Is Sergio a coward for not fighting GGG?

Is there an actual reason as to why Martinez won't fight Golovkin? Seems like it would be an easy fight to make. I haven't really been following it. Lou DiBella has been talking nonsense excuses for a while now arguing against the fight. If Martinez beats Cotto and doesn't hurt himself, it pretty much has to happen for Martinez to still be considered the legitimate middleweight champ. I get the money thing... the thing is what comes after. Rubio, fine that's your mandatory if you want to keep the belt... but don't unification take priority over mandos? If not, then after that still one HBO fight left.... who is it? Ward? I'm fine with that, but doubt it happens. Lou has been talking a lot of crap. I remember they'd rip him and say he'd need to fight Stevens to prove his worth... haven't heard much since after that. If they can find a better opponent than Golovkin to finish their one last fight, then take it...only person I can think of is Ward though

Is there an actual reason as to why Martinez won't fight Golovkin? Seems like it would be an easy fight to make. I haven't really been following it. Lou DiBella has been talking nonsense excuses for a while now arguing against the fight. If Martinez beats Cotto and doesn't hurt himself, it pretty much has to happen for Martinez to still be considered the legitimate middleweight champ.

Ward already beat all the best fighters. You never saw Ward say oh I'm not going to fight the #1 guy in the division. bute? Stevenson also was #1 at 175 and said he would fight ward at 168 but instead we got rodriguez. these guys all only look for certain opponents Floyd style.

Is there an actual reason as to why Martinez won't fight Golovkin? Seems like it would be an easy fight to make. I haven't really been following it.

The best are supposed to fight the best if not retire. Sergio is the champ at 160 Golovkin is #1 challenger. No excuses. He might as well though. All the other star fighters do it. Even my dude Ward is trying to do it right now.

And yet Cotto asked for a 150 pound catchweight against Margarito in the rematch. Things that make you go Hmmmmmm But wait, there's more. Remember Pac saying he's topped out at 147, not going back up again? Here's Cotto taunting him for not being willing to meet him at 150. Why can Marg get 150, and not Cotto? Does Pac fear him? Then Pac offers 150, and Cotto says the weight and money are not right, goes on to lose to much bigger Trout for peanuts. http://www.boxingscene.com/cotto-pacquiao-fear-me-mayweather-go-154--48943

Quote: Originally Posted by Redd Foxx Sergio should be retired. Anything he does at this point should strictly be to provide for his future. Enough with the childish superhero crap arguments NSBrs come up with. The best are supposed to fight the best if not retire. Sergio is the champ at 160 Golovkin is #1 challenger. No excuses. that's my take. if he wants to make money, fine, dump the championship. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

This is only GGG's first year on HBO and he's still in the building process. Martinez came off surgery and Cotto is a showcase and $$$ fight, therefore killing two birds with one stone. If he handles Cotto like he should, I think we'll see 3G/Martinez at the end of 2014.

It's a rarity to see a GGG fan that can split or see the difference in what we are talking about, I think we all would love to see Martinez face GGG but to be honest unless the money is right then it would not happen. With the age and injuries that Martinez has its going to be stupid of him if he doesn't make sure he uses his last 2 or 3 fights to get more money for his himself and family. To be fair I do think that Martinez would get paid (as of right now) like 1 or 2 million for GGG fight, but he will get much more for Cotto or maybe even Chavez Jr rematch. Don't get me wrong, GGG has PPV star written all over him, the only problem is by the time he reaches that status, Sergio will be happily retired.

But surely GGG has earned it with his beast 2013 year of Rosado, Ishida, Macklin and Stevens. That is about as equal as Williams 2x, Pavlik, Chavez Jr, Dzinzuruk, Murray, Cintron, Macklin, Barker. But but he had to fight all of those because nobody wanted to fight him, even Macklin was coming off One single round after losing to Martinez, he was coming off injury and only had one single round before he face GGG, it safe to say he wasn't at his best (Not that he would win anyway). Rosado and Ishida well sorry, and Curtis is the only fighter that I can say was on a good run when he faced GGG, and who is GGG fighting now? Amanda? Yep stellar stuff.. Lol Stop fucking calling proffesional fighters "cowards"! They fight for living and they're not affraid of each other. Would I like to see Martinez vs GGG? Hell yeah, who wouldn't? Would I choose fighting Cotto for more money? Fuck yeah. Sergio has like 2, maybe 3 fights left, no wonder he wants to get the biggest possible paycheck before hanging'em up. And it's coming from a huge GGG fan. It's a rarity to see a GGG fan that can split or see the difference in what we are talking about, I think we all would love to see Martinez face GGG but to be honest unless the money is right then it would not happen. With the age and injuries that Martinez has its going to be stupid of him if he doesn't make sure he uses his last 2 or 3 fights to get more money for his himself and family.

I'm fine with him trying to get money fights at him age & coming off an injury but if he's going to keep looking south for opponents then I'll have a small issue. GGG hasn't done much (opponent wise) that has impressed me but he's created enough buzz to where top guys at 160 & 168 should be trying to give him his first L!

Stop fucking calling proffesional fighters "cowards"! They fight for living and they're not affraid of each other. Would I like to see Martinez vs GGG? Hell yeah, who wouldn't? Would I choose fighting Cotto for more money? Fuck yeah. Sergio has like 2, maybe 3 fights left, no wonder he wants to get the biggest possible paycheck before hanging'em up. And it's coming from a huge GGG fan.

Don't spoil GGG fans fun, most of them don't even know anything about boxing. Martinez had to take further risks when he wouldn't get his chance, He was Vernon Forrest mandatory for years and the fight never happen, he had to go through tough fighters that paid him next to nothing in Alex Burma, cintron, Williams etc before jumping up against the king at 160 in Pavlik, then the Williams rematch, Dzin that HBO wanted him to fight and Chavez that he chased, he man paid his dues and he isn't just going to give you any chance unless you too have earned it. Am sure if they bring the right money to the table he would fight anyone. I don't expect anyone to leave a Cotto payday on the table to fight GGG for less money, less fame, lesser name etc its a retarded way of thinking. But surely GGG has earned it with his beast 2013 year of Rosado, Ishida, Macklin and Stevens. That is about as equal as Williams 2x, Pavlik, Chavez Jr, Dzinzuruk, Murray, Cintron, Macklin, Barker.

Sergio moved up to 160 and took on middleweight kings when he couldn't get a big fight. He's paid his dues. Why can't GGG do the same? Ward is waiting. Don't spoil GGG fans fun, most of them don't even know anything about boxing. Martinez had to take further risks when he wouldn't get his chance, He was Vernon Forrest mandatory for years and the fight never happen, he had to go through tough fighters that paid him next to nothing in Alex Burma, cintron, Williams etc before jumping up against the king at 160 in Pavlik, then the Williams rematch, Dzin that HBO wanted him to fight and Chavez that he chased, he man paid his dues and he isn't just going to give you any chance unless you too have earned it. Am sure if they bring the right money to the table he would fight anyone. I don't expect anyone to leave a Cotto payday on the table to fight GGG for less money, less fame, lesser name etc its a retarded way of thinking.

hes not going to get him though if he doesn't face golovkin, HBO is forcing him to face him after cotto, and if he disagrees its either retire or ggg, he has one more fight on hbo on his contract. Hbo hasn't really done anything to show that they're gonna force it yet... We could see some in the near futre, but nothing yet. Them not wanting to air Rubio could be because there isn't much interest there

HBO has had a bunch of mediocre fight cards this year and will eventually come to their senses and realized they need to work with GBP if they want to improve the quality of their shows. When the split happened I was hoping that HBO would begin to focus more on putting on the best fights regardless of promoter. They would have had the money and subscriber base to encourage the big, cross promotional matchups to finally happen. So it was disappointing to see them shut out GBP completely. But I can understand that they were butthurt over losing Floyd.

What HBO did with GBP was the equivalent of a child taking his ball and going home because the other kids on the playground won't play the game by his rules. What usually happens in that case is the child will see the other children playing without him and having fun while he is sulking. He will eventually rejoin the other kids and play according to the group rules. HBO has had a bunch of mediocre fight cards this year and will eventually come to their senses and realized they need to work with GBP if they want to improve the quality of their shows. If they can get a fight between Alvarez and Martinez or Alvarez and Cotto, I guarantee HBO would change their mind about working with GBP. HBO's ratings have been higher, but they have 30 percent more viewers than Showtime, so their ratings should be 30 percent higher than Showtime, but they are not. Pacquaio barely drew 400,000 buys in his last fight, but you think a fight with two guys who are only known by the hardcore fans would draw 500,000 ppvs? No way! and there is no way would HBO put Martinez/GGG on PPV. As for Chavez, I really don't give a damn about him, but he a lot more money than GGG and is still a bigger draw, in spite of his last fight.that is not the same situation at all,. THats manny, who just got knocked out, was put on an awful card for a comeback fight, fought it china and still managed 400k buys. It wasn't even for a championship. that should be an expected number for a comeback. Guys like Hatton, alvarez, cotto after they lose dont get put in big time main events because they lost, they get put on hbo or showtime for free, show the world they still got it, and then put big numbers. just shows you how big of a draw pacman is Golovkin however is coming from a huge viewership fight, almost as much as cotto does.golovkin is getting huge exposure, espn talks about, bleacherreport talks about him, and he gets big ratings and big ticket sales. and, he hasn't lost. He is a draw, plain and simple, and a fight with sergio will do very very well. The whole drawing argument is now lost ever sense the stevens fight happened

sergio had a great career and he has a limited window of opportunity to cash out... he EARNED a nice payday with cotto... i dont think sergio is afraid of GGG, but im sure he knows its not worth it. GGG is a beast and will test whatever sergio has left...

but it kinda debunks your 'they all fight for the most money' theory dont it Mayweather calls of Klitschko to fight at 147 for $150,000,000. Klitschko refuses. THEORY DEBUNKED! I'm willing to admit there's some special circumstances like that one JMM case where it doesn't always apply, but they tend to be exceptions that prove the rule. In general, yes, that's how it almost always works. Fighting for the most amount of money is how all managers/promoters guide their fighter's careers.

did they not turn down more money to go after titles? You're seriously want to tell me that a Trout win does more for Cotto's legacy than avenging his Pacquiao loss? And if Cotto can't make a catchweight, he's not turning down any money. It's a fight that's simply impossible. If you can't make weight, you can't make weight. End of story. While I can agree there's a nobleness in turning the Pac payday, jeez... he already fought him 4 times.