Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

I would very hesitantly pick Ward by an 8-4ish decision. Wouldn't be the least bit surprised by a Kovalev victory.

Would ward be th fav? Ward would probably be the favorite.

Would be a great fight. Im on the fence on who would win but id love to see it.

Would ward be th fav?

He's so slick that he dropped 4 rounds each to Abraham and Dawson :haha::haha::haha::haha:

He's so slick that he dropped 4 rounds each to Abraham and Dawson You actually gave Dawson and Abraham 4 rounds each? :lol1::lol1: Maybe between the two of them they managed to win a total of four rounds...

Ward wins. He is too slick and won't rope a dope like how Hopkins did.

Interesting point. In Golovkins case, he has a true lineal champ ahead of him in the division and IMO it would make sense for him to try and defeat him before moving up and solidify himself as the best MW. A true champ if this was 2-3 years ago. I think you, the fans and myself know that Sergio just might be done as a top tier fighter. We've yet to see him since his last fight, which was how long ago now and he looked far from spectacular. Ward is clearly the best SMW and there isn't anybody left for him to fight in the division. Golovkin moving up would be premature because he hasn't "officially" solidified himself as the best MW, Ward moving up would be different I think because he is the best SMW and and he can only further increase his legacy by moving up and facing Kovalev and winning a title at 175. Ward still has an interesting fight with Groves that's possible. A possible Froch rematch, if both can decide on a venue and that blahzay blahzay shit I don't care about. As far as GGG goes. I've seen numerous threads/posts on here stating that such and such won't fight him. He's going after guys like Stevens and Adama because Sergio, Quillin, Sturm, Geale etc etc won't step up. I ask you this.. If true, why waste these prime years of your career if you're GGG? As far as legacy goes. I don't think a hypothetical win over Kovalev would be more impressive than derailing this locomotive that's GGG. Especially with a guy that's being anointed the most feared man in the game. A guy that Lampley already has somewhere in the top 5. People(casuals) see that and start believing. Legacy wise, Ward's would be just ok if he were to fight say GGG or Sergio instead of Kov... IMO of course. Obviously he doesn't have to move up. But it's a legit thought considering there isn't much world class opponents available for him at 168. And there's more than enough at 175. That's why I wouldn't mind seeing a guy like Kovalev knock off Pascal, Stevenson,Hopkins Dawson etc etc. He's yet to do that. There's business to be had at LHW and as far as I see it, no one's ducking Kov up there. Solidify yourself as the best, the way Dawson did and then you have a real legacy bout brewing with Ward. As for Kovalev..... He actually wants to clean out the division, he's been calling for Adonis Stevenson for months now. Obviously that fight isn't happening next (not because of Kovalev or his people) and similar to Ward fighting lesser opponents clearly levels below because there isn't anyone left, anybody else at 175 for Kovalev besides Adonis would be the same thing.... so IMO the next best thing for Kovalev would be Ward (if he moved up)I've stated other options. Options I think HBO(outside of Hopkins) would be ok with. Then you got a guy like Chavez, Jr you can sacrifice to him. Maybe Edwin Rodriguez who I think we all know will go in there to fight. Eider Alvarez and maybe a couple more. I think if it was up to Kovalev, his promoter and the fans..... they/we would all want Kovalev/Stevenson first for him to have his chance to somewhat (Hopskins/Shumenov unavailable) clean the division, or at least try to take the lineal championship. But I guess that seems unlikely for now. Very unlikely for now, but certainly not impossible to make happen. With this rift raft between promoters I think an Adonis/Kovalev superfight would be ideal to make then have the winner start discussing a future fight with Ward. That'll take at least 2 more fights between them.. At least I think. In those 2 fights, we could see a guy like GGG cement himself as this wrecking machine and face Ward. A fight that's probably easier to make. A fight that financially would sell better and a fight that I think would answer a ton of questions about both guys. Either way, I'd be on board for Ward/Kovalev or Stevenson or Froch II or Groves.

why ward doesn't go down a division like dawson? Why would he? :dunno:

If its a "legacy" fight for WARD to step up ONE weight class, why isnt it one for GGG?:pat: why ward doesn't go down a division like dawson?

Why the fk is Kovalev a legacy fight ? Hype now counts as merit? The real guy at 175 is Stevenson end of story Kovalev is just hype til he proves otherwise. Man..... Hype? Dude has had 21 fights,a lot of guys are fighting part time drivers/part time cab drivers til they hit 30 something fights (I.e Wilder, Canelo). He JUST burst onto the scene last year, 17 or so fights into his career.... And knocked out 4 opponents in under 3 rounds. TWO of whom were top 15 fighters in the division, whether you like it or not. In fact, Campillo was supposed to be unified champ when he fought Kovalev (I bet you would call a Hopkins W over Shumenov a "fantastic win" for the old man, eh?) He hasn't even had a chance to develop a résumé yet, that's what he's attempting to do now. So he's all hype til he proves otherwise.... Right, and how is he supposed to prove it if the top guys he's supposed to fight to be able to prove his worth and show his class against are too good and "proven" to fight him? What's he supposed to do then? It's not like he's taking the Canelo route and trying to weasel his way into top fighter conversations by having his promoter carefully nitpick his career into a big fight......... He's on RECORD saying he wants to fight everyone and anyone, such as Stevenson. Stevensons camp turned down Kovalev, not the other way around. So is Adonis too "proven" to try and unify titles with Kovalev as well? It's an endless cycle with guys like you and Kovalev could KO Adonis tomorrow and beat Ward a week later and I'm 100% sure you would still find someway to make it seem like he's not deserving of being talked about. Kovalev went 4-0 last year, two opponents were top 10-15 in the division, he won a legit alphabet title and is now a LHW titlist...... He's on the scene now, deal with it. I don't know how you can think Ward moving up and beating an undefeated titlist isn't somewhat of a legacy fight. A hell of a lot more potential to add to his legacy then fighting Chavez Jr, or any other lesser opponent in the division he already cleaned out and rules.

Yes, Stevenson and Kovalev are each other's legacy fights first and foremost. But Ward-Kovalev/Stevenson are also legacy fights for all 3, IMO Why the fk is Kovalev a legacy fight ? Hype now counts as merit? The real guy at 175 is Stevenson end of story Kovalev is just hype til he proves otherwise.

Wouldn't that only apply to somebody in the lower division? If Ward moves up to 168, he's in Kovalev's division.... who is at the same time trying to move up in it. It would probably apply if Kovalev was moving down Ward already cleaned out his division and he's just waiting for Chavez Jr.... or not, I don't know if he thinks he's good PPV or a weak link now. Never knew that was an unwritten rule. That wasn't the case when Dawson challenged Ward after he defeated Hopkins. The best MW vs the best(or so we thought) LHW at the time. Ward has defeated everyone there for the most but a Froch II and groves fight are being whispered by the fans. Fights I wouldn't mind seeing Ward stick around for. Would you? With Kovalev, he's yet to establish himself as the best. It's intriguing and great bar room talk but there's still a few options there for Kovalev to get his name out there the way others have and **** Chavez Jr -king- I'll get to your post from the house.

The legacy fight at 175 is Stevenson, he's the true and lineal champ As far as this fight goes.....its a tough fight to call. I favor Wards speed and superior skill, but you just can't sleep on Kovalevs power and tenacity. Yes, Stevenson and Kovalev are each other's legacy fights first and foremost. But Ward-Kovalev/Stevenson are also legacy fights for all 3, IMO

If its a "legacy" fight for WARD to step up ONE weight class, why isnt it one for GGG?:pat: The legacy fight at 175 is Stevenson, he's the true and lineal champ As far as this fight goes.....its a tough fight to call. I favor Wards speed and superior skill, but you just can't sleep on Kovalevs power and tenacity.

Ill just cut to the chase, you guys have been acting like GGG is the second coming and talking big trash, now that he's been put on notice all of that trash talking about the most feared has disapeared, and what about not being able to get someone to fight him. Anyone else and you guys would be talking about GGG decapitating someone. Its just awesome to see all of those ho cards being pulled.:nono: Dude this thread has nothing to do with Golovkin, I have no idea what Gennady Golovkin has to do with a potential matchup between Andre Ward and Sergey Kovalev Honestly I feel like you just hate Golovkin, for some reason. And I don't know why you keep saying "you guys." Thinking GGG is a good fighter or liking him doesn't automatically group a person in some big group that share the same opinion, think GGG would decapitate Muhammed Ali or whatever else you're saying lol

Make that fight since Ward's cleaned out his division and the guy below his weight class hasn't done so.. But then I ask myself this.. If that's a reason not to make that fight, then why are we talking Kovalev vs Ward when Kov hasn't cleaned out his division either? Anyhow, got ward by UD in this dream fight Wouldn't that only apply to somebody in the lower division? If Ward moves up to 168, he's in Kovalev's division.... who is at the same time trying to move up in it. It would probably apply if Kovalev was moving down Ward already cleaned out his division and he's just waiting for Chavez Jr.... or not, I don't know if he thinks he's good PPV or a weak link now.

If its a "legacy" fight for WARD to step up ONE weight class, why isnt it one for GGG?:pat: Uh........ Because it is? :dunno::pat: And so is Sergio Martinez, the lineal champ of his division. I don't want to see Ward-Kovalev because I just want Ward to lose, sorry bro.

THIS IS THE PLEEEAAAASEEE KEEP WARD AWAY FROM GGG THREAD..LOL, LOL, LOL. LOL I SAW THE OTHER thread, you guys are running like the plague from Ward. Making up threads to avoid what we all read this morning about GGG. he doesnt look so "FEARED" NOW. Isnt he fighting a cab driver this weekend?:doh: http://stevenarch.tymoon.eu/syrup/src/131662745877.jpg

I'll take ward. Kovalev has tremendous power but I don't know if stamina wise he could last a full 12 with Ward. I can't see ward having a problem with him. Stamina will definitely be the X-Factor. That's the one big and only (IMO) question mark for Kovalev right now. We don't know how he would look past the 4th round, and he throws a LOT of punches as well. Wards chin isn't untouchable, though... and if Boone can knock him down (Boone can knock anyone down) I think it's possible Kovalev can crack and drop him before it even gets to the 4th round. As crazy as that sounds, considering how great of a fighter Ward is. I just think Kovalev is that good.