And they have to be ranked in the top 10 in their weight class.
Marco Antonio Rubio 58-6-1 - 65 fights
Wladimir Klitchsko 61-3 - 64 fights
Bernard Hopkins 54-6-2 - 64 fights
Juan Manuel Marquez 55-7-1 - 63 fights
Johnny Gonzalez 55-8 - 63 fights
Manny Pacquiao 55-5-2 - 62 fights
Fernando Montiel 50-4-2 - 56 fights
Sergio Martinez - 52-2-2 - 55 fights
Oleydong Sithsamerchai 52-1-1 - 54 fights
Posters such as this guy need to be rid of.
His post started fine then he just drifted. Completely baiting.
I agree with Pacquiao, Hopkins then followed by Klinchko.
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Not to defend that moron but it's funny how you call someone Klinchko considering Hopkins clinches much more than Wlad.
Are you on your meds posting on here again?
Says the Cotto fan. Don't you guys go into hibernation every time after he gets his ass whooped?
Cotto/Trinidad.....Hmmm similarities with the flag there sir.
You're one of the blind fans so you have no room to talk.
Posters such as this guy need to be rid of.
His post started fine then he just drifted. Completely baiting.
I agree with Pacquiao, Hopkins then followed by Klinchko.
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Baiting? When your the only one to take the "bait"?..shows where you stand...alone. The worm on the hook should be ignored.
Marquez is a beast and has to be number 1.
Martinez had a late run , not too fond of him but respect him.
Kilt. Gets a notable mention but the hugging and competition kill it.
And of course tied for first has to be the executioner. Great comp and longevity...he's a professor.
I like Pac but honestly it's like trying to get Mcquire and Bonds into the hall of fame.....there is good reason to believe he used PEDs whether true or not I believe his legacy is tainted.
Posters such as this guy need to be rid of.
His post started fine then he just drifted. Completely baiting.
I agree with Pacquiao, Hopkins then followed by Klinchko.
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Completely disagree, he looked worse than he ever had, he was very slow, he managed to land an amazing ounch but other than that he didn't look good at all.
Well, he was older and heavier than years prior, Ruben, so none of that comes as a surprise. What I was referring to was JMM's physical appearance, and the fact that he knocked Pac down twice...once for all time. Even at his zenith, Marquez never managed to put Manny down.
I voted Pacquiao in spite of his loss to Marquez. Pacquiao looked better in the Rios fight than Marquez looked against Bradley. I think he would beat Marquez now and I think he will beat Bradley. I don't think Rubio has any reason to be on your list.He is just a pretty good fighter but not in the same class with the others.
Thanks. Again I'm not knocking Pac but I think sometimes guy like or admire a person so much (fighter or not) that they see what the want.
Ask any fan if they believe Pacs run was extra ordinary and they will say yes. Ask them if it warrants a closer look. They will say no.
I'm formerly from NY and many fans of Giambi would defend him, Arod too, forget about the long list of Dominican players that were busted and all their fans swore on it.... Their clean...lol . Love blinds in any sport and boxing is no exception. Especially when your a hardcore fan.
Says the Trinidad fan. :lol1:
Completely disagree, he looked worse than he ever had, he was very slow, he managed to land an amazing ounch but other than that he didn't look good at all.
he looked slower/sluggish because he was packing more roid muscle....
for example, marquez went ultra super saiyan (thanks to heredia roids)..more power and muscle but less speed...
39 year old men don't usually get better, they get worse. JMM looked and performed better than he ever did versus Pac by a mile. Sure, Manny walked into a perfect counter and got KTFO, but Marquez never even knocked Pacquiao down in over thirty six previous rounds. All of a sudden, at age 39, he manages to knock Manny down twice in the same fight, the second by spectacular fashion. I would say that is all extraordinary. Of course, Pac's career has also been extraordinary. lol
Completely disagree, he looked worse than he ever had, he was very slow, he managed to land an amazing ounch but other than that he didn't look good at all.
Thanks. Again I'm not knocking Pac but I think sometimes guy like or admire a person so much (fighter or not) that they see what the want.
Ask any fan if they believe Pacs run was extra ordinary and they will say yes. Ask them if it warrants a closer look. They will say no.
I'm formerly from NY and many fans of Giambi would defend him, Arod too, forget about the long list of Dominican players that were busted and all their fans swore on it.... Their clean...lol . Love blinds in any sport and boxing is no exception. Especially when your a hardcore fan.
Yeah, love blinds. lol
I'm a big baseball fan. Once I realized how many great players were juicing, I realized that even the guys who appear clean aren't necessarily so. Even a guy like Jeter, whom, as a Yankee fan I love, might've used PEDs in the past. It's always the power guys that get scrutinized, both in boxing and in baseball. PEDs do more than just make you look like the Incredible Hulk and crush everything in sight.
I'd say Wlad, Sergio, Pacquiao in any order followed by bhop. Pacquiao and Sergio are at a spot right now where losing to almost any top guy in their division would not be surprising though Martinez gets a nod over Pac for me personally due to the clear size disadvantages hes faced from top guys in his class... B Hop could lose to almost anyone at this stage imo... I still dont see anyone beating Wladimir...
Pac did the same thing. Started crushing bigger guys, moving up weights, looking questionable.. Simply put. He was doing the extraordinary. The word is fitting because EXTRA ORDINARY means not normal. THATS why. .That is nothing but a perpetrated myth. Roach had him using his jab more and setting up his punches better, straighter, and less looping and his two biggest KO's were against face first Hatton and Diaz. Two out of Pac's last 8 fights have ended in KO. Mayweather also had a big KO against Hatton and even Holt knocked out Diaz. All the BS Mayweather launched that questioned Pac only convinced simple-minded people with an agenda.
Agreed to all. Hopkins successfully fighting at a championship level at nearly 50 is also extraordinary. Also, we mustn't forget that there are different kinds of PEDs, not just steroids. They affect human performance in different ways, not always in the most obvious fashion.
Thanks. Again I'm not knocking Pac but I think sometimes guy like or admire a person so much (fighter or not) that they see what the want.
Ask any fan if they believe Pacs run was extra ordinary and they will say yes. Ask them if it warrants a closer look. They will say no.
I'm formerly from NY and many fans of Giambi would defend him, Arod too, forget about the long list of Dominican players that were busted and all their fans swore on it.... Their clean...lol . Love blinds in any sport and boxing is no exception. Especially when your a hardcore fan.
Absolutely. Hear, hear!
39 year old men don't usually get better, they get worse. JMM looked and performed better than he ever did versus Pac by a mile. Sure, Manny walked into a perfect counter and got KTFO, but Marquez never even knocked Pacquiao down in over thirty six previous rounds. All of a sudden, at age 39, he manages to knock Manny down twice in the same fight, the second by spectacular fashion. I would say that is all extraordinary. Of course, Pac's career has also been extraordinary. lol
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