Maidana and Rios are about the same in terms of skill level and even have a similar aggressive style. They often spar together and those sessions are always very close and evenly-matched.
If Floyd ever fought Maidana it would be the same as Pacquiao fighting Rios. Now if Floyd did chose Rios (a guy Manny just beat) I think most would be dead against that fight.
As everyone knows Khan already beat Maidana clearly and Maidana has not improved in any way since he fought Khan. He's the same fighter as before but against Broner he was back to the same sort of form as the Khan fight.
He went through a bad patch after his loss to Khan, depression and a drop in motivation plagued him with the realization that he had been beaten by a clearly better fighter, he fell out of love with the sport until he connected with Robert Garcia where the change of scene has brought back the passion he needed to once again be a top tier fighter and return to the level he was at when he lost to Khan.
The bottomline of course is that how could Floyd choose one of Khan's former victims instead of Khan himself? Wouldn't that be like Floyd choosing to fight Brandon Rios instead of fighting Pacquiao?
Exactly..
i honestly don't see maidana getting outboxed by f*cking mike alvarado. maybe it's just me.
He also looked like a punching bag against Manny Pacquiao. Mayweather would beat Maidana, but at least Marcos is going to give him a good and competitive fight. And the Current Maidana would beat Rios.
Maidana's and Rios' record in the 147 lbs weight division
Maidana - 4-1. Good wins against Broner, and Soto Karass
Rios - 0-1 - losses against Alvarado in his last fight.
You need to stop. You do not know what you are talking about. Maidana is a different beast than Rios. He's in shape and belongs at 147 because he's actually a beast, he trains hard and gives 110% in every fight. Rios is at 140-147 because he doesn't train hard enough to be at 135. He has too much flab to be called even a legit JWW, he's like Juan Diaz.
Maidana and Rios are roughly equal, they are both aggressive fighters who work best on the front foot and can't really fight well off the back foot. They both have a similar array of punches and both fighters can throw awkward angular shots. Each of them does not perform brilliantly, generally speaking, against fighters who use lateral movement and fundamental boxing skills so they both have been outboxed several times before by boxers who used footwork. But neither fighter himself uses superior footwork. They have a similar punch resistance and durability too, as well as comparable punching power. They both have had around 35 fights. They also both have 3 losses, assuming you include Brandon's unofficial, but widely accepted, loss to Abril.
Stop it buddy. It's just not the same.
Yeah but there's just one big difference...Maidana isn't coming off of a big fat loss. He's actually coming off of an impressive victory over a previously undefeated fighter who was the favorite. I agree with you but Rios just got his ass kicked while Maidana did the ass kicking. And this is boxing. Anything can happen.
Maidana and Rios are about the same in terms of skill level and even have a similar aggressive style. They often spar together and those sessions are always very close and evenly-matched.
If Floyd ever fought Maidana it would be the same as Pacquiao fighting Rios. Now if Floyd did chose Rios (a guy Manny just beat) I think most would be dead against that fight.
As everyone knows Khan already beat Maidana clearly and Maidana has not improved in any way since he fought Khan. He's the same fighter as before but against Broner he was back to the same sort of form as the Khan fight.
He went through a bad patch after his loss to Khan, depression and a drop in motivation plagued him with the realization that he had been beaten by a clearly better fighter, he fell out of love with the sport until he connected with Robert Garcia where the change of scene has brought back the passion he needed to once again be a top tier fighter and return to the level he was at when he lost to Khan.
The bottomline of course is that how could Floyd choose one of Khan's former victims instead of Khan himself? Wouldn't that be like Floyd choosing to fight Brandon Rios instead of fighting Pacquiao?
Exactly..
I understand the point you are trying to make, however the difference is Maidana had fought a few times at ww and he has yet to lose at ww, and he is the wba champ. Not to mention he beat the guy that was as closely compared to Floyd as any other fighter in the last decade if not ever, so that makes the fight easier to hype.
so floyd fighting another ww champion is the same as manny fighting someone with 0 ww fights and who was 1-1 at 140???amazing
maidana is more legit hands down , no doubt ...
Maidana actually has a legitimately good resume.
Kotelnik*(robbed)
Ortiz
Broner
Lopez
Karass
Morales
Rios not so much.
Alvarado
Antillon?(not that good)
Acosta
A. Peterson
There's also the weight variable. Maidana has 6 fights at 147 going 5-1, while Rios debuted at WW against Pacquiao, after a loss at JWW, where he is also mediocre.
I agree with you, although beating jesus soto karass and josesito lopez doesn't mean much... lol. they are both gatekeepers, sorry.
Rios is at the same level as Maidana, he would have likely beaten this version of Broner in a similar fashion. But Broner, with natural ability and if he's capable of listening to and acting upon training advice he has a good chance of improving and becoming a top tier fighter one day.
If he fought Rios or Maidana a couple of years down the line he probably beats them both but he needed an official loss to highlight the fact that he needs to improve. He has lost before a number of times in my opinion but he got away with the decision so that didn't really help him focus on improving his skills so those gift wins could have ironically worked against him.
You need to stop. You do not know what you are talking about. Maidana is a different beast than Rios. He's in shape and belongs at 147 because he's actually a beast, he trains hard and gives 110% in every fight. Rios is at 140-147 because he doesn't train hard enough to be at 135. He has too much flab to be called even a legit JWW, he's like Juan Diaz.
Maidana actually has a legitimately good resume.
Kotelnik*(robbed)
Ortiz
Broner
Lopez
Karass
Morales
Rios not so much.
Alvarado
Antillon?(not that good)
Acosta
A. Peterson
There's also the weight variable. Maidana has 6 fights at 147 going 5-1, while Rios debuted at WW against Pacquiao, after a loss at JWW, where he is also mediocre.
dont think so .. pac looks good fighting guys that come at him , with floyd ,it's exactly the opposite...he might beat him but would not look good as pac would...it's a matter of styles imo...
Mayweather would embarrass Maidana a total mismatch, but you embarrassed yourself saying Rios is at the same level.
Rios is at the same level as Maidana, he would have likely beaten this version of Broner in a similar fashion. But Broner, with natural ability and if he's capable of listening to and acting upon training advice he has a good chance of improving and becoming a top tier fighter one day.
If he fought Rios or Maidana a couple of years down the line he probably beats them both but he needed an official loss to highlight the fact that he needs to improve. He has lost before a number of times in my opinion but he got away with the decision so that didn't really help him focus on improving his skills so those gift wins could have ironically worked against him.
But Maidana is actually a legit fight..... Rios wasn't
Floyd fans have very low standards. They use the word "legit" just because the guy beats up Broner, who at WW was being out-boxed by Paulie and now lost to Maidana. Hmmmm, where have we seen this before:
(Ortiz, Guerrero, ...... with Berto)
(Marquez, ...... with No WW fights)
(Hatton, ...... with Collazo)
and so on
Yet, they always find a way to make excuse to fight true "legit" fighters that called out Floyd in the past (Martinez, Williams, Manny, ....)
no it wouldnt be because maidana is on a winning streak and deserves it.
Rios was coming off a loss and should of never fought pac. it was a disgrace and thats why that ppv didnt do well
Garcia may have added a few extra wrinkles to Maidana's game, but he's not improved to the degree that he'd present any serious threat to Floyd, obviously. Part of why he did well against Broner was that Broner stood right in front of him. Show him movement and he's not the same fighter. It'd be a predictably easy fight for Mayweather.