After againts
Bradley 2 and 3
Jmm 5
Provo
Mickey Mouse
Win or lose
Then retire
Note: i did not add floyd because the chance of manny joining TMT as required by floyd is 0%
Of course whatever is posted here, is utterly subjective and the result will never convince everybody because his/her own opinion is more important than the other.
But to make it more convincing and acceptable to the public; I would hope that the respected major companies that caters boxing like espn, ring etc.. to conduct a world wide poll just like the recent maidana/khan poll, then, maybe we may get a more acceptable assessment of what is the standing of manny as of the moment in the ATG list. Tallying the overall result of these polls from all different major companies would yield a more acceptable result to the public.
But nevertheless, it would never satisfy everybody and everyone that's for sure.
Doesn't matter.
Styles complicated fights. What I will say is that Manny was 3-0 against Marquez because he out-throws him and out-lands him. It's simple really. All of their encounters are close, but it is clear that Manny is the "special" fighter between them. Marquez HATES his guts and always felt he was the better fighter. It is why I believe that the only way this man can beat Manny, is how he did. Roid up. Nobody KO's Manny!!!! Especially a 40 year old who was about to finally get stopped. I don't care about no perfect counter. I care about how much power was behind his punches that night. Honestly, he was actually stronger than Manny and that's never happened between them before. Only immature and uneducated fans, argue that point. Manny is an ATG and top 20 because of his run. Anytime you do something that has never been done before, you are a legend. That's what fighting is all about.
It's not always who you beat but when you beat them as well....his fights past 130 skew reality Mosley hadn't won in years, odlh hadn't fought at 148 or looked impressive in some time, cotto and Hatton had recent Kayo losses as did Margo for a belt and weight he wasn't even ranked at
Although he is 2~1~1 against Marquez he does not have one clear win over him
At the lower weights he earned his stripes great fights and guys at or near prime with dominant wins to boot
He top 20 to 30....guys who get overlooked by newbies are the canzoneri, Burley, kid chocolate, mickey walker, jimmy mcclarnin types...Less known today but beat better fighters at their peak and
I love pac but would a top ten atg really have so much trouble with Marquez? Bradley and Floyd handled that ass with no problems
Ali/Norton. Case closed.
I love pac but would a top ten atg really have so much trouble with Marquez? Bradley and Floyd handled that ass with no problems
maybe styles makes fights?
Roidquez.......
"around top 25-30......no way he's top 10. getting knocked out by 40 yr old marquez set him back a few notches"
A 40 year old who brought more to the ring than skill. That's for sure. Nobody KO's Manny like that without some **** in them. PERIOD. One thing I do know as fact, is that a minority WILL lie, cheat, and steal if necessary. You figure that one out 'cause I already have.
If his career stopped after defeating MAB, JMM, and EM, he would've still been considered ATG. Amazingly that wasn't Pac in his prime yet.
WORD. :boxing:
many is definitely top 10 ATG, his resume from featherweight to weltelterweight is historic, he has so many legends, Hall of Famers on his resume is undeniable impressive, beating barrera, morales, de la hoya, hatton, mosley, margarito, marquez, clottey, Bradley ?(robbery loss), beating a small guy in rios, all these guys were champions
around top 25-30......no way he's top 10. getting knocked out by 40 yr old marquez set him back a few notches.
Luckily it didn't set him back a few IQ Points, unlike your good self. :rolleyes:
I'm a big PACMAN fan. NO BS sh*t but I can say PACMAN deserves to be the No. 1 spot at ATG. I mean come on! 8 Division? who's boxer who achieve that? :birthday: