RT:One of the opposition frontmen Vitaly Klitchko has been calling for an outright offensive, but when we asked him on camera, he softened his stance saying he's doing his best to keep the unrest peaceful. Why the sudden change of heart?
GP: Vitaly Klitchko is a decent individual essentially. However, in this he is simply being mal-used by those who are more adroit and more adept, and exploiting the fact that he is perhaps not necessarily the most intelligent of characters. What we have got now is a real drive to overthrow the government by Batkivshchina led by Yatsenyuk and Svoboda. He knows that if Tymoshenko is released then his tenure as a caretaker leader of that party is over. In any case the election for a new president of Ukraine is only a year away, and you have two parties who have huge interests – Batkivshchina and Svoboda – who have effectively allied, pushed for that election now, and they believe that in that case they can position their men – Yatsenuk or Tyahnybok as a president of Ukraine. Klitchko doesn’t see, what’s going on. Effectively they are putting the bodies of the fundamentalists on the front line.
://rt.com/op-edge/ukraine-western-news-filtered-opposition-088/
No stance at all on this, I barely know about Ukraine politics. I just hope for the best resolution for the Ukranian people.
I founded news worthy, because it involves Vitalt!
Then I'm happy to let you know that Vitali is seeking to reform, modernize and bring his native country closer to EU standards in many ways.
they are fighting for freedom. Not because EU not because Russia Not because America. Those people there have no facebook for example they see on net what government give them.
They have started rebellion and what doe's government do they forbid protest and they say whoever wears a helmet on protest must go to jail for 10year..I mean what kind of government is that.
Correct me if I'm wrong. I have read a lot about that situation on reddit and news in general. :)
I wish he comes back in the ring where he truly belongs. But Vitali is a warrior, you never know hw far he is able to go. He is putting his life in danger!
I give him a couple of months. You don't **** with Russians.
Well, sometimes you "fuck with Russians"... even if you have to die into the process... That's how it goes...
Do you have a personal stance on this, or you're just copy pasting BS?
No stance at all on this, I barely know about Ukraine politics. I just hope for the best resolution for the Ukranian people.
I founded news worthy, because it involves Vitalt!
I won't pretend to be well-schooled on this, but Vitali is on the Russians' side here from what I read.
You have no idea about what's happening there...
You better leave it... No offence...
RT:One of the opposition frontmen Vitaly Klitchko has been calling for an outright offensive, but when we asked him on camera, he softened his stance saying he's doing his best to keep the unrest peaceful. Why the sudden change of heart?
GP: Vitaly Klitchko is a decent individual essentially. However, in this he is simply being mal-used by those who are more adroit and more adept, and exploiting the fact that he is perhaps not necessarily the most intelligent of characters. What we have got now is a real drive to overthrow the government by Batkivshchina led by Yatsenyuk and Svoboda. He knows that if Tymoshenko is released then his tenure as a caretaker leader of that party is over. In any case the election for a new president of Ukraine is only a year away, and you have two parties who have huge interests – Batkivshchina and Svoboda – who have effectively allied, pushed for that election now, and they believe that in that case they can position their men – Yatsenuk or Tyahnybok as a president of Ukraine. Klitchko doesn’t see, what’s going on. Effectively they are putting the bodies of the fundamentalists on the front line.
://rt.com/op-edge/ukraine-western-news-filtered-opposition-088/
I'll repeat....
The source of riot violence is quite tricky there...
In the days of the protests in Kiev, the most radical activists on Independence Square created the Right Sector movement, which took an active part in the clashes with police on 19 January.
They usually wear masks, helmets and protection for their hands and feet, and carry sticks or iron bars in case of confrontation with riot police.
According to some members of the Right Sector, the movement incorporates several far-right groups including Patriot of Ukraine, Trident and others.
However, one of the Right Sector activists, known as Neil Khasevych, told the BBC that none of those groups were formally affiliated with the movement.
He said the Right Sector was an autonomous organisation with no leaders or formal membership.
Their actions are mostly spontaneous, but the activists were preparing to take part in violent actions from the beginning of the protests, he said.
The backbone of the organisation in Kiev is formed by Russian-speaking football fans sharing nationalist views.
To communicate with its supporters, the Right Sector uses the website of the nationalist organisation Trident, and pages on Facebook and the social network Vkontakte.
Most of its activists have a negative attitude towards Russia's government and are against Ukraine joining the Customs Union.
But unlike other protesters in Independence Square, most of the Right Sector activists do not support the idea of joining the EU, which they consider to be an "oppressor of European nations".
The organisation believes the current situation is an opportunity "to destroy the state skeleton" and start building a new state.
The Right Sector does not associate itself with the parliamentary opposition parties, including the nationalist Svoboda, which it considers to be too liberal and conformist.
All three opposition leaders, including former world boxing champion Vitali Klitschko, have criticised the Right Sector's attack on the police lines and dubbed the radical activists provocateurs.
This thread will be about politics and political views.
Soooo.........
Hey Vitali, Bermane Stiverne is looking for you!
I know next to nothing about the situation in Ukraine, so I will just reply to this.
Stiverne is not looking for Vitali. He is a decent fighter (by today's HW standards), but he doesn't have the footwork/agility to complement his hands down style. He would be a sitting duck against Vitali. Tbh I'm not even sure he can beat Arreola in a rematch. In the first fight, when Arreola really put punches together (which he didn't do nearly enough), he had little trouble landing on Stiverne.
Any article by Russia Today about Ukraine is propaganda BullSH1T. Just so you know.
President Yanukovych is Putin's b1tch, Vitali is Yanukovych's main and most dangerous opponent hence = Russia Today, a media outlet for the West tries to discredit Vitali and try to portray him as being a bad guy or not fit for the job.
As I say, B.S - I stopped reading or paying any attention to RT articles...
Makes me sick that American media is talking about Justin Beiber and hardly mention this.
not surprising. america typically stays out of the russian sphere of influence and besides, the media already has it's hands full covering the russian mess that is sochi.
Nah - Vitalis in favour of closer links to the EU. The present Government have strong trading links with Russia and the ex-Soviet trading block which will be put under threat by the proposed trade agreement with EU.
Okay, my bad.
I won't pretend to be well-schooled on this, but Vitali is on the Russians' side here from what I read.
Nah - Vitalis in favour of closer links to the EU. The present Government have strong trading links with Russia and the ex-Soviet trading block which will be put under threat by the proposed trade agreement with EU.
I give him a couple of months. You don't **** with Russians.
I won't pretend to be well-schooled on this, but Vitali is on the Russians' side here from what I read.
Do you have a personal stance on this, or you're just copy pasting BS?
You sound like you perhaps do have a personal stance...care to elucidate?
I'm not winding you up, just genuinely curious to find out more about the situation. I think I've got something of a handle on the larger political aspects, but am interested in hearing other peoples opinions.
Do you have a personal stance on this, or you're just copy pasting BS?
It seems like a reasoned and potentially accurate political commentary from someone presumably close to and/or well informed about the circumstances.
RT reports on this particular political fights certainly do need to be taken with a grain of salt, but their contemporary reporting record is certainly no worse, and perhaps arguably better, than the typical standard among 'Western' (I.e. UK and especially US) media these days.
A desire to be informed about this situation doesn't require having a dog in the fight. The posted excerpts are relevant.