If either fight was on regular showtime, I'd be satisfied by that. Kinda like when Oscar fought 2lb. He did that on network hbo. He did it as a bonifed ppv attraction. That's really the only way I see those fights being acceptable.
Never gonna happen
But if Floyd fought on network tv everyone and there momma Would see it he'd Prbly get paid better only thing is he doesn't have a net work tv attitude.
Just saying, trying to make the Floyd haters happy, if they want Floyd to lose it's not gonna be against a Brawler, it's gonna be against a Boxer.
IE Lara
I think Lara would have a decent chance. Thing is, that's never going on PPV, unless Lara were to force everyone's hand and beat Canelo in high profile fight or something. Lara is unknown to anyone outside this forum.
I'm a big Lara fan, and as a fan of his, I know the more realistic fight for him to get exposure is Canelo.
When will people leave that "brawler vs Floyd" thing along....98% Of Mayweathers opponents were brawlers, some were boxer brawlers, but how many counter punchers has Mayweather faced??? Zab Judah is a good example, dude easily won 5 out of the 12 rounds.
Lara Vs Floyd should be what everyone wants, it's clear that you are gonna have to outbox Floyd. And atlest Khan won't be looking to Brawl against Floyd.
Im just saying, don't people think it's time to give up on the Mayweather being ko'd thing? Lara in my opinion could easily possibly outpoin Floyd MAJORITY of the rounds. A win is a win.
LOL at Judah winning 5 rounds easily. He did jack after the first 4. He won 3-4 rounds, same as Oscar.
To this day, the person who did the best against Floyd wasn't anywhere close to a "boxer". It was Castillo.
i'd happily pay $70 for chino. he doesn't have a prayer, but he'll make for a nice contrast in style if he shows up in shape and commits to coming forward for 12 rounds. robert garcia will lay out the most realistic gameplan, and give him the best chance of landing the big punch mayweather is going to have a very easy time rolling chino's right hand. he follows you around, and doesn't throw it straight.
for me, mayweather fights are what they are. i've grown accustomed to paying $70 for a mismatch. i paid a hell of a lot more to get to vegas for the canelo fight. i just try and appreciate how good he is. especially at 147, he is not losing until he really starts to fade. considering how little damage he takes, i think we have a couple more years at least.
showtime has also been doing decent with their undercards of late. that's a nice gesture for guys like ourselves, who appreciate as much good boxing as they're willing to give. they're better than TR, for sure.
your plan with danny is also agreeable with me. danny's young, and he gets better with every fight. he boxed and used the ring against matthysse. he took the gas of the best puncher in the division, and finished the fight strong. i didn't know he could do those things so well before the matthysse fight.
another guy i am looking at closely is one time thurman. he can punch, move, and he looks like a very motivated guy. i also love dan birmingham. great trainer.
I think Maidana is a little bit better of a fight than Guerrero or Ortiz were, and I thought those were still legit/solid fights. You know Maidana isn't going to pull an Ortiz and mentally quit, and you know he's going to force Floyd to work 100% of every round.
But the thing is we really can. We saw the Ghost face Floyd on ppv didn't we? Lara has had an excellent year. Lara can't fight Canelo if Canelo won't fight him.
And besides while Lara is "fighting canelo", who'll Floyd be fighting again??
Hopefully not Khan. I've already voiced my feelings about that one.
But Maidana is a legit fight. Anyone else in the world around 140-147 could fight Maidana next, and it'd be labeled a good/solid fight at least. But if Floyd does, ohhhh cherry pick, cherry pick. Bradley and Pacquiao aren't happening for obvious reasons, and Danny doesn't seem to want it next. Who does that leave at 147??? I can't see the problem with Floyd unifying titles at WW right now, especially given Maidana is coming off 3 decent or solid wins.
Hopefully Canelo will fight Lara, and shut all of us up like he did against Trout, when he was supposedly going to duck Trout.
But hey you're right, you're right. You have a never ending need to be right about everything and for everyone to agree 100% with you on here.
How do you feel about Mayweather-Maidana in May???
I'm kind of hoping Floyd stays at 147, enough with the 154 stuff. I don't think he looks nearly as good at JMW. I don't mind Maidana in May. It's a unification, he's become a Top 5 WW probably after beating Karass, Lopez, and Broner. I think it's a solid fight, and the best realistic option at 147 at the moment. Khan is bull though.
I'd rather see Khan fight Victor Ortiz or something, so long as Ortiz doesn't lose to Collazo. In the meantime, have Danny Garcia fight someone like Guerrero, Paulie to get his feet wet at 147 and get a decent win there. Then have Danny and Floyd fight in September.
i'd happily pay $70 for chino. he doesn't have a prayer, but he'll make for a nice contrast in style if he shows up in shape and commits to coming forward for 12 rounds. robert garcia will lay out the most realistic gameplan, and give him the best chance of landing the big punch mayweather is going to have a very easy time rolling chino's right hand. he follows you around, and doesn't throw it straight.
for me, mayweather fights are what they are. i've grown accustomed to paying $70 for a mismatch. i paid a hell of a lot more to get to vegas for the canelo fight. i just try and appreciate how good he is. especially at 147, he is not losing until he really starts to fade. considering how little damage he takes, i think we have a couple more years at least.
showtime has also been doing decent with their undercards of late. that's a nice gesture for guys like ourselves, who appreciate as much good boxing as they're willing to give. they're better than TR, for sure.
your plan with danny is also agreeable with me. danny's young, and he gets better with every fight. he boxed and used the ring against matthysse. he took the gas of the best puncher in the division, and finished the fight strong. i didn't know he could do those things so well before the matthysse fight.
another guy i am looking at closely is one time thurman. he can punch, move, and he looks like a very motivated guy. i also love dan birmingham. great trainer.
But the thing is we really can. We saw the Ghost face Floyd on ppv didn't we? Lara has had an excellent year. Lara can't fight Canelo if Canelo won't fight him.
And besides while Lara is "fighting canelo", who'll Floyd be fighting again??
At least the Ghost was a 5 time champion with some decent wins on his record and avenged his only defeat if I remember correctly. He was pretty solid.
Lara is virtually unknown, even to boxing fans, and a PPV would not do well.
they would blow their entire boxing budget for a year on one fight. free
mayweather fight, no boxing for the rest of the year?
no thanks.
HBO would slaughter them in that year. they'd probably never recover.
I mean I agree. But I would never complain about a top fight being shown on network or cable.
Like who, Lara??? He's been at 154 three times, and all three times he doesn't look nearly as good at the weight. Canelo and Lara need to fight next. Plus if Lara were to beat a Canelo, if Canelo ever gives him that chance, his odds to land a fight like that skyrocket.
Why is it so hard to understand that as boxing fans we still can't realistically expect Lara on a PPV against Floyd??? I'd love to see it, but it's not a realistic option, so why waste time thinking about it???
But the thing is we really can. We saw the Ghost face Floyd on ppv didn't we? Lara has had an excellent year. Lara can't fight Canelo if Canelo won't fight him.
And besides while Lara is "fighting canelo", who'll Floyd be fighting again??
Stay away from 154 for real. That's where the danger is after all right?
Like who, Lara??? The unbeatable Erislandy Lara who lost to Carlos Molina??? I'm kidding, I like Lara, but his hype has skyrocketed on here since beating Trout.
He's been at 154 three times, and all three times he doesn't look nearly as good at the weight. Canelo and Lara need to fight next. Plus if Lara were to beat a Canelo, if Canelo ever gives him that chance, his odds to land a fight like that skyrocket.
Why is it so hard to understand that as boxing fans we still can't realistically expect Lara on a PPV against Floyd??? I'd love to see it, but it's not a realistic option, so why waste time thinking about it???
How do you feel about Mayweather-Maidana in May???
I'm kind of hoping Floyd stays at 147, enough with the 154 stuff. I don't think he looks nearly as good at JMW. I don't mind Maidana in May. It's a unification, he's become a Top 5 WW probably after beating Karass, Lopez, and Broner. I think it's a solid fight, and the best realistic option at 147 at the moment. Khan is bull though.
I'd rather see Khan fight Victor Ortiz or something, so long as Ortiz doesn't lose to Collazo. In the meantime, have Danny Garcia fight someone like Guerrero, Paulie to get his feet wet at 147 and get a decent win there. Then have Danny and Floyd fight in September.
Stay away from 154 for real. That's where the danger is after all right?
I wouldn't complain about Floyd-Maidana on anything. Maidana is coming off 3 decent wins at 147, he's the best possible option that's realistic at WW.
Khan, I would complain if it was PPV or regular SHO. That's a garbage fight until Khan does something again.
4 Corners FTW!!
they would blow their entire boxing budget for a year on one fight. free
mayweather fight, no boxing for the rest of the year?
no thanks.
HBO would slaughter them in that year. they'd probably never recover.
How do you feel about Mayweather-Maidana in May???
I'm kind of hoping Floyd stays at 147, enough with the 154 stuff. I don't think he looks nearly as good at JMW. I don't mind Maidana in May. It's a unification, he's become a Top 5 WW probably after beating Karass, Lopez, and Broner. I think it's a solid fight, and the best realistic option at 147 at the moment. Khan is bull though.
I'd rather see Khan fight Victor Ortiz or something, so long as Ortiz doesn't lose to Collazo. In the meantime, have Danny Garcia fight someone like Guerrero, Paulie to get his feet wet at 147 and get a decent win there. Then have Danny and Floyd fight in September.
I wouldn't complain about Floyd-Maidana on anything. Maidana is coming off 3 decent wins at 147, he's the best possible option that's realistic at WW.
Khan, I would complain if it was PPV or regular SHO. That's a garbage fight until Khan does something again.
danny garcia is a much better fight.
you guys have to realize that floyd mayweather's guarantee alone is more than the networks spend on boxing for the year.
this is not play money we are talking about. i know now that a lot of you simply cannot understand that.