The Supposed Euro/Russian HW Explosion Has Officially Fizzled Out

You knew who posted this thread just by looking at the title, the guy's agenda is probably the most obvious on the entire board CW is dominated by a Cuban that goes by the name of Yoan Pablo Hernandez. :lol1: Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android Hernandez isn't ranked as the best CW in a lot of rankings, he hasnt dominated anything. The fiasco with his RING title only highlights how the RING has long lost its once brilliant shine

The fact that you posted this ranking is hilarious. Fury and Pulev are the only guys who even beat someone with a pulse and they beat a Cruisweight and a 42 year old. 4 of the 6 shouldn't even be considered active fighters. Chagaev's 12 round decision win over Jovo Pudar was particularly inspiring and deserving of a world ranking. As opposed to Wilder or Jennings? :rofl:

Kolodziej is terrible dont get your hopes up for this fight. I would love Huck to stop running from Wlodarczyk unification but it seems like he is going to HW again, oh well. I don't mind Huck going to hw, take a Povetkin rematch, beat him and then fight Wlad, win or lose, at least it'll be interesting for a bit.

YPH hardly dominates CW, he has the talent but his best win is an ageing Cunningham. Where are the Huck fights or Afolabi or Leb or the come backing Jones? His fighting a decent guy next but imo he isn't a top 10 contender. Huck has a far better resume than YPH at CW, just a shame he doesn't have that Cunningham win. Kolodziej is terrible dont get your hopes up for this fight. I would love Huck to stop running from Wlodarczyk unification but it seems like he is going to HW again, oh well.

CW is dominated by a Cuban that goes by the name of Yoan Pablo Hernandez. :lol1: Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android YPH hardly dominates CW, he has the talent but his best win is an ageing Cunningham. Where are the Huck fights or Afolabi or Leb or the come backing Jones? His fighting a decent guy next but imo he isn't a top 10 contender. Huck has a far better resume than YPH at CW, just a shame he doesn't have that Cunningham win.

Two years ago the Euro fans on here were just beside themselves gushing about all the future HW talent coming out and how the American heavies were terrible and doomed to 2nd class status even after the Klitschko brothers retired. Now here we are two years later and pretty much every single guy has turned out to be overrated - or an outright fraud - let's take a look Robert Helenius - The Nordic-less Nightmare, went from heir apparent to the HW title, to getting his ass kicked by a tomato can Chisora, to crying about his contract and f*cking off the Finland. BUST. Dennis Boytsov - Oh yeah gotta love the hype this guy got as the Russian Tyson or whatever the hell they called him after he fought a resume that makes Deontay Wilder laugh. Beaten down by an Australian of zero repute. BUST Alexander Dimirenko - Has the honor of not only saying he made Eddie Chambers look like a power puncher but also holds claim as the only fighter to sh*t his pants and pass out from fear in the locker room before a fight. BUST. David Haye - Was going to save us from the Klitschko's. Nothing to add here - his name is the punch line. BUST David Price - The next heir apparent. UK fans were comparing his size and power to Klitschko and even giving Price the nod. Destroyed twice by a 41 year old American fighter largely viewed as washed up in utterly pathetic efforts. Attempting to rebuild his career with the help of a Sauerland and a shrink. Good luck. BUST Artur Szpilka - Exposed - KO'd by a guy who doesn't even hit hard. BUST. Magomed Abdusalamov - Best wishes in recovery but yet another guy who was clearly overhyped with a padded up record. BUST Alexander Povetkin - Was supposed to be the best non-Klit for many years but sat around fighting tomato cans and passing up chances- got his shot - and fared no better than anyone else who has fought Wlad. HYPE. Tomasz Adamek - Has spent more time drinking and driving and turning down fights the past couple years than he has spent training. Is already well past it by now. No Future. Alexander Ustinov - Imagine taking 300 lbs of dog crap and shaping it into human form. Then put boxing gloves on it and give it life. Then you have Ustinov. NEVER WAS Manuel Charr - I'm sure someone takes him seriously. Has fought nothing but stiffs since losing to Vitali. BUST Glazkov - Was schooled by Malik Scott. Regardless of decision his ceiling was exposed as not being world class. BUST Who is left? Kubrat Pulev? Probably the consensus #1 European HW at the moment but is still fighting guys like Joey Abell. I'm not sold. Tyson Fury - At least he talks a good game and isn't afraid to come to the USA for a fight. I'll give ya that! Meanwhile............... Two North Americans will fight for the WBC title and two Americans - Wilder and Jennings are considered among the Top-5 HW's in the world by most boxing experts. The US fighters aren't incredibly impressive themselves - but the current Euro-Russian crop has gone bust at an amazing rate over the past two years. If the Klitschkos retired today HW superiority would come from the Western Hemisphere for the time being. Wilder and Jennings top 5... Hehe

CW is dominated by a Cuban that goes by the name of Yoan Pablo Hernandez. :lol1: Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android Yea they screwed USS to give him a title and then screw troy ross to keep it, such dominance.

You can say what you want HW is still dominated by Wlod who is european, and probaly stay that way for couple more years when he ll get replaced by another european, probably Pulev or one of the Brits. CW- totally dominated by european, down to middleweight Stevenson, Hopkins and Ward are probably the only ones left carrying the US torch as the best in their division, and with the olimpians turning pro the lower division are soon to follow. CW is dominated by a Cuban that goes by the name of Yoan Pablo Hernandez. :lol1: Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

You can say what you want HW is still dominated by Wlod who is european, and probaly stay that way for couple more years when he ll get replaced by another european, probably Pulev or one of the Brits. CW- totally dominated by european, down to middleweight Stevenson, Hopkins and Ward are probably the only ones left carrying the US torch as the best in their division, and with the olimpians turning pro the lower division are soon to follow.

Haha. Nice effort ****man. They all suck and Erdei would spark them all.

Cristobal Nipple did get his ass beat by cruiserweight Adamek which was pretty embarrassing. His title shot was probably one of Jose Suliman's last acts.

Loses to Wlad Klitschko: Hypejob Okay, I'm outta here now :) :boxing: yea didnt you know? Every single boxer on earth other than wlad is a hype job

Part where I loled the most. WBC, WBA, WBO all have Wilder in the top 5. :boxing:

TBR C - Klitschko (Europe) 1. Pulev (Europe) 2. Povetkin (Europe) 3. Adamek (Europe) 4. Fury (Europe) 5. Thompson (North America) 6. Stiverne (North America) 7. Helenius (Europe) 8. Arreola (North America) 9. Chisora (Europe) 10. Perez (North America) Ring C - Klitschko (Europe) 1. Pulev (Europe) 2. Povetkin (Europe) 3. Adamek (Europe) 4. Stiverne (North America) 5. Fury (Europe) 6. Helenius (Europe) 7. Arreola (North America) 8. Solis (North America) 9. Chagaev (Europe) 10. Wilder (North America) ESPN 1. Klitschko (Europe) 2. Adamek (Europe) 3. Stiverne (North America) 4. Povetkin (Europe) 5. Pulev (Europe) 6. Chagaev (Europe) 7. Arreola (North America) 8. Thompson (North America) 9. Fury (Europe) 10. Chisora (Europe) What was your point again OP? List the organizations rankings.

wilder, jennings, and seth michell. heavyweight boxing is saved. thank god.

Kubrat Pulev? Probably the consensus #1 European HW at the moment but is still fighting guys like Joey Abell. I'm not sold. Well, to be fair, in 2012-13, Pulev posted a better series of wins than any other heavyweight, including Wlad. Abbell was just a stay busy fight. Not "sold" on him being what? The next Muhammad Ali? I'm not sold on that either. But I'm sold on him being the best HW contender these days, and one capable of giving Wlad a good fight. And if you are not sold on Pulev, how the heck are you sold on Wilder and Jennings? They have beaten literally nobody of note.

I kinda understand what the TS is trying to say, a lot of the Euro hopefuls have gone bust or looked completely inadequate at the top level and some just haven't come on the way people thought they would (Pulev, Ustinov, Helenius). H2H I think the two best heavies not named Klit are Chisora and Fury, possibly a fit Solis and if Pulev can get his game together. jennings may turn out to be world class and Wilder had the power to be fun for a while. Other than that, the division looks dead for the foreseeable future, till Hughie and AJ come of age.

Meanwhile............... Two North Americans will fight for the WBC title and two Americans - Wilder and Jennings are considered among the Top-5 HW's in the world by most boxing experts. Part where I loled the most.

The fact that you posted this ranking is hilarious. Fury and Pulev are the only guys who even beat someone with a pulse and they beat a Cruisweight and a 42 year old. 4 of the 6 shouldn't even be considered active fighters. Chagaev's 12 round decision win over Jovo Pudar was particularly inspiring and deserving of a world ranking. All of them are on the other rankings too so they can't all be wrong. Let's talk about the North American fighters on the list: Stiverne - 37 years old, not the future Thompson - 42 years old, not the future Arreola - 32 years old, about to lose to Stiverne Wilder - 28 years old, beaten no one yet Jennings had a good win at the weekend, along with Deontay he's the last hope but I wouldn't be sure either beat Arreola or Thompson let alone the European fighters.

TBR Ring 1. Pulev (Europe) 2. Povetkin (Europe) 3. Adamek (Europe) 5. Fury (Europe) 6. Helenius (Europe) 9. Chagaev (Europe) What was your point again OP? The fact that you posted this ranking is hilarious. Fury and Pulev are the only guys who even beat someone with a pulse and they beat a Cruisweight and a 42 year old. 4 of the 6 shouldn't even be considered active fighters. Chagaev's 12 round decision win over Jovo Pudar was particularly inspiring and deserving of a world ranking.