I mean he is 13-0 with 8 ko's which is good, but not great.
I have not been overly impressed with Rigo, sans the Donaire fight.
Rigo won that fight and looked pretty good. He was down on the canvas and got back up. Donaire wasn't busy enough and Rigo gave him a boxing lesson.
BUT...
I have also watched Rigo lose to Ricardo Cordoba and hang on for dear life in that fight. He was given a SD win. I scored the fight for Cordoba.
I mean Casey and Rico Ramos are solid pros but not elite or upper world class by any means. Maroquin and Abeko are good good B level pros but they've lost every step-up fight that they have had.
Fighting solid guys is good/very good...but not top 12-15 P4P good.
Rigo may become a top 10 p4p guy in the next year or two. He has good skills, great amateur backround, and shows flashes of brilliance. But alas, he is not a tv friendly fighter (?yet) and will have a hard time getting the big fights that he needs to prove his "greatness" against these fighters without the big tv money:boxing::boxing::boxing:.
What is your opinion of Rigo?
Top 10 P4P?
Top 15 P4P?
Somewhere inside the Top 20 P4P?
I don't think you have actually watched the Cordoba fight. The fight wasn't even close. Those scores were bull****. Mid Rounds Rigo took his foot off the gas and put on a technical masterpiece.
Here is the fight from the knockdown. Show me where he holds on for dear life? Right after the "knockdown" Rigo gets up and Blasts Cordoba with a massive left hand, then proceeds to fight like Rigo.
If you are easily swayed by Jim Lampley being an idiot, then you might have thought that fight was close, but it wasn't. Cordoba didn't deserve a single round after the knockdown.
Rigo fought very negative, yes... thats how he fights He controlled every second of the fight, even in the round he was "knocked down". It was a knockdown, but it was on off balance one, if you watch the replay, the shot caught Rigo when he was stepping and he lost his footing.
Cordoba deciding to come forward, and Jim Lampley pretending its a big deal, doesn't make it so. Rigo won the fight easily.
exactly! ! I had rigo winning comfortably but close ... that body shot when he drop cordoba was nasty precision ... rigondeaux body movements matrix style is amazing to watch ... hits so hard he had agbeko spook... stands in the pocket and you can't even touch him its freakish
You think the open gloved slaps and running won those rounds? Maybe you should watch MMA where dudes get KO'd with jabs then. Learn the sport..:boxing::boxing::boxing:
Surely you were so enthralled by the objective commentary by HBO you forgot watch the fight... To even suggest Cordoba won shows your lack of boxing judgement. :pat:
You should never watch boxing again if you actually seriously thought Cordoba won 5 of the last 6 rounds, and are not just being a troll.
You think the open gloved slaps and running won those rounds? Maybe you should watch MMA where dudes get KO'd with jabs then. Learn the sport..:boxing::boxing::boxing:
I mean he is 13-0 with 8 ko's which is good, but not great.
I have not been overly impressed with Rigo, sans the Donaire fight.
Rigo won that fight and looked pretty good. He was down on the canvas and got back up. Donaire wasn't busy enough and Rigo gave him a boxing lesson.
BUT...
I have also watched Rigo lose to Ricardo Cordoba and hang on for dear life in that fight. He was given a SD win. I scored the fight for Cordoba.
I mean Casey and Rico Ramos are solid pros but not elite or upper world class by any means. Maroquin and Abeko are good good B level pros but they've lost every step-up fight that they have had.
Fighting solid guys is good/very good...but not top 12-15 P4P good.
Rigo may become a top 10 p4p guy in the next year or two. He has good skills, great amateur backround, and shows flashes of brilliance. But alas, he is not a tv friendly fighter (?yet) and will have a hard time getting the big fights that he needs to prove his "greatness" against these fighters without the big tv money:boxing::boxing::boxing:.
What is your opinion of Rigo?
Top 10 P4P?
Top 15 P4P?
Somewhere inside the Top 20 P4P?
I'd say top ten. Certain people have a hard time understanding his style... i don't blame you.
WHY NOT? He made a P4P fighter look out of his league and as far as pure SKILLS GO...yes Donaire is not close to being in Rigondeaux League but he knew that already which is why he never wanted that fight in the first place
Rigo has excellent talent but nowhere near top 10 P4P,right now.I admit that he looked pretty damn good vs Donaire but that is one fight vs an excellent opponent.Abeko is a good B/B+ level pro,nothing more.
P.S. He was just awful vs Cordoba and should have lost 114-112. He ran and stopped fighting after the knockdown.
Lost? No chance I can agree. Looked bad? Sure. He's still paying for how he handled that situation and anything that resembles it since. He started clowning in the fifth round, came apart in the sixth and started running a marathon. Rigo's problem, like a lot of physically gifted fighters, IMHO, is that he's fallen so in love with the flash and the human sportscar stuff he has a hard time "going back to basics" or employing certain boxing basics and fundamentals when things aren't clicking. He uses his legs when he's trying to re-divine his superman routine. He's not wanting to piss people off or embarrass himself. Poor guy. :o
I remember watching this fight thinking "who is the kangaroo boxer who got hurt and ran the whole fight?" Then I remembered that it was Rigo who tried to open glove slap and move from rounds 6-12.
I have watched this fight 4-5 times now and just because the announcers think one thing, don't care.
R1- C
R2-R
R3-R
R4- 10-8 R
R5 R
R6 10-8 C
R7- C
R8 -C
R9-C
R 10-R
R 11-C
R12 -C
114-112 Cordoba.Rigo ran and slapped all of rounds 6-9. He threw one big punch in Round 6 after going down. He ran and danced most of the rest of the time.
You should never watch boxing again if you actually seriously thought Cordoba won 5 of the last 6 rounds, and are not just being a troll.
By your logic, who deserves to be in a p4p list? Nobody I guess.
Pacquiao was knocked out by Singsurat and Torrecampo, does it mean that he is a chinny, limited bum who never belonged in any p4p list?.
Realistically, I don't see so many fighters that can be rated higher than Rigo in a p4p list, as things stand.
Apart from Mayweather, who's there right now?.
Ward has a case, although he's been rather inactive due to injuries.
Pacquiao?
Rios was a decent win, a good one considering it was a comeback fight after a K.O loss. Respect for Pacman , but being 1-2 in his last 3 fights doesn't help his case.
Klitschko?
Are his wins over Wach, Pianeta and the absolutely unwatchable Povtekin fight worth of recognition?.
If Rigo schooling, ouboxing and dominating Donaire was 'boring' , I don't know what adjective you'd want to use for Klitscho vs Povektin.
Bradley?.
Pacquaio, Provodnikov and JMM are good wins on paper, but even though I like Tim, nobody in their right mind can say he dominated either of these bouts.
Who else is there? Danny Garcia?.
Any way you spin it, I don't see how Rigo doesn't belong in a top 10 p4p list at the moment.
rigo i think lacks the offensive versatilities but that makes his game unpenetrable....
but im with some who think he needs to be tested by good fighters with other styles ...
I can understand the skepticism given the fact that he doesn't have many pro fights, but he has all the tools and then some. The man is immensely talented, and let's face it, beating Donaire the way he did was very impressive.
Because he became a unified champ after his 12th fight and knocked off the #1 guy n the division to do that.
How often do we see a guy with such few fights accomplish what he has?
you have to understand the sport of boxing to see what makes rigo so good. if you do his greatness is impossible to ignore.
the sense of distance, understanding of angles, flawless technique, boxing intelligence, speed, balance, power etc.
i cant watch rigondeaux shadowbox without being overwhelmed by his abilities, i mean the footwork alone is enough to know this guy is something special.
watching him actuallly get in the ring and outsmart, out skill and outbox everyone in his path.. i dont see how someone can miss how special this guy is, i honestly cant. only explanation in my mind is they simply dont know enough about boxing to recognize a great fighter when they see one.
Rigo has excellent talent but nowhere near top 10 P4P,right now.I admit that he looked pretty damn good vs Donaire but that is one fight vs an excellent opponent.Abeko is a good B/B+ level pro,nothing more.
P.S. He was just awful vs Cordoba and should have lost 114-112. He ran and stopped fighting after the knockdown.
How do you figure that???! He got knocked down in the sixth and had won all rounds til then and scored a knockdown of his own in the fourth you're forgetting that. He just got lazy after that and got caught sleeping because he felt he had it in the bag then after the knock down it just made him just want to be done with it because he felt he had it in the bag and looked bad but not even then was he loosing every round clearly. Lets not forget he fought >Cordoba< who is no pushover in his 7th pro fight as well maybe his amateur instinct kicked in because he felt he had it in the bag who knows.
He is a guy who fights to what he perceives is his level of competition that's actually the same reason he didn't win the only major tournament he never got gold in that he participated in. Again a guy who beats a top 3 p4p guy gets a spot without questions asked, and there are MANY who have seen that list without even accomplishing what Rigo has in 12 fights in their 20+ the name Broner comes to mind he was there when you have names like that and others in that list how the fk are you going to say that the guy who beat one of the top 3-5 guys in it with ease to top it off does not deserve a spot? You can have a beef with his style that's fine not everyone likes the same color or ice cream, but until he gets beat he is where he deserves to be.