Which of Ariza's fighters have been knocked out of their senses?

Duckweather Jr. reeeeeeeeeeee-porting. :rofl: :rofl:

Wasn't Roach the first one to pick him up? So I believe Ariza may not really have a lot of fighters he really worked with. If the juice kept Pac up on his feet how come none of the Mexicans could knock him down pre-Ariza? So pac is ariza's fighter now? The only people entitled to be somebody's fighter are trainers, as for ariza his job is to make sure a boxer doesn't go hungry whilw training.

Wasn't Roach the first one to pick him up?So I believe Ariza may not really have a lot of fighters he really worked with. If the juice kept Pac up on his feet how come none of the Mexicans could knock him down pre-Ariza? yah i think ariza was a s&c coach for diego corrales for his fight with floyd. and we all know how that fight turned out. don't know who else he worked with though. i don't think ariza contributed much to pac's camp...justin fortune even said that ariza pretty much continued the same workouts that he was doing with pac (then again this could be fortune being spiteful)...and pac was weighing in at 148 on fight night at 130 (before ariza)..so his move up to 147 was inevitable anyways with or without ariza.

When did ariza had a fighter? Wasn't Roach the first one to pick him up? So I believe Ariza may not really have a lot of fighters he really worked with. If the juice kept Pac up on his feet how come none of the Mexicans could knock him down pre-Ariza?

When did ariza had a fighter?

Duckweather Jr. reeeeeeeeeeee-porting.

Sally Ekbach has been accused of butt smuggling mexican muscle milk during an ariza camp. you have been warned. http://markmunozmma.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/IMG00286-20101206-23311.jpg

There is no reason for Ariza to be in the corner...the guy is becoming a trainwreck for the sport and any fighter who cares about their image or legacy would be wise to not openly conduct business with him. Guys like Ariza should stay tucked away, he should be a name and a face thats it. Much like Suge Knight, Ariza insisting on getting public recognition for being a personal trainer is the whole reason this thing is hanging over his and all his fighters heads. While I cannot prove that he does anything that is flat out cheating, his actions and all the speculation, combined with Roach now denying any knowledge of what Ariza was administering to Manny, Khan or anyone it would seem...Ariza is one dumb move away from being unemployed. He just seems like a guilty defendant with a smirk on his face like a mafia don, like try to catch me...and if he keeps doing this **** and is giving fighters PED's allegedly without telling the fighter, trainer anyone and is caught, it could be more trouble than just getting ban from boxing, he could face legal and civil actions that would ruin his whole life. As I said, I think he's sketchy and sadly if Manny did ever use, it's possible he didn't know at first, then did and wanted away from the situation and now with Roach making statements, i feel they think Ariza may say he did either way to ruin them...he already kicked Roach on camera, so the anger and personal level are high with both and Ariza seems to be mad about money recognition and may try to sink Manny if he gets desperate. Just my opinion.

he landed like 12 punches on pac the entire fight Khan's conditionoing coach for Garcia was Tabaras.

The stronger you are and the better the conditioning the better you will take a punch. When you get tired a punch will have more effect,PEDs can upgrade both your strength and conditioning so you don't tire as much. well from lucero (2003) all the way to marquez 2 (2008) pac wasn't knocked down ..and this was before ariza...even rios (who is a pretty big puncher) landed a few clean shots on pac..and pac took them okay. i don't think ariza has much of anything to do with it despite what he says (which i feel is just him saying whatever to maintain his reputation as a strength and conditioning coach)...

how do peds help you take a punch?

Pacquiao who Ariza said was NOT doing his conditioning work and instead chose to focus on boxing. Anyone else? Jorge Linares...

i thought ariza was still with him in the gracia fight??? no? Nope, Ariza and Khan parted ways a few fights (i think 2) before that Khans strength coach is that black guy who trains athletes i forgot his name He wasnt his coach for the Garcia fight thats 100% sure, also Ariza claimed while under him Khan never touched the canvas

it's all but impossible to believe that ariza isn't a PED guy, especially in light of rios popping positive. i think manny was on the gas during his peak.

Manny pacquiao

Which fight? Khan and Ariza parted ways long time before he got TKO'd i thought ariza was still with him in the gracia fight??? no?

Umm.. Khan? Which fight? Khan and Ariza parted ways long time before he got TKO'd

Umm.. Khan?