Al Haymon is Another Bob Arum

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Haymon and scheffer are just trying to be bob Arum.

Then hed have grounds to complain but somehow hasnt. Perhaps 10m was for the rematch in case he won? However he lost wide in the court of public opinion, and these guys underwrite ppvs. Do you honestly think 10m is his market value? Thats more than Cotto got vs Floyd and far higher than Jmms career high Bottom line! He had a $10M contract for a rematch, no ifs or buts sorry, am there for the boxers that get hit not for the promoters.

He had a signed contract for $10M but he is getting paid $6M, that's Arum for you in a nutshell. Then hed have grounds to complain but somehow hasnt. Perhaps 10m was for the rematch in case he won? However he lost wide in the court of public opinion, and these guys underwrite ppvs. Do you honestly think 10m is his market value? Thats more than Cotto got vs Floyd and far higher than Jmms career high

Bradley's getting 6 million dollars to fight Pacquiao. So, more money than Ortiz and Guerrero combined. He had a signed contract for $10M but he is getting paid $6M, that's Arum for you in a nutshell.

Arum takes advantage of the public perception that he is a villain. He knows how to make controversial statements and drum up discussion, even if a lot of it is against him. Arum's job is to sell fights, and he'll sell more fights if people are talking about them. Haymon doesn't benefit from people talking about him. He would rather stay opaque and have people guess at what he is doing. Whatever kind of business he's in, all anyone knows is that his fighters make a lot of money and get network TV dates. He's a manager; his job is to sell fighters. The two have different roles in the world of boxing.

You're making definitive statements (Quite common on NSB) .... What is your source??? Had to search .... Robert Guerrero had a $3 million Guarantee Ortiz had a $2 Million Guarantee Neither are with Haymon BTW. Maidana - Don't know .... (Is managed by Haymon) Bradley's getting 6 million dollars to fight Pacquiao. So, more money than Ortiz and Guerrero combined.

He makes people sign to him in order to get the great fights to happen, Bob Arum makes people extend or sign to him to get the great fights, these are the scum bags of boxing. This is basically blackmail. They serve different functions.Bob is a promoter, Al is a manager. TR develops fighters and makes money off promoting them. Haymon gets his fighters better dates and more money. both have doube degrees from Harvard (law for Arum, MBA for Haymon) and are extremely successful. other than that they are not really alike.

Al Haymon is pure scum.

Heres what i know, the old time greats who fought under arum havent said a negative thing about him. a few new generation boxers have. Fact is that they still make good money. As for Haymon, he gets his fighters good money but not neccesarily great fights, i.e. Berto, too many showcase fights for too much money, his fighters were mostly under gb was part of the reason hbo kicked them to the curb

I don't think so. Arum and Shaffer are similar both promoters but in my opinion Arums more of a POS is biased and cares more about himself and $$$ then his fighters or the fans and does some pretty sheisty shiz towards his fighters and the fans But Arums been In it long time represented some of the best all time and knows what he's doing and if you get past his BS he drops knowledge , some of his interviews are pretty informative. Haymon never gives his opinion all he does is get his fighters paid and more then they would with any other promoter/advisor or what ever the f()ck his title. He gets his fighters in prime spots on TV against top competition. Fighters only seem to praise Haymon. I mean he got Rodriguez 1 mil against Ward u relative unknown twice as much as GGG gets for his fights. There might a lot of negative things about Haymon but it never seems to reach the public. But if I was a fighter and had to choose between the 2 I'd pick Haymon.

a 25 year old boxer career is wasted? Not in the sense he is talking. But Gary Russell Jr hasn't fought anyone. Look at all the young fighters, hell even Adrien Broner fought and loss when he upped his game. Canelo is a former world champion. Danny Garcia current world champion. He has accomplished nothing in other words and he is no different to many other fighters.

Haymon doesnt have 1/10th the power arum does. look at wasted career of Russel is solely Haymon. a 25 year old boxer career is wasted?

Bradley will next make more money than Guerrero and Maidana got for fighting Floyd, combined You're making definitive statements (Quite common on NSB) .... What is your source??? Had to search .... Robert Guerrero had a $3 million Guarantee Ortiz had a $2 Million Guarantee Neither are with Haymon BTW. Maidana - Don't know .... (Is managed by Haymon)

Bradley will next make more money than Guerrero and Maidana got for fighting Floyd, combined thats what i am saying. He got almost as much for the first manny fight as guerrero and ortiz got combined for floyd. Clottey even got as much fighting manny as guerrero got for floyd. i don't get all this talk about these companies not paying great. if they didn't no one would sign or sign extensions. Even Alvarado held out and got like 1.3mil for Provodnikov. That is pretty good money IMO. It is more than paulie and zab got combined for their fight if you look at that perspective or more than double what lara and trout got combined for their fight

Bradley just appointed his wife as his manager .... Which was a not-so-bright move BTW. And if he were to slam the deal he got with TR, then in essence he would also be slamming the incompetence of his wife. That's why you do not make your wife an over-night manager and put her in the room with Arum to negotiate contractual deals. :nutkick: So, I wouldn't put too much stock into what Bradley states outside of the boxing ring. Bradley will next make more money than Guerrero and Maidana got for fighting Floyd, combined

Tim Bradley said hes thankful for the tons of money he has made from Top Rank. I think Pac gives a lot of his money away and doesn't invest it right Bradley just appointed his wife as his manager .... Which was a not-so-bright move BTW. And if he were to slam the deal he got with TR, then in essence he would also be slamming the incompetence of his wife. That's why you do not make your wife an over-night manager and put her in the room with Arum to negotiate contractual deals. :nutkick: So, I wouldn't put too much stock into what Bradley states outside of the boxing ring.

NO comparison between the two ... As already stated, one is a Manager and the other is a Promoter. In this case, the Manager is put in place to ensure the Promoter doesn't screw over the Boxer contractually. Haymon is on his clients side and he works for them, that's why his clients take home more of the accumulated revenue. Because he prevents the Promoter from hogging all the profits and keeping it within the promotional company. In the case of Arum, he is acting as both Promoter and Manager for his contracted fighters. And IMHO he is robbing them blind. I wished Pac had the intestinal fortitude to leave Arum, because he is the one being screwed over the most. Finally: Boxer's that have Haymon as management will tell you straight up that Haymon's got their back and that's why so many are starting to flock to him. Arum is just a lighter tanned Don King. Tim Bradley said hes thankful for the tons of money he has made from Top Rank. I think Pac gives a lot of his money away and doesn't invest it right

Haymon doesnt have 1/10th the power arum does. look at wasted career of Russel is solely Haymon. Ask Andre Dirrell

Do you know the difference between a promoter and a manager? Holy shyt. NVM I see hes finally banned. Clear trolling alt.