating for a Pulitzer.
i have not scored it yet. i rarely score live fights. i try and enjoy myself to the best of my ability, and that means no scoring. if you want to score a fight, you need complete focus on scoring throughout the rounds. you can't just watch the round and decide who you think won at the end. you need to approach the entire round in terms of who is winning.
the only thing i'll say / go about about idly with scoring is calling a round close. you don't need to be scoring a fight explicitly to call a round close. you need to be scoring it to say who won close rounds.
i may score this one soon to see what my card looks like. my feeling is that there were several close rounds, and that it's certainly not out of the question that herrera won. he looked like he had a greater measure of control over what was going down.
herrera wasn't completely dominating. people who are asserting that are either biased, or idiots. you score the effectiveness of the punches in a boxing match. you ask "who did more damage in that round?" by that criteria, a light puncher like herrera is at a disadvantage. you need to be doing a lot more, being better defensively and scoring at a markedly geater frequency, to be winning a fight. it's not out of the question that herrera was doing both of those things.
herrera's punches were mostly arm punches. his best punch was his jab. he pushes his right hand, and it has very little power. "arm punches" mean he's not using his feet to dig into the ground, and his hips to generate explosiveness / leverage. three of those shots can be less damaging than one right hand that's properly leveraged with a pivot on the back foot, and leverage through the hips. an arm punch will rarely end a fight. a right hand with leverage can end a fight.
many of danny's punches were missing, or at least being rolled or absorbed on the elbows and gloves. when he did land, it was usually only one shot at once. herrera's defense was good enough to keep danny from putting twos and threes on him. no consistently big shots from danny, no / very few combinations.
we have to ask "were herrera's more prolific and more accurate arm punches more effective than danny's few power shots?"
again, i'm leaning toward yes, but i haven't scored any rounds yet.
I quit scoring fights a long time ago and I enjoy the sport a lot more, I used to be really into it but it just got me into stupid arguments with people who I felt were just looking at the surface and not really scoring as a judge would. Then there is the whole group think thing and if most people are scoring in a lackadaisical way it just feeds itself, so putting in effort to actually judge a fight properly was always wasted effort and worse made me put in effort to try and explain my point of view to people who are totally not receptive.
However I know close rounds when I see them and when you have rounds that are close or even fairly close for that matter the subjective element of judging comes in and people can see the same thing very differently.
yea its a wrap man... i mean yes he KO'd khan, but khan is khan. ill leave it to that lol.
stylistically, matthysse is made for danny but anyone else, i dont think he can bang with after this.
i think donaire even beats him.
Do you think Peterson beats him??
Garcia is done..he can't beat any viable opponent from here on out. Thurman, Peterson, Guerrero, Mayweather, Maidana...it's a wrap.
yea its a wrap man... i mean yes he KO'd khan, but khan is khan. ill leave it to that lol.
stylistically, matthysse is made for danny but anyone else, i dont think he can bang with after this.
i think donaire even beats him.
i have not scored it yet. i rarely score live fights. i try and enjoy myself to the best of my ability, and that means no scoring. if you want to score a fight, you need complete focus on scoring throughout the rounds. you can't just watch the round and decide who you think won at the end. you need to approach the entire round in terms of who is winning.
the only thing i'll say / go about about idly with scoring is calling a round close. you don't need to be scoring a fight explicitly to call a round close. you need to be scoring it to say who won close rounds.
i may score this one soon to see what my card looks like. my feeling is that there were several close rounds, and that it's certainly not out of the question that herrera won. he looked like he had a greater measure of control over what was going down.
herrera wasn't completely dominating. people who are asserting that are either biased, or idiots. you score the effectiveness of the punches in a boxing match. you ask "who did more damage in that round?" by that criteria, a light puncher like herrera is at a disadvantage. you need to be doing a lot more, being better defensively and scoring at a markedly geater frequency, to be winning a fight. it's not out of the question that herrera was doing both of those things.
herrera's punches were mostly arm punches. his best punch was his jab. he pushes his right hand, and it has very little power. "arm punches" mean he's not using his feet to dig into the ground, and his hips to generate explosiveness / leverage. three of those shots can be less damaging than one right hand that's properly leveraged with a pivot on the back foot, and leverage through the hips. an arm punch will rarely end a fight. a right hand with leverage can end a fight.
many of danny's punches were missing, or at least being rolled or absorbed on the elbows and gloves. when he did land, it was usually only one shot at once. herrera's defense was good enough to keep danny from putting twos and threes on him. no consistently big shots from danny, no / very few combinations.
we have to ask "were herrera's more prolific and more accurate arm punches more effective than danny's few power shots?"
again, i'm leaning toward yes, but i haven't scored any rounds yet.
Did u watch the fight? The crowd to me swayed the judges.Garcia didnt land all those power punches.Garcia and his dad's face at the end of the fight tells u all u need to know.Also the ring announcers all had it for Herrera.
Those power shots didnt even connect.I had it 116-112 herrera.Herrera dictacted the fight with the jab.Garcia did not do enough to keep the belts.
Surely this is a gross exaggeration how can you say none landed?
7-5 for Garcia.Danny landed 150 power shots vs. 82 from Herrera. I feel that the body shots from Garcia won him the fight , I only recall jabs to the body coming from Herrera ; most of Herrera's damage came from the jab.