Comments Thread For: Hearn Plans Last Ditch Effort To Finalize Froch-Groves II

When a challenger is ranked from 6-10, the split is 85-15. Yeah, that's from number 3 down I think.

I thought it was below 1 & 2? You might be correct. I just skimmed the rules. I'm not sure from where I got my below no.5 line. Is this if it reverts to purse bids,or if it goes to purse is the split then 75/25 ?

Froch-Groves II or Froch-Chavez Jr., I'm good either way.

A little off-topic but i think it's really dope they can have a fight like this in Etihad or at the Emirates. That UK boxing support is top notch.

I've seen posts stating that Hearn is only willing to do the fight if Groves agrees to options on his future fights. I don't agree with that kind of thing, it's a typical Warren move and if true it's a shame to see Hearn resort to it now he's the UK's dominant promoter. I wouldn't blame Groves for turning down that kind of deal. Every promoter does this. It's procedure. When Hearn made the offer, Groves was not the mandatory. Every champion who makes a voluntary defence of their title asks for options on the opponent. I guarantee all of Floyd Mayweather's contracts contain rematch clauses.

You might be correct. I just skimmed the rules. I'm not sure from where I got my below no.5 line.

Yes, sure... Every promoter around the globe is able to organize a fight at a stadium in UK... Sure. If another promoter wins it I'm sure there is nothing to say the fight has to be in a stadium in the UK. lol. C'mon son. Okay, saying 'every promoter around the globe' was a bit ott. But it sounded better than 'a lot of promoters'......

I'm happy because either way Froch is in a compelling match-up I really want to see him whoop Chavez Jr though...

When a challenger is ranked from 6-10, the split is 85-15. I thought it was below 1 & 2?

I may be wrong but I think if it goes to a purse bid the split is something like 75/25 for the champion, which if true means Groves stands to get a larger slice of a larger pie if it goes to a purse bid especially if the Promoter who won Klitschko/Povietkin(his name escapes me at the moment) bid wins it because he is likely to bid big. When a challenger is ranked from 6-10, the split is 85-15.

I think Groves has as much bargaining power here. If he doesn't accept Hearn's offer then it goes to purse bids. Hearn will do everything he can to avoid purse bids because every promoter around the globe will be bidding for this fight..... and we all know Hearn never wins purse bids. If Groves has to take 15% of a purse I'm sure he'll wait for another promoter to put a bigger purse on the table. Yes, sure... Every promoter around the globe is able to organize a fight at a stadium in UK... Sure.

If you told Groves the year is 2014, he would appeal it.

If Groves had worked his way into a WBA mandatory position instead of the IBF I don't think we'd have seen the first fight. I recall Froch saying that he wouldn't relinquish the IBF belt before the Groves fight because it was more prestigious than the WBA regular (and rightly so). I think it's quite likely that he will vacate, so we could be in a position where Froch holds the WBA plastic belt if he gets through Chaves, whilst Groves fights a no mark to pick up the IBF strap to set up a showdown later in the year. Issue with that is Groves would demand 50/50, claim his belt is worth more than Froch's plastic title, and we go around and around in a circle of death. Get the fight on now and pray for a clear cut winner.

I may be wrong but I think if it goes to a purse bid the split is something like 75/25 for the champion, which if true means Groves stands to get a larger slice of a larger pie if it goes to a purse bid especially if the Promoter who won Klitschko/Povietkin(his name escapes me at the moment) bid wins it because he is likely to bid big.

I think Groves has as much bargaining power here. If he doesn't accept Hearn's offer then it goes to purse bids. Hearn will do everything he can to avoid purse bids because every promoter around the globe will be bidding for this fight..... and we all know Hearn never wins purse bids. If Groves has to take 15% of a purse I'm sure he'll wait for another promoter to put a bigger purse on the table.

I think Hearn is using the jr fight to get Groves to budge. Groves deserves a rematch in my opinion, and he deserves one without options. That being said, Hearn now has the bargaining power as Groves will either have to accept a lower cut of a huge fight or a bigger cut of a smaller fight. I think they'll find a solution and have a big fight come May.

Purse bids it is then! I have a feeling that Froch will drag this out and end up vacating the belt.... something he said he would never do! Coming up with excuses such as... 'my dream was to fight in Vegas'..... 'Groves wanted too much money'.... 'I'm an international superstar, he doesnt deserve to share a ring with me again'.