Sure Floyd deserves grief for the things he does and says and its fun hating him and riling up the Fmoes, but come on now, Floyd is the superior boxer and would thoroughly outbox Manny.
I mean if they fought, can you honestly say Manny can outbox floyd? Pac's only chance was when he was prime and he could maybe hurt floyd but that Pac is looooong gone. He couldnt even take out Brandon freaking Rios, how is he gonna take out Floyd?
Add the fact that Pac doesnt take boxing seriously anymore and he's gone full religious retard, his edge and aggressiveness has totally been blunted, there is no conceivable way Pac beats floyd.
Be happy floyd is still surprisingly afraid to fight Pac and the court of public opinion is still somewhat on Manny's side and that the two of them will probably never fight, so Floyd and his miscreant minions can never get the satisfaction of beating Pac and vice versa.
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I don't think he was hurt in the Judah fight.
Pacquaio would hit him just like everyone's hit him but IMO I don't think he'd hit him consistently but again that's just my opinion.
Saying he can't avoid a straight left hand is just silly though IMO.
Don't get me wrong, Floyd can avoid left hands. I'm just saying, when you combine the overall package of Pacquiao, and factor in that he's a southpaw, and Floyd's been hit clean and even hurt against southpaws. It makes the fight that much more interesting.
I'm not saying that 100% Pac wins. I'm just saying, don't think that Floyd 100% wins. Even against an aged Pacquiao.
Edit: The most interesting match up in boxing.
he neutralized judah's left hand by walking through them like the terminator, peanut heart judah folded
then there's guerrero, that was pretty funny, guerrero firstly didn;t throw much of anything really, esspecially not a straight left, and man, when floyd jumped back seeing his slow ass legs trying to keep up, hilarious
the southpaws floyd has faced aren't exactly anything to right home about are they
I don't think he walked through them I think he just adjusted and took it away and then once his offense was rendered useless he went to work.
As for the last part, of course. Pacquaio would be by far the best southpaw he's faced by miles but the point I'm making is there's nothing to suggest that he's incapable of avoiding a straight left hand.
But in every fight against a southpaw, he's been legitimately hit clean, and even hurt on 2 occasions.
I don't think he was hurt in the Judah fight.
Pacquaio would hit him just like everyone's hit him but IMO I don't think he'd hit him consistently but again that's just my opinion.
Saying he can't avoid a straight left hand is just silly though IMO.
Not true either.
He's never shown that he's Incapable of avoiding a left hand and in every fight he's been in with a southpaw he's neutralised it.
he neutralized judah's left hand by walking through them like the terminator, peanut heart judah folded
then there's guerrero, that was pretty funny, guerrero firstly didn;t throw much of anything really, esspecially not a straight left, and man, when floyd jumped back seeing his slow ass legs trying to keep up, hilarious
the southpaws floyd has faced aren't exactly anything to right home about are they
Not true either.
He's never shown that he's Incapable of avoiding a left hand and in every fight he's been in with a southpaw he's neutralised it.
But in every fight against a southpaw, he's been legitimately hit clean, and even hurt on 2 occasions.
Sure Floyd deserves grief for the things he does and says and its fun hating him and riling up the Fmoes, but come on now, Floyd is the superior boxer and would thoroughly outbox Manny.
I mean if they fought, can you honestly say Manny can outbox floyd? Pac's only chance was when he was prime and he could maybe hurt floyd but that Pac is looooong gone. He couldnt even take out Brandon freaking Rios, how is he gonna take out Floyd?
Add the fact that Pac doesnt take boxing seriously anymore and he's gone full religious retard, his edge and aggressiveness has totally been blunted, there is no conceivable way Pac beats floyd.
Be happy floyd is still surprisingly afraid to fight Pac and the court of public opinion is still somewhat on Manny's side and that the two of them will probably never fight, so Floyd and his miscreant minions can never get the satisfaction of beating Pac and vice versa.
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how you figure? floyds right hand is longer, pacquiao's obviously has more power though
pacquiao throws every punch in the book and beyond with his left, loopy lefts around-and-behind the guard, double left hands(rios, would be two to the head or body-head), short left hooks(hatton) left hook to the body(morales, margarito), straight lefts go everyhere, pull back counter lefts, leaning in lefts, left uppercuts(busted margo's eye) and he mixes it in beautifuly in combo's
i think pacquiao's left trumps floyds to be honest, atleast in terms of versatilityI agree. Mayweather is famous for his fast accurate arrow straight right hand. Pacquiao has a straight left that is just as fast and accurate with more power. He also has perfected his left hook and left uppercut to a higher degree than Mayweather has done with his right..
He doesn't walk right into it, but he's always in the angle to get hit by it, but at the same time he always manages to get off first. I'm not sure how he'd get away with it against guys like Lara and Pacquiao who have good timing of their own right when it comes to getting their straight left hand off first.
Not true either.
He's never shown that he's Incapable of avoiding a left hand and in every fight he's been in with a southpaw he's neutralised it.
Manny walks through Floyd like a door way. It will look like Madiana/Broner...but severely a worst outcome. Floyds puffy punches clinching and little rolling of the shoudler will never be enough to stop a machine like Manny. He knows it and is why he has been avoiding it for years.
That's the thing. Floyd won't even be able to use the shoulder roll as much as he'd like on Pac. Pac is his kryptonite.
And I don't mean that in the way like Pac will demolish this guy. I mean that in the way that Pac's style and fighting stance are all wrong for Floyd.
Pacquiao is an ELITE southpaw, and Floyd has to use his high guard for the fight.
As long as those 2 things exist in this equation, Floyd will not beat Pac.
I'm not gonna be naive, and say Pac definitely wins, but even a shot Pac has a great chance against Floyd.
how you figure? floyds right hand is longer, pacquiao's obviously has more power though
pacquiao throws every punch in the book and beyond with his left, loopy lefts around-and-behind the guard, double left hands(rios, would be two to the head or body-head), short left hooks(hatton) left hook to the body(morales, margarito), straight lefts go everyhere, pull back counter lefts, leaning in lefts, left uppercuts(busted margo's eye) and he mixes it in beautifuly in combo's
i think pacquiao's left trumps floyds to be honest, atleast in terms of versatility
I disagree.
Yes, it is. But is it enough to beat Floyd with it? I doubt it. Floyd's right hand is better than Manny's straight left. Floyd can uses his right hand in various ways.
how you figure? floyds right hand is longer, pacquiao's obviously has more power though
pacquiao throws every punch in the book and beyond with his left, loopy lefts around-and-behind the guard, double left hands(rios, would be two to the head or body-head), short left hooks(hatton) left hook to the body(morales, margarito), straight lefts go everyhere, pull back counter lefts, leaning in lefts, left uppercuts(busted margo's eye) and he mixes it in beautifuly in combo's
i think pacquiao's left trumps floyds to be honest, atleast in terms of versatility
Sure Floyd deserves grief for the things he does and says and its fun hating him and riling up the Fmoes, but come on now, Floyd is the superior boxer and would thoroughly outbox Manny.
I mean if they fought, can you honestly say Manny can outbox floyd? Pac's only chance was when he was prime and he could maybe hurt floyd but that Pac is looooong gone. He couldnt even take out Brandon freaking Rios, how is he gonna take out Floyd?
Add the fact that Pac doesnt take boxing seriously anymore and he's gone full religious retard, his edge and aggressiveness has totally been blunted, there is no conceivable way Pac beats floyd.
Be happy floyd is still surprisingly afraid to fight Pac and the court of public opinion is still somewhat on Manny's side and that the two of them will probably never fight, so Floyd and his miscreant minions can never get the satisfaction of beating Pac and vice versa.
http://most.444.hu/assets/sites/2/out.gifI am glad you are so dead sure Floyd would win. I don't give Mayweather credit for beating Pacquiao until he does it in a ring. I don't think Pacquiao is long gone. He is very much still here and still a great little fighter with more speed, more punches per round, and a completely different style than anyone Mayweather ever fought. Pacquiao would not try to outbox Mayweather. He would be coming to fight him. The way Pacquiao hit Rios with 4 or 5 punch combos with every punch landing clean and not getting in return was amazing. I have never seen Mayweather do that. Floyd is a sharp shooter but 2 or 3 punches at a time is his limit. If everybody was as sure as you are that Floyd would win there would be no demand for a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight and of course there is a great demand for the fight. Many of us don't know who would win until they actually fight in the ring. Judging by his actions Floyd is not at all sure he would beat Pacquiao. Let's see how Pacquiao does against Bradley.If Pacquiao can't beat Bradley then he probably can't beat Floyd. But if Pacquiao can kick Bradley's ass then his chances of beating Mayweather look pretty good to me.
Even one of the commentators pointed it out during the Guerrero fight. Guerrero was just too gun-shy to do anything about it, but I'm not sure if Lara or Manny would be as wary to throw their best punch if the angle is there.
close fight back in 09, still a close fight now
floyds defense for the straight left is laughable, and people seriously overlook pacquiao's right hand, that right that comes after his left hand and over the shoulder(kd'd cotto), follows the similar pattern to mosleys left jab and right hand
and pacquiao's counter right is solid too, he can hurt floyd with that as floyd is reaching for the southpaws body same way judah caught floyd
floyd's right to the head along with that reach will be absolute hell for pacquiao though, so, close fight as they stand atm, in my opinion
nuh uh that not true mayflower the best doe
I've seen you say this before.
I don't know how you can watch his fights with southpaws and come to such a poor observation.
He doesn't walk right into it, but he's always in the angle to get hit by it, but at the same time he always manages to get off first. I'm not sure how he'd get away with it against guys like Lara and Pacquiao who have good timing of their own right when it comes to getting their straight left hand off first.
close fight back in 09, still a close fight now
floyds defense for the straight left is laughable, and people seriously overlook pacquiao's right hand, that right that comes after his left hand and over the shoulder(kd'd cotto), follows the similar pattern to mosleys left jab and right hand
and pacquiao's counter right is solid too, he can hurt floyd with that as floyd is reaching for the southpaws body same way judah caught floyd
floyd's right to the head along with that reach will be absolute hell for pacquiao though, so, close fight as they stand atm, in my opinion