I believe George Groves beats Andre Ward

I would like to see this fight happen if Froch doesn't give Groves the rematch. I got Ward beating Groves if they were to fight by dec.

Ward beats him down with ease. Groves vs Rodriguez would be interesting. Rodriguez probably takes it since he has the much better chin That's not a bad fight for either but I don't see it happening unless Groves signs to a US promoter. Watch George come to the US and sign up with Don King :lol1:

You two do realize Ward's nickname is saying he's A son of God, not THE son of God, right? I'm open to any semiotic modulation on that "nickname". But it still is a blasphemy from the perspective widely shared in my part of the world. I know that things are different in the U.S., though...

You two do realize Ward's nickname is saying he's A son of God, not THE son of God, right?

Groves is slippery as **** and will present ward with a live, constantly moving target unlike any of his last 4 opponents. Add to that his explosive power and Andre "Jesus reincarnate" Ward will have a serious fight on his hands. Only problem would be Groves' stamina. Boi needs to get on the hill sprints, don't know about now but before his morning run consisted of jogging slowly round a rugby pitch for half an hour. That **** ain't gonna fly at championship level. This is precisely a "holy gift" for Andre "Jesus reincarnate" Ward -- Ward is "stamina" personificated...

Groves is slippery as **** and will present ward with a live, constantly moving target unlike any of his last 4 opponents. Add to that his explosive power and Andre "Jesus reincarnate" Ward will have a serious fight on his hands. Only problem would be Groves' stamina. Boi needs to get on the hill sprints, don't know about now but before his morning run consisted of jogging slowly round a rugby pitch for half an hour. That **** ain't gonna fly at championship level.

Ward hasnt been beaten since he was 9 no way on earth os groves the one to end his streak but groves might just be his hardest match right now at 168 Ward can't be beaten -- because he doesn't even understand the term. If in whatever danger, Ward is capable of using the dirtiest possible tricks -- which he is usually presenting like nice boxes of chocolate...

Ward hasnt been beaten since he was 9 no way on earth os groves the one to end his streak but groves might just be his hardest match right now at 168

And even his performance against Froch was far from the domination people seem determined to remember it as. Groves was possibly within a round or two of getting stopped. Two fighters were victimized by the ref's decision, those who don't see it as such are bias.

Groves has talent but people are taking way too much from a good performance against an ageing Froch. I like Froch but the guy is slow, crude and clumsy at the best of times. Groves is still a prospect in my eyes, he needs time and work. Hes noway near ready for Ward. He ought to target maybe an Abraham, Rodriguez or Stieglitz. Maybe a Bika. And even his performance against Froch was far from the domination people seem determined to remember it as. Groves was possibly within a round or two of getting stopped.

Ward wins easily.

U must think Groves is the 2nd best fighter in world then. No. It's about a Ward's fight blueprint -- no matter who's in front of him and can throw a decent punch.

U must think Groves is the 2nd best fighter in world then.

... In the beginning, Ward would out-clinch and out-wrestle poor Groves to death... In the later rounds (after the ref fills the forms for sueing Ward, because of whatever improper ring behavior), Andre would unleash his usual speedy in-and-out slapping techniques -- which nobody can deal with. Ward by shootout UD (in case the ref doesn't stop the fight based on "tradition").

Ward by UD (or possible TKO if Groves fails to pace himself). I'm not quite sure what Groves brings that would particularly trouble Ward when he really struggled with another, inferior, spoiler in DeGale. As has been pointed out, the KD of Froch whilst impressive does not instantly confer elite status on him. In the end, early stoppage not withstanding, he was going to lose to Froch. He showed a good turn of speed and some power, but it's worth remembering that Froch has never been that hard to hit. Would his speed be a problem for Ward - well, no IMO - Ward has far better timing and accuracy and would throw Groves off his punches all night long IMO, whilst steadily attacking his body (as Froch did) - by the later rounds I'd expect Groves to be both exhausted and demoralised.

I really wouldn't want Groves facing Ward at the moment, needs a few more world level bouts before this :)

I believe cocaine is a hell of a drug. Groves looked good against Froch, and that was a god awful stoppage, but Ward is on another level. Ward will school Groves, if this fight happens.

Groves put up a good fight but he is beaten convincingly.

wanna see Groves do something else before saying such a thing it's possible the success with Froch was just a mirage if it was his arrival to top tier status, he's gotta prove it if he faced Ward right now, would expect him to lose a shutout and even if he got the Froch win, Froch's not Ward by any means don't know a whole lot about Groves, looking for an encore from him if he can beat another contender or Froch in a rematch, great then talk about him fighting Ward makes sense, but not yet

I think Groves would give it a good shot and represent himself and his future stock really well (like the Froch fight) but he ultimately loses to Ward in my opinion. Ward would figure him out and have an answer to him unlike Froch. That being said, I don't think he is ready for Ward at this point. Yes he just did really well against Froch and got a lot of people on board for him, but Ward is a different class as we all already know. In a year or so, presuming Groves stays impressive and wins a few good solid fights, I guess people would say he is ready, but Groves would still lose in my opinion, just can't see him beating Ward. But styles make fights and certain nights make fights, so who knows in this game...