Why does most people here gives ward a pass

I stopped reading after this idiot posted "He Asked Dawson To Come Down" HAHAHA FAIL!

I'd really like to see their boxing talent without all the holding and ramming with the head or deliberate elbows. They are talented, but Ward and Mayweather are two of the most overrated boxers I've ever seen. http://img.pandawhale.com/44873-facepalm-gif-W6sa.gif

A klitschko fan accusing someone of excessive holding? I'm not a Klitschko fan and I don't accuse Ward of "excessive holding" -- Ward is holding as long as necessary, but no more than that.

Regardless of anything else, he's the greatest natural talent in boxing right now. People can criticize his career moves, and there's a legit argument there, but that has nothing to do with his actual skill. People try to lump the two. If you can't see what he's got, then try boxing sometime. Just because he's not booking fights the way you want him to doesn't mean the talent is not there. Same with Mayweather. I'd really like to see their boxing talent without all the holding and ramming with the head or deliberate elbows. They are talented, but Ward and Mayweather are two of the most overrated boxers I've ever seen.

Not to mention he cheats in all of his fights with excessive holding and headbutting in his hometown. It doesn't surprise me though. A klitschko fan accusing someone of excessive holding? http://www.awolfamongwolves.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/kobe-laugh.gif

I can't kill Ward for not wanting to move to 175 yet. He is looking for a payday as Chavez will provide that. After that fight though it's time. There's just no one left to fight at 168. I'm mesmerised on how people think that Chavez Jr. is that stupid in order to take Ward in a fight soon... :) I've said it several times: Chavez might be confused and negligent... but he isn't stupid to fight Ward sooner than (let's say) 3 years from now... :)

Mayweather yes... Ward, no! Overrated talent, talent non the less but he is massively overrated. Floyd is "slickness" personificated... Ward's talent is underrated imo -- he's fast, intelligent, he can box, he can wrestle, he can headbutt to death (unintentional, for sure)... To be honest I can't see anyone beating Ward to date, unless catches him with a one punch KO...

I can't kill Ward for not wanting to move to 175 yet. He is looking for a payday as Chavez will provide that. After that fight though it's time. There's just no one left to fight at 168.

Put it this way, Ward's commentating is like his fighting, in regard to entertainment value

People criticise Ward, but you can't knock his exciting, all-action style. http://i.imgur.com/X5tCR.gif

Regardless of anything else, he's the greatest natural talent in boxing right now. People can criticize his career moves, and there's a legit argument there, but that has nothing to do with his actual skill. People try to lump the two. If you can't see what he's got, then try boxing sometime. Just because he's not booking fights the way you want him to doesn't mean the talent is not there. Same with Mayweather. Mayweather yes... Ward, no! Overrated talent, talent non the less but he is massively overrated.

People criticise Ward, but you can't knock his exciting, all-action style. Yeah -- Ward's is "all action style"... We all want to watch him as soon as possible.

I don't see what the problem is; he agreed to fight Dawson at 168 and he asked GGG to fight him at 168 :dunno: He's a gold medalist and the SMW undisputed champ... Until he's dethroned he deserves the right to call the shots. OK, OK... We all are aware of these... I remember that, days ago, someone close to the team GGG said that GGG is "a star" and asked Ward to make an offer -- to come up with an appropriate money offer... Now let's wait and see what (and when) Ward is coming up with...

I'm not sure about how GGG would perform at 168 to be perfectly honest. But the GGG haters have got to be kidding if they don't think he KTFO of everyone at middleweight. Four times a year Sergio, Quillin, Sturm and Geale will feel like they're in a lottery in the Hunger Games. Thank God Sergio manned up and accepted the challenge. Once he has that Argentinean scalp, the hate will really begin... Haters act like we GGG fans don't want him to be in better fights. We do. I just personally think he can't lose at middle and dominate there first. Plus what his team says, doesn't leave me butthurt. Ward would beat him and end the fun. P.s. Ward gets KTFO if he fights Kovalev or Stevenson, so I understand his hesitancy

Golovkin is the one who said he'd fight anyone from 154 to 168. Don't blame me for that. And Ward said he would move up to 175 after the Super Six and wants to fight at HW some day.

This from someone who is in every Golovkin thread saying he should move up. Golovkin is the one who said he'd fight anyone from 154 to 168. Don't blame me for that.

Maybe he should try fighting then. ^^^^^^^^^this like Ward, but he's spent too much time on the shelf he did usurp Pac and Floyd as boxing's best fighter but he frittered it away by not doing shit for too long if he's so inclined, run through the viable ranked SMW's again otherwise, go to LHW and target the world title just sick of him squandering his talent and status with inactivity

I only ever hear the GGG fans refer to Floyd as a duck when GGG calls him out. A tiny guy who has never weighed more than 152 on fight night. Yet these same fans need tampons when they hear the very mention of GGG moving up to face Ward. GGG fans are bitter cunts. Those aren't Golovkin fans, at least not most. Those are the Floyd haters who jump on whatever power puncher in the general weight range they are sure Mayweather won't fight. They've had to go all the way up to middleweight now after being so sure Mayweather would duck Alvarez.

Maybe Ward wants to dominate his division for years and go down in history as the greatest and longest reigning 168 pounder of all time. Nothing wrong with that. If he's comfortable fighting at that weight then he should stay there. This from someone who is in every Golovkin thread saying he should move up. Maybe Ward should try fighting then.

I don't really get it either. The guy's done nothing of note since 2011 and you have guys saying "He's #1 P4P" which is obviously ridiculous. Those people in all honesty have died off now but you still have a few brain dead's claiming it. All you ever hear is "Well he did clean out 168". Yeah, in 2011.. I'm tired of repeating something like these above ^^^... I have a suspicion that Ward doesn't actually like to fight -- even he's extremely gifted and intelligent. But there's a major flaw in his skill-set (that he hides from young age): he doesn't have a proper right hand. And because he's that intelligent, Ward knows he can't make any further progress... Ward would look for making money in a safe way.