If Angulo stops Canelo...

No he wouldn't, Floyd would have mixed up his attack more, gone to the body, move more unpredictably, then smother and tie his man up. Lara doesn't even do directional feints, this all falls under you overrating Lara really. Angulo was green you say but when has he looked better? Joel Julio used the same Cintron approach and had plenty of success. Margarito and Angulo share the same approach but one is clearly the far superior and Margarito slicing through Cintron twice while Cintron outboxed Angulo is only a testament to that. It's weird that because Lara is your guy, you like many other choose to see things that aren't there. Lara struggled with a man he wasn't expected to struggle against, live with it and don't make shit up. Read my post again, so you're telling me Angulo would not pressure Mayweather for 12 rounds? I never said Mayweather would have the same exact problems Lara did since I stated Floyd would do better pulling himself off the ropes because of his better inside game. Learn how read and don't go off on a tangent. Also last I recall Joel Julio got KTFO by Angulo. Yes, Angulo was green when he fought Cintron, he was also 15 pounds lighter than what he was fight night against Lara many years later and Cintron even outweighed him by 10 pounds. Margarito has some attributes that make him better than Angulo like speed and workrate (I never disputed this that's just you putting words in my mouth). What they do share in common is their dimensions (height and reach) and a similar approach. The current Angulo does have an advantage on Margarito (a career welterweight) in terms of power (Angulo has dropped and stopped legit JMW's--something Margarito was never able to do) and is also 10 pounds heavier on fight night. In the bold we'll simply agree to disagree, I already brought up why I strongly disagree with that, brought up actual facts that can't be disputed but because of your weird infatuation with Lara that doesn't allow you to see right, I can't rationalize with you. Never thought I'd be talking about two fighters who aren't even that good :sad: Okay, have it your way... Baldomir > Angulo ... :rofl: "brought up actual facts..." lol :pat:

The winner should fight Lara! canelo aint fighting the guy unless he has too. he'll be having flashbacks of the floyd fight, and actually feel pain from the punches this time.

The winner should fight Lara!

Of course it does. He will continue to fight guys that have almost 0% chance of beating him. Heck Maidana only has 1% and he rigged the vote so that wont happen :lol1:

pretty sure Floyd's done fighting at JMW Angulo would never get a fight with him would rather see him rematch Lara than go after Floyd Lara said he wouldn't, but Angulo beating Alvarez can change that

I wouldnt think so, because Angulo has shown he make adjustments to deal with boxers.

The fact that Lara had trouble fighting away from the ropes doesn't change the fact that Angulo was able to get him on the ropes in the first place. I do agree that Lara wasn't able to trouble Angulo for most of the fight, which is part of the reason why he had the larger man chasing him down relentlessly throughout the entire fight. Mayweather would undoubtedly do better on the ropes than Lara did, but he would also have to deal with the same relentless pressure for 12 rounds none stop. Angulo was pretty green (only 15 fights on him) when he fought Cintron, Cintron actually outweighed him by 10 pounds (Angulo 159, 169). At the time, the heavier Cintron was able to keep the green inexperienced Angulo at bay. Source: http://www.fight writer.com/kermit-cintron-w12-alfredo-angulo Angulo is a lot like Margarito, same height, same reach, good stamina and chin, but with more power. No, he is not a carbon copy of Margarito (don't put words in my mouth) but they have a similar approach with the smaller Margarito providing a greater output per round. Regardless, both guys have been known for their hard chins and relentless pressure. Also, before you go full retard on me, my argument is not that Angulo beats Mayweather but that Angulo is a tougher fight for Mayweather than Baldomir was since you're the idiot that brought that ridiculous argument up. :bottle: Again, retarded troll post... :pat: No he wouldn't, Floyd would have mixed up his attack more, gone to the body, move more unpredictably, then smother and tie his man up. Lara doesn't even do directional feints, this all falls under you overrating Lara really. Angulo was green you say but when has he looked better? Joel Julio used the same Cintron approach and had plenty of success. Margarito and Angulo share the same approach but one is clearly the far superior and Margarito slicing through Cintron twice while Cintron outboxed Angulo is only a testament to that. It's weird that because Lara is your guy, you like many other choose to see things that aren't there. Lara struggled with a man he wasn't expected to struggle against, live with it and don't make shit up. In the bold we'll simply agree to disagree, I already brought up why I strongly disagree with that, brought up actual facts that can't be disputed but because of your weird infatuation with Lara that doesn't allow you to see right, I can't rationalize with you. Never thought I'd be talking about two fighters who aren't even that good :sad:

The fact that Lara had trouble fighting away from the ropes doesn't change the fact that Angulo was able to get him on the ropes in the first place. I do agree that Lara wasn't able to trouble Angulo for most of the fight, which is part of the reason why he had the larger man chasing him down relentlessly throughout the entire fight. Mayweather would undoubtedly do better on the ropes than Lara did, but he would also have to deal with the same relentless pressure for 12 rounds none stop. Angulo was pretty green (only 15 fights on him) when he fought Cintron, Cintron actually outweighed him by 10 pounds (Angulo 159, 169). At the time, the heavier Cintron was able to keep the green inexperienced Angulo at bay. Source: http://www.fight writer.com/kermit-cintron-w12-alfredo-angulo Angulo is a lot like Margarito, same height, same reach, good stamina and chin, but with more power. No, he is not a carbon copy of Margarito (don't put words in my mouth) but they have a similar approach with the smaller Margarito providing a greater output per round. Regardless, both guys have been known for their hard chins and relentless pressure. Also, before you go full retard on me, my argument is not that Angulo beats Mayweather but that Angulo is a tougher fight for Mayweather than Baldomir was since you're the idiot that brought that ridiculous argument up. :bottle: Again, retarded troll post... :pat: The fact that the ring was a phone booth and the mat a memory foam may had accounted for angulo getting to Lara, and troubled he did, he trouble him so much that he quit...

He should first avenge his loss to Lara. Lara will beat him in a rematch again

Vernon Forrest (a career welterweight) had decent power but he wasn't a knockout artist by any means and he wouldn't stop Angulo (a big career JMW) unless its from swelling. And again, your an idiot if you think the short (5'7, 160 pound) Baldomir could take Mayweather's punches better than Angulo (5'11, 174 pounds) would. Note: I would also have loved to see a Mayweather v. Forrest fight, the style match up would have been very interesting. Baldomir fought in straight lines and his short 67' reach made it that much more difficult for him to cut the ring. He's greatest asset was his 'intensity' which allowed him to win decisions despite being notoriously pillow-handed. Angulo (5'11 72' reach, 174 pounds) if you've watched any of his fights, is much better at cutting off the ring, which is what he would need to do against Floyd. Also keep in mind you're talking up a guy who had 10 losses and 6 draws going into the Mayweather fight... and who wasn't remotely competitive against Floyd and Forrest (two opponents against whom he needed to cut the ring off effectively to stay competitive and which he clearly didn't know how to do). Angulo was at least able to cut the ring on the fast-footed (and former Cuban amateur star) Lara, which speaks volumes about his ability to implement effective pressure. forest would bust up angulo who gets hit easy. He could very well stop him

I don't think he would fight him if he beat Canelo. Remember he made Canelo go to 152 and still he only fought him because it was the biggest possible money maker for him. Angulo won't bring Canelo type money even if he KOs Canelo.

Possibly. But I think Golden Boy would then make Lara-Angulo II given it was really an even fight.

No it doesn't, it was the fact that Lara pulls out with his right hand down to his waist, the fact that again he doesn't get under punches. Besides the straight left hand Lara failed to give Angulo anything else to worry about. The fact that Lara had trouble fighting away from the ropes doesn't change the fact that Angulo was able to get him on the ropes in the first place. I do agree that Lara wasn't able to trouble Angulo for most of the fight, which is part of the reason why he had the larger man chasing him down relentlessly throughout the entire fight. Mayweather would undoubtedly do better on the ropes than Lara did, but he would also have to deal with the same relentless pressure for 12 rounds none stop. I'm truly convinced that your infatuation with Lara has you seeing things that aren't even there, even overrating Angulo who isn't even that good to begin with, Cintron outboxed him lets not forget. Now the bold, look who's excreting high levels of stupidity, Margarito's conditioning and durability allowed him to run after his opponents if willing, his ability to mix up his attack was far better, better hand and foot speed. Angulo was pretty green (only 15 fights on him) when he fought Cintron, Cintron actually outweighed him by 10 pounds (Angulo 159, 169). At the time, the heavier Cintron was able to keep the green inexperienced Angulo at bay. Source: http://www.fight writer.com/kermit-cintron-w12-alfredo-angulo Angulo is a lot like Margarito, same height, same reach, good stamina and chin, but with more power. No, he is not a carbon copy of Margarito (don't put words in my mouth) but they have a similar approach with the smaller Margarito providing a greater output per round. Regardless, both guys have been known for their hard chins and relentless pressure. Also, before you go full retard on me, my argument is not that Angulo beats Mayweather but that Angulo is a tougher fight for Mayweather than Baldomir was since you're the idiot that brought that ridiculous argument up. :bottle: If that fight ever happen it's gonna look more one sided than Mayweather-Baldomir :lol1: Again, retarded troll post... :pat:

Please tell me ya'll are not now hyping Angulo for crying out loud Didn't make this thread to hype Angulo. I posed the question because Angulo's stock could rise if he defeats Mayweather's last opponent soundly. Especially since Canelo was so highly touted in his hype period. Also, Angulo checks the nationality box when it comes to the preference of Floyd Mayweather opponents. Of course I don't think Perro beats Floyd, but I thought there could be a chance he could get a chance to see him in the ring. Just wanted to see if others think it could play out like that also.

Please tell me ya'll are not now hyping Angulo for crying out loud

More than anything I felt Lara couldn't get Angulo's respect throughout most of the fight and Angulo's size and high intensity style tired Lara down. Lara definitely isn't as good defensively on the inside as Mayweather, but the fact that Angulo was able to get him on the ropes in the first place still says a lot about his ability to cut the ring. Again, Mayweather would have to work a lot more against Angulo than he did against Baldomir just to keep him at bay. Mayweather has never fought a 174 pound 5'11 high intensity fighter before, there's a reason why he avoided prime Margarito and Angulo is essentially a heavier Margarito (w/much more punching power too). Mayweather isn't as sharp as he used to be, he has been getting hit a lot more lately and if Angulo lands as many punches as Cotto, Guerrero, and Canelo did he could very well drop him. Yes, you are an idiot. I'm glad you approve. No it doesn't, it was the fact that Lara pulls out with his right hand down to his waist, the fact that again he doesn't get under punches. Besides the straight left hand Lara failed to give Angulo anything else to worry about. I'm truly convinced that your infatuation with Lara has you seeing things that aren't even there, even overrating Angulo who isn't even that good to begin with, Cintron outboxed him lets not forget. Now the bold, look who's excreting high levels of stupidity, Margarito's conditioning and durability allowed him to run after his opponents if willing, his ability to mix up his attack was far better, better hand and foot speed.

No it doesn't, it says more about how overrated Lara is more than anything. Angulo follows you around, really nothing methodical about him. The only reason Lara got pounded on is because he doesn't get under punches, he would rather block and then slide out of there. Mayweather and Rigondeaux on the other hand know how to get under punches when their backs get close to the ropes and that allows them to quickly get into punching range and proceed dominating. Lara had to deal with the same struggles against Molina solely because of that as well. More than anything I felt Lara couldn't get Angulo's respect throughout most of the fight and Angulo's size and high intensity style tired Lara down. Lara definitely isn't as good defensively on the inside as Mayweather, but the fact that Angulo was able to get him on the ropes in the first place still says a lot about his ability to cut the ring. Again, Mayweather would have to work a lot more against Angulo than he did against Baldomir just to keep him at bay. Mayweather has never fought a 174 pound 5'11 high intensity fighter before, there's a reason why he avoided prime Margarito and Angulo is essentially a heavier Margarito (w/much more punching power too). Mayweather isn't as sharp as he used to be, he has been getting hit a lot more lately and if Angulo lands as many punches as Cotto, Guerrero, and Canelo did he could very well drop him. No, Angulo would have quickly been taken out had he been hit with those monstrous punches Baldomir was hit with. Baldomir at least had some speed and was able to tag Forrest occasionally. Anyway, consider me an idiot then, Baldomir's chin > Angulo's. Yes, you are an idiot. I'm glad you approve.

i will ship my pants

Vernon Forrest (a career welterweight) had decent power but he wasn't a knockout artist by any means and he wouldn't stop Angulo (a career JMW) unless its from swelling. And again, your an idiot if you think the short (5'7, 160 pound) Baldomir could take Mayweather's punches better than Angulo (5'11, 174 pounds) would. Note: I would also have loved to see a Mayweather v. Forrest fight, the style match up would have been very interesting. Baldomir fought in straight lines and his short 67' reach made it that much more difficult for him to cut the ring. He's greatest asset was his 'intensity' which allowed him to win decisions despite being notoriously pillow-handed. Angulo (5'11 72' reach, 174 pounds) if you've watched any of his fights, is much better at cutting off the ring, which is what he would need to do against Floyd. Also keep in mind you're talking up a guy who had 10 losses and 6 draws going into the Mayweather fight... and who wasn't remotely competitive against Floyd and Forrest (two opponents against whom he needed to cut the ring off effectively to stay competitive and which he clearly didn't know how to do). Angulo was at least able to cut the ring on the fast-footed (and former Cuban amateur star) Lara, which speaks volumes about his ability to implement effective pressure. No it doesn't, it says more about how overrated Lara is more than anything. Angulo follows you around, really nothing methodical about him. The only reason Lara got pounded on is because he doesn't get under punches, he would rather block and then slide out of there. Mayweather and Rigondeaux on the other hand know how to get under punches when their backs get close to the ropes and that allows them to quickly get into punching range and proceed dominating. Lara had to deal with the same struggles against Molina solely because of that as well. No, Angulo would have quickly been taken out had he been hit with those monstrous punches Baldomir was hit with. Baldomir at least had some speed and was able to tag Forrest occasionally. Anyway, consider me an idiot then, Baldomir's chin > Angulo's.

Baldomir took Vernon Forrest's punches and Forrest was trying to take him out from the getgo, punches that would have taken Angulo out :lol1: Angulo is slow so it'd depend on your interpretation of working cause I don't see it being any harder than Baldomir. Vernon Forrest (a career welterweight) had decent power but he wasn't a knockout artist by any means and he wouldn't stop Angulo (a big career JMW) unless its from swelling. And again, your an idiot if you think the short (5'7, 160 pound) Baldomir could take Mayweather's punches better than Angulo (5'11, 174 pounds) would. Note: I would also have loved to see a Mayweather v. Forrest fight, the style match up would have been very interesting. 18:50, Say what you may but Baldomir was most noted for his chin, you sound retarded questioning that of all things :lol1: Pay attention to commentating, Emanuel is actually impressed with Baldomir's speed. Not even trying to big up his speed at all but he's noticeably faster with his hands and feet than Angulo which is quite sad. Baldomir fought in straight lines and his short 67' reach made it that much more difficult for him to cut the ring. He's greatest asset was his 'intensity' which allowed him to win decisions despite being notoriously pillow-handed. Angulo (5'11 72' reach, 174 pounds) if you've watched any of his fights, is much better at cutting off the ring, which is what he would need to do against Floyd. Also keep in mind you're talking up a guy who had 10 losses and 6 draws going into the Mayweather fight... and who wasn't remotely competitive against Floyd and Forrest (two opponents against whom he needed to cut the ring off effectively to stay competitive and which he clearly didn't know how to do). Angulo was at least able to cut the ring on the fast-footed (and former Cuban amateur star) Lara, which speaks volumes about his ability to implement effective pressure.