Rigondeaux 122-130 nobody is touching him. Including Santa Cruz, Mares
Lara- nobody is beating him at 154. MAYBE Floyd, but id pick Lara over Floyd.
Gamboa- I can't say he beats Mikey definitely. He IS faster than Garcia and has more expierence.
Now Barth.
Are Cuban fighters the most dominant force in boxing? Who is next to come of the island a wreck havoc?
Cubans over all fight a well fought fight. They aren't predominantly brawlers, they are of the mentality of hit and don't get hit. Get in - do your punch and get out. Last fight Pac Man was fighting more like a Cuban. The way they fight will add years to their ability to remain in the ring versus having a very short career due to brawling and taking to many punches to the head.
Am currently starting to look for sparring partners for my Cuban boxer (welter weight) and good luck to them as he has a boxing style that hasn't been seen before. Am looking forward to the bouts at the Jai Alai Casino - i will be there with my boxer ringside. Come by and say hello.
Age often gives one a perspective: As a 50 year old I have heard of how the Cubans were going down, yada yada yada....But I have never seen it that way. Olympic boxing, when it was at its Zenith and probably on a par with any professional program(s)....was dominated by Cuban fighters. people used to say "but those guys would get manhandled if they fought professionally" and I have seen this happen all of once. When Gonzalez was turned into a balding mrs by Riddick Bowe....Most often? Cuban fighters have been superb. Even when not in shape Cuban fighters always are technically excellent.
The best of our talent often have Olympic experience....And the best fighter I have ever seen with my own eyes is Telepeo Stevenson.
The Cubans are exceptional. For such a small island they have made a major impact on boxing. Give me a Cuban technician any day and Aztec warriors will fall, Euro stiffies will be bedazzled and American talent will be chastened. you can even see the influence of Cuba over Puerto Rico where guys like Cotto ae more technically sound than given credit for.
Green K sent this is a great post :boxing:
Age often gives one a perspective: As a 50 year old I have heard of how the Cubans were going down, yada yada yada....But I have never seen it that way. Olympic boxing, when it was at its Zenith and probably on a par with any professional program(s)....was dominated by Cuban fighters. people used to say "but those guys would get manhandled if they fought professionally" and I have seen this happen all of once. When Gonzalez was turned into a balding mrs by Riddick Bowe....Most often? Cuban fighters have been superb. Even when not in shape Cuban fighters always are technically excellent.
The best of our talent often have Olympic experience....And the best fighter I have ever seen with my own eyes is Telepeo Stevenson.
The Cubans are exceptional. For such a small island they have made a major impact on boxing. Give me a Cuban technician any day and Aztec warriors will fall, Euro stiffies will be bedazzled and American talent will be chastened. you can even see the influence of Cuba over Puerto Rico where guys like Cotto ae more technically sound than given credit for.
I'm in your age bracket. I've been waiting nearly my whole life to watch my boys go pro and show what they can do. Casamayor gave an idea, but he was just one guy. He wasn't enough to truly gauge Cuban professionals versus the rest of the world. Now I've seen enough. Cubans aren't just great amateurs, they're demonstrating that they can be great pros, too.
By the way, the name is Teofilo. And, yes, he was great.
Rigondeaux 122-130 nobody is touching him. Including Santa Cruz, Mares
Lara- nobody is beating him at 154. MAYBE Floyd, but id pick Lara over Floyd.
Gamboa- I can't say he beats Mikey definitely. He IS faster than Garcia and has more expierence.
Now Barth.
Are Cuban fighters the most dominant force in boxing? Who is next to come of the island a wreck havoc?
Age often gives one a perspective: As a 50 year old I have heard of how the Cubans were going down, yada yada yada....But I have never seen it that way. Olympic boxing, when it was at its Zenith and probably on a par with any professional program(s)....was dominated by Cuban fighters. people used to say "but those guys would get manhandled if they fought professionally" and I have seen this happen all of once. When Gonzalez was turned into a balding mrs by Riddick Bowe....Most often? Cuban fighters have been superb. Even when not in shape Cuban fighters always are technically excellent.
The best of our talent often have Olympic experience....And the best fighter I have ever seen with my own eyes is Telepeo Stevenson.
The Cubans are exceptional. For such a small island they have made a major impact on boxing. Give me a Cuban technician any day and Aztec warriors will fall, Euro stiffies will be bedazzled and American talent will be chastened. you can even see the influence of Cuba over Puerto Rico where guys like Cotto ae more technically sound than given credit for.
its their amateur style that is painful to watch on television that is holding them back.
Don't paint all our fighters with the same brush. Sure, guys like Rigo, Lara and Abril don't engage enough for most people's taste; but you've got guys like Gamboa, Perez and Hernandez, too. They're exciting fighters. You can add Barthelemy to that list now. As time goes on, there will be more Cubans in the pro ranks. Their style will change accordingly. Watch them thrive....
Cubans will never take over but they'll always have a couple dominant fighters in the pro ranks. It's politics which hold them back, if that changes, they'll be like Mexico.
its their amateur style that is painful to watch on television that is holding them back.
Dont leave out Abril who is effective and Yoan Pablo Hernandez who has been very dominant.
Even Luis Franco a huge underdog got a draw against Javier Fortuna who had all the hype
The only things that sets them back is the politics and not enough ethnic following, but the skills are there
January 18th at the Jai-Alai casino. Not too far from where I live, I'm definitely there.
It's being promoted on local radio... people here are getting a buzz for local fighters. It's a good start I guess...
Awesome. It's gotta start somewhere.
El Maja fights in a couple of weeks. I'd love to see him go places. As we've discussed before, they need to start promoting these guys in Miami. As awareness grows, so will the interest. Everyone loves a winner.
January 18th at the Jai-Alai casino. Not too far from where I live, I'm definitely there.
It's being promoted on local radio... people here are getting a buzz for local fighters. It's a good start I guess...
Hernandez trained at a local Miami gym I did when in high school. would love to see him rise just like i would Socarras and many other local up and comers.
El Maja fights in a couple of weeks. I'd love to see him go places. As we've discussed before, they need to start promoting these guys in Miami. As awareness grows, so will the interest. Everyone loves a winner.
I could see Lara,Rigondeaux and Gamboa having a great year in 2014. If Lara gets that Canelo fight this year and beats him. Gamboa vs Garcia is a solid match up also if Gamboa beats Mikey. Rigondeaux contract with TR expires in July 2014. If he signs with GBP he can get fights with Mares/Gonzalez winner or Santa Cruz.
If Lara gets a Canelo fight and Gamboa beats Mikey no doubt there will be a rebolution.
I'm not even sure I would call it an upset. I like Joey's chances.
Hernandez trained at a local Miami gym I did when in high school. would love to see him rise just like i would Socarras and many other local up and comers.
I could see Lara,Rigondeaux and Gamboa having a great year in 2014. If Lara gets that Canelo fight this year and beats him. Gamboa vs Garcia is a solid match up also if Gamboa beats Mikey. Rigondeaux contract with TR expires in July 2014. If he signs with GBP he can get fights with Mares/Gonzalez winner or Santa Cruz.
up vote. abril is the cuban version of carlos molina.
richard "pastilla de dormir" abril
Richie's tough to watch, man, but he's a legit champ. Guys like him and Molina have to make do with what God gave them, 'cause they sure ain't making it on talent alone. lol
lmao
Who knows? We might even be hearing more from your boy, Joey Hernandez. He has that "K9" fight coming up on the 24th. I think Joey can pull it off. I wish him well.
Twinkle Fingers might pull an upset on K9 like Powell did.
He might be shopping for Rios' birthday like all great dads do.
Nah, Molina leads with clinches
Abril throws before he ties up, at least :lol1:
Holy shit...you guys are killing me! lmao! :lol1: