I was just reading up on stats and I have to say, James Kirkland has beat some top opposition, two of which are Canelo's leading options for his big ppv card. I wonder why people don't include JK in their conversations when they talk about opponents for guys like Mayweather and Alvarez. He has earned a big payday, if anyone has. Yeah, he got tko'd by some good shots a few years ago by a journeyman, so what. He has a better resume that alot of these other guys with only that one freak loss.
For all the retards talking about Molina beating Kirkland
What does that have to do with winning? Nobody disputed Alexander beat Maidana easy, in a compuclinch bonanza. Plenty of winners featured by compuclinch, Wlad, Ward, Abril vs Rios ...
kirkland was injured and golden boy tried to force him into it.
They do anything to push their boy. As exciting as kirkland is, they certainly wanted to give canelo all the advantages they could, no doubt.
The one who started this thread is a total idiot. And now I am curious. After watching that fight with Molina what was your score card looking like. Kirkland was getting annihilated in this fight. And NO the knock out was not coming. lmfao
I did not see the fight, he won it either way, I was just making a point about Kirkland, not trying to take away anything from Molina or anybody else.
Golden Boy has already offered a fight to Kirkland against Canelo in the past but Kirkland declined. Now Canelo fights on Showtime and Kirkland is still fighting on HBO, the fight won't get done anymore for the same reason all the other fights with fighters that fight on different networks don't. You don't have to be a fan of Canelo or Kirkland to know that and you don't have to try to make it seem like Canelo is ducking Kirkland just because you don't like him.
Also, stop using "leftovers" just because Floyd recently used it to duck Pacquiao. Everyone knows triangle theories are bullsh1t.
Pretty sure Kirkland isn't exclusive to HBO.
Golden Boy has already offered a fight to Kirkland against Canelo in the past but Kirkland declined. Now Canelo fights on Showtime and Kirkland is still fighting on HBO, the fight won't get done anymore for the same reason all the other fights with fighters that fight on different networks don't. You don't have to be a fan of Canelo or Kirkland to know that and you don't have to try to make it seem like Canelo is ducking Kirkland just because you don't like him.
Also, stop using "leftovers" just because Floyd recently used it to duck Pacquiao. Everyone knows triangle theories are bullsh1t.
I really should have used differentvwords, I meant no disrespect. I understand how it comes across. I was honestly surprised when I looked over jk's record, I was impressed.
He comes across as a guy that deserves a shot at the big fights, he earned it. That's all I really meant to say.
I apologize to the board.
he does have a good resume unfortunately he sued golden boy promotions and jumped shipped SMS promotions so he won't be getting any of those pay days now. HBO should still give him some solid opponents. Maybe he can get a title shot at Andrade but being in with the cash cows like Canelo & Floyd Mayweather will never happen now due to the politics of boxing. He can still have a solid career over on HBO and get some solid pay days if he continues to look the way he did in his last fight though. Lets face it though he left a talent rich JMW stable at GBP where the match up possibilities were endless to go to HBO where the marquee names around his weight class just aren't at. He just has to keep taking care of business and keep winning and he will still carve out a decent living for himself.
Looks like they might feed him to GGG, IF he could somehow pull that off, would be huge for him. I don't see it happening tho, I could see him becoming a fighter that is used to boost the resumes of bigger, better fighters. You have to give the guy alot of respect. I bet he takes the GGG fight.
Golden Boy has already offered a fight to Kirkland against Canelo in the past but Kirkland declined. Now Canelo fights on Showtime and Kirkland is still fighting on HBO, the fight won't get done anymore for the same reason all the other fights with fighters that fight on different networks don't. You don't have to be a fan of Canelo or Kirkland to know that and you don't have to try to make it seem like Canelo is ducking Kirkland just because you don't like him.
Also, stop using "leftovers" just because Floyd recently used it to duck Pacquiao. Everyone knows triangle theories are bullsh1t.
Molina, Angulo aren't they jr. mw's?
they are. i don't know why you're asking this question. i was being sarcastic about the stupid logic of "leftovers".
Canelo will be brutally KO'd by Kirk! Plain duck, just like he is ducking Lara!
Canelo is close to become the P4P Duck King!!!!
Kirkland would get beat up badly by Alvarez.
so if you were shaefer will you put lara on canelos first ppv ??
no money, no real title, not a fan friendly style...
lara after beating trout deserves to be the mandatory at any champion, but canelo is not the champion anymore....
Golden Boy doesn't want him to fight Molina either, but Alvarez's people want it. They could do the same with Lara, but they probably aren't.
i agree with op. canelo shouldn't fight other jr mw's because other jr's mw's might have fought other jr mw's.
some of you need to get a grip.
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Molina, Angulo aren't they jr. mw's?
i agree with op. canelo shouldn't fight other jr mw's because other jr's mw's might have fought other jr mw's.
some of you need to get a grip.
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why not Lara?
so if you were shaefer will you put lara on canelos first ppv ??
no money, no real title, not a fan friendly style...
lara after beating trout deserves to be the mandatory at any champion, but canelo is not the champion anymore....
:rofl: :rofl: the high standards people must have of Canelo coming of a loss against the best fighter in the world, after beating who many believed was the best fighter in his division, and in his comeback fight he's already ducking the entire Jr. Middleweight division. Not bad for a 23 year old
Yea cause fighting Michael Jennings, Delvin Rodriguez & Yuri Foreman is the best accomplishment any boxer can have after losing.
Canelo will be brutally KO'd by Kirk! Plain duck, just like he is ducking Lara!
Canelo is close to become the P4P Duck King!!!!
was cotto getting the same caliber opponents at 23??
thats what i thought...
i guess is canelos fault for kirkland trying to make more money than he already signed for, or maybe is his fault that punisher had that bike accident, or maybe you consider Austin Trout a bum the same bum who clearly outboxed cotto, and floyd i supposed is another cherrypick right??
by the way after cotto lost to trout he never looked for a rematch or lara or molina, instead he was trying to get fights with ishe, k9 or delvin...
btw canelo wanted maravilla before the murray fight by that time nobody knew he was badly injured, and by that time maravilla wanted cotto and your hero had no intentions for that fight..
lara going after canelo means he is looking for money, but guess what canelo is after the money too... and lara is not the best option for a ppv, no money, no real title... deal with it...
Canelo will be brutally KO'd by Kirk! Plain duck, just like he is ducking Lara!
Canelo is close to become the P4P Duck King!!!!
:rofl: :rofl: the high standards people must have of Canelo coming of a loss against the best fighter in the world, after beating who many believed was the best fighter in his division, and in his comeback fight he's already ducking the entire Jr. Middleweight division. Not bad for a 23 year old