1st of all I love me some chino but people are going nuts with him after beating AB.
He defeated nothing but a brawler in Josesito And won a pretty closed one against a decent SK,schooled by Thurman afterwards...And now all of sudden he is the front runner to face FMJ?
Chino is an inside fighter with no footwork and weak defense.he has no business with floyd nor Thurman,García...Even Alexander schooled him.
Bring him some Mathysse.provo type guys And they ll give us a war,figuring out he GOT a chance against some A real boxers is delusional.
I hope Floyd gives Maidana the shot! It only makes sense...why fight a non-Hispanic on Cinco De Mayweather weekend? That's the whole selling point, fight a Hispanic on that day!
Hell, Maidana earned all the Mexican fans' respect after coming out to "Jefe de Jefes" by Los Tigres, and proceeding to give Broner the beating of his life.
Mayweather-Khan would only make sense if it happens in the UK.
Who isn't over rated today? Hell the guys with the belts are over rated too!!!!
There is no top ten let alone top fifteen, the weight classes are so thin that anyone with any stamina and a little skill could actually be in the top twenty-five!
No offense to Canelo, Geruero, Berto, Ortiz but these young men would never be close to the top fifteen when boxing had a strong contenders line up!
Lil Broner would carry Sugar Rays gym bag!
I appreciate Madiana and lil Rocky and Tim Bradley but these guys would be blown out against legit welterweights. Imagine these young fellows in with Gavalin? They'd be chopped up, bloodied and disoriented inside of 6 rounds!
Love their heart and desire but they're ALL over hyped today, everyone! Ray.
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He stands the same chances against Floyd that he had coming into the Broner . A tougher fight but definitely winnable
Thats exactly the hype i was refering to....
So, according to you theory no fighter can improve other than by his opponents??... A hockey player can't skate faster unless he faces a poor team, a tennis player can't serve faster unless he's facing a dummy??...
Suggestion my friend: why don't you re-read yourself a bit instead of digging deeper in your lost twisted hole...
You will only be able to tell if he's really improved when he fights the kinds of guys he's been losing clearly too - i.e Khan and Alexander or guys with similar styles.
It's not long ago people were saying Devon Alexander had "improved" since he went up to welterweight. People said he was "more aggressive" against Purdy.....uh yeah cos the guy stood there like a punching bag and allowed him to get off whatever he wanted.
You're only as good as who you fight. He has been allowed to show more things against a bunch of opponents who fought him in a way which suited him down to the ground.
For example, him being "more active" may have something to do with the fact he's been fighting guys who stand in front of him and allow him to get off more shots.
So, according to you theory no fighter can improve other than by his opponents??... A hockey player can't skate faster unless he faces a poor team, a tennis player can't serve faster unless he's facing a dummy??...
Suggestion my friend: why don't you re-read yourself a bit instead of digging deeper in your lost twisted hole...
Except against Kotelnik, Khan and Alexander you mean?
Come on now...the kotelnik fight was very close, khan survived by the skin of his teeth, and the alexander fight was a complete and utter disgrace of a fight with devon clinching 170+ times.
Who said he has improved because of that reason, other than yourself?... He has improved some of his techniques, has a better jab and is more active, plain and simple. What the heck does it have anything to do with his opponents?... He could have faced Butterbean and still has improved. You see the result of his improvements against his opponents, but they're not the source of the improvements. Sounds pretty simple to me.
You're only as good as who you fight. He has been allowed to show more things against a bunch of opponents who fought him in a way which suited him down to the ground.
For example, him being "more active" may have something to do with the fact he's been fighting guys who stand in front of him and allow him to get off more shots.
If anything people are UNDERRATING maidana because almost everytime the dude is a big underdog he steps up to the plate and wins.
Except against Kotelnik, Khan and Alexander you mean?
As I was reading the very first paragraph of your post I was thinking "this guy is pretty much mentioning why he DOES deserve the credit he is getting". Maidana has gotten some solid wins any way you slice it and Broner was the icing on the cake.
It is obvious he is not much of a technician or a dynamic fighter BUT what he does do, he does damn well. Decent jab, beautiful head/body combinations, awkward punches that are hard to predict... with a heart and balls of stone. He is a real problem.
He stands the same chances against Floyd that he had coming into the Broner fight. Thing is, Floyd is not flat footed and does master moving his upper body. A tougher fight but definitely winnable. Anything can happen in the sport of fighting, we've seen that time and time again.
This idea that he's "improved" just because he's fought a string of opponents with favourable styles is quite annoying.
Who said he has improved because of that reason, other than yourself?... He has improved some of his techniques, has a better jab and is more active, plain and simple. What the heck does it have anything to do with his opponents?... He could have faced Butterbean and still has improved. You see the result of his improvements against his opponents, but they're not the source of the improvements. Sounds pretty simple to me.
Ohhh so now cause maidana beat broner it was a "favorable style" lol but before the fight actually took place maidana was made to order for broner and broner was supposed to "floyd/gatti" maidana.
Admittedly I thought Broner would win because I thought he was capable of moving. However, that fight showed that he really is just flatfooted. He stood right in front of Maidana. Give Maidana some movement and he's back to the same fighter he always was.
This idea that he's "improved" just because he's fought a string of opponents with favourable styles is quite annoying.
Ohhh so now cause maidana beat broner it was a "favorable style" lol but before the fight actually took place maidana was made to order for broner and broner was supposed to "floyd/gatti" maidana.
If anything people are UNDERRATING maidana because almost everytime the dude is a big underdog he steps up to the plate and wins.
he has no chance against Floyd but pretty much no one his size does. I dont like how people keep bringing up Alexander like no one can improve. It was his 1st fight at a different weight. He's a much better fighter then the one Alexander beat
1st of all I love me some chino but people are going nuts with him after beating AB.
He defeated nothing but a brawler in Josesito And won a pretty closed one against a decent SK,schooled by Thurman afterwards...And now all of sudden he is the front runner to face FMJ?
Chino is an inside fighter with no footwork and weak defense.he has no business with floyd nor Thurman,García...Even Alexander schooled him.
Bring him some Mathysse.provo type guys And they ll give us a war,figuring out he GOT a chance against some A real boxers is delusional.He certainly is not the frontrunner to fight Mayweather next. He is not in the running at all. There is only one boxer that will fight Mayweather in May and it was decided by the people in charge many weeks ago. Unless he has an injury in training camp Khan will definitely absolutely be fighting Mayweather in May. Broner was the fighter who was badly overrated. Maidana is a tough, game, hard hitting SOB.