Let us make no bones about it, Orlando Salido won last night and in my opinion, won rather decisively, 116-112. Having said that, he (Salido) failed to make weight and made no attempt to lose any of the extra baggage and then came in at a whopping 146lb for a featherweight contest. Salido is supposed to be the longstanding professional but the only professional behaviour was exhibited by the young Ukrainian.
I know many fighters who would have refused to get in the ring unless Salido tried to lose some weight or they would have asked for a re-hydration clause, yet Lomachenko, the two time Olympic gold medalist did neither. What he did do was attempt something most fighters would not even dare to contemplate: win a world title from a seasoned champion in only his second pro fight.
The way he went about it was amateurish but that was to be expected. He was not as active as he should have been, maybe if he had thrown more, he would have won more rounds and possibly the fight. It was obvious that when the Ukrainian was throwing, he was almost always landing, so sharp and accurate were his punches. Salido, the wiley old champion, was landing too, big, big shots and yet Lomachenko showed a great chin, barely flinching.
There is also the question of the body shots and low blows, never once did Lomachenko complain or make faces at the referee, that to me was the most endearing aspect. In terms of the referee, he has a terrible night, he quite clearly saw some of the low blows yet refused to do anything about it. Why?
Somewhere down the line there maybe a rematch and I for one would love to see it but first, the amateur great needs more professional rounds under his belt, there is quite clearly something great lurking beneath the surface.
After seeing his 2nd pro fight made me a Lomachenko fan as well. He got skills but lacks pro experience. Give him a couple of tune-ups so he can tap and sharpen his hidden talents.
Eventually, he’ll mature as a fighter and be a force to reckon with.
Hopefully you are right. I liked him and thought he showed a lot of heart with the cards stacked against him. Is he the second coming of SRL? Probably not, but I look forward to seeing his next fight.
Well im on the fence about how long, or if ever he will be translate his amateur great effective style to be competitive at the top pro level. He also seemed a little jittery maybe nerves got to him? Which is very fking weird with a guy who has fought everybody you would expect him to be like Rigo against everyone like this -____- but he looked kind of puzzled and jittery I lost some bets, but i cant say that i thought what happened was impossible Salido is a rough guy.
Lomenchenko was as boring if not mroe than rigidoux, at least rigidoux fires back alot.
Rigondeaux is a counter puncher who guys get shy against when they get hit back he is not offensive minded unless he hurts a guy, if guys dont throw it can get dull, but everyone here hyped Lomachenko as this offensive unstoppable machine, and that was not the case that's why it was boring. The guy is not done tho he is young and hopefully can take a step back and away from the hype and work in his pro style longer.
You already know why, this is boxing. Cole was there to help facilitate a Salido win just like Ramos was there to facilitate a Chavez win.
Who was hiring Cole to help facilitate a Salido win? Top Rank were clearly positioning Lomachenko to be their next big star, so why have him lose on the biggest stage? It makes no sense. I just think it was complete incompetence.
I have never been a fan nor was I inclined to last night, however, I respect his effort. I loved the way he gave it his all during that 12th round. Also, you just have to respect the fact that he decided not to ride out the hype wave longer and went straight for the real ones to test himself. I admire and respect that.
I am a Salido fan and I expected last night's outcome even though Salido looked his age last night. That was not the same Salido from the Juanma wars. However, I came out of it knowing Lomachenko is the superior fighter but he was lost last night due to his lack of experience. He was hesitant to throw and wasn't prepared for the scenarios he encountered last night.
Salido did his thing though, tough veteran fighter. He outworked Lomachenko.
Well balanced thoughts from a fan, good to see. Yes, Salido showed just how wiley he could be, he was dirty last night but he made it count.
I'm impressed with his attitude/mentality.
While I think he won, I'm not impressed with his skill yet. He has shown nothing to any extent that sets him apart from Contender/Paper champ status to being World Class.
If Lomachenko had won last night, would you view him as a paper champ?
Top Rank and Arum was trying too hard to make Lomochenko a star which I believe Lomo wanted the fight and make history so props to him and also he went the full 12 in his 2nd pro fight.
Salido being the spoiler said fvck Lomo, Top Rank and Arum. Came over weight on purpose because he knew he would of been stopped if he made 126lb which was everybody thought would of happen but Salido I won't be the sacrificial lamb and came in as a welterweight haha. I put some $$$ on Salido and it was easy $$$ especially after he didn't make weight
In fact, he did the opposite of complain. Maybe you had a hard time with the translation on the HBO telecast or something.
maybe i did take it the wrong way he was shrugging it off like fuk it
I'm impressed with his attitude/mentality.
While I think he won, I'm not impressed with his skill yet. He has shown nothing to any extent that sets him apart from Contender/Paper champ status to being World Class.
he was complaining after the fight like a little b1tch talking about how hes a clean fighter and loddi doddi ....but he made me a fan theres no way he should have won that fight but he did pretty good
In fact, he did the opposite of complain. Maybe you had a hard time with the translation on the HBO telecast or something.
It was a semi-impressive performance for only his second pro fight and he did come on really strong at the end but overall, the hype wagon was a little ahead of him from what I saw. He's not as skilled, fast or powerful as everyone made him out to be.
That said, to give a guy like Solido hell like that in his second pro fight says volumes about his learning curve and he can be a force if the proper steps are taken from here on out. Mikey G. would have sparked him last night.
I have never been a fan nor was I inclined to last night, however, I respect his effort. I loved the way he gave it his all during that 12th round. Also, you just have to respect the fact that he decided not to ride out the hype wave longer and went straight for the real ones to test himself. I admire and respect that.
I am a Salido fan and I expected last night's outcome even though Salido looked his age last night. That was not the same Salido from the Juanma wars. However, I came out of it knowing Lomachenko is the superior fighter but he was lost last night due to his lack of experience. He was hesitant to throw and wasn't prepared for the scenarios he encountered last night.
Salido did his thing though, tough veteran fighter. He outworked Lomachenko.
i'm also a fan (even more so after last night)...he fought well for only his second pro fight and showed a lot of class during and after the fight...salido is trash though (did everything in the book to cheat loma...wouldn't be surprised if he was roiding again either).
he was complaining after the fight like a little b1tch talking about how hes a clean fighter and loddi doddi ....but he made me a fan theres no way he should have won that fight but he did pretty good
That's not what happened. Kellerman asked him why he didn't punch Salido back in the balls like Orlando was doing to him, and Loma just said it's not something he does, he's a clean fighter. He didn't even complain about the low-blows during or after the fight, he just said "that's boxing".
Yep, i'm too now a big fan of Loma, he didn't complain or b!tch about the illegal blows. People who are gobbling on Salido's ballsack really a reality check. He came in as a Welterweight!? The guy is a disgrace to the sport. Can't believe he felt he needed to be a whole stone heavier in weight and fight so dirty to beat a guy who was relatively inexperienced at this level***8230; And even then he nearly got his ass handed to him towards the end of the fight.
he was complaining after the fight like a little b1tch talking about how hes a clean fighter and loddi doddi ....but he made me a fan theres no way he should have won that fight but he did pretty good
In terms of the referee, he has a terrible night, he quite clearly saw some of the low blows yet refused to do anything about it. Why?
You already know why, this is boxing. Cole was there to help facilitate a Salido win just like Ramos was there to facilitate a Chavez win.
After seeing his 2nd pro fight made me a Lomachenko fan as well. He got skills but lacks pro experience. Give him a couple of tune-ups so he can tap and sharpen his hidden talents.
Eventually, he’ll mature as a fighter and be a force to reckon with.
I agree with all of you haha
It was an ugly win for Salido and one we will look back on and cringe, the refereeing almost as bad as Smoger in Hopkins/Murat. But also it showed that Salido hates being the B side and his achievements in the ring should be recognised.
Lomachenko on the other hand, lost the match but probably won the hearts of many, many boxing fans. He can be very good, he just needs the right guidance and his warrior spirit is truly a breath of fresh air in 21st century boxing.
I might add a poll, just to see what many of you here think.
Getting the W or the L is not everything in boxing.
Salido won, but that was one of the ugliest wins I've seen in a long time.
Big respect to Lomachenko, he showed a lot of heart at the end of the fight and was respectful in his defeat.
Yep, i'm too now a big fan of Loma, he didn't complain or b!tch about the illegal blows. People who are gobbling on Salido's ballsack really a reality check. He came in as a Welterweight!? The guy is a disgrace to the sport. Can't believe he felt he needed to be a whole stone heavier in weight and fight so dirty to beat a guy who was relatively inexperienced at this level***8230; And even then he nearly got his ass handed to him towards the end of the fight.
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