Ring Magizine's new Top 10, how do you think they did in the ratings?

My list: 1. Floyd Mayweather 2. Andre Ward 3. Wladimir Klitchsko 4. Guillermo Rigondeaux 5. Manny Pacquiao 6. Danny Garcia 7. Timothy Bradley 8. Juan Manuel Marquez 9. Erislandy Lara 10. Ruslan Provodnikov

He really is. You'd have to do some serious doctoring to name more than 2 fighters (Floyd/Ward) who even would have a chance of beating this guy if they were the same size. I don't see how anyone not named Floyd or Ward would be able to do it. And even they probably couldn't honestly. LOL ... Are you the same guy that went crazy saying that canelo was going to destroy mayweather then he went on to lose 12 rounds and you vanished from this site ???....... The better boxer will outclass another fellow boxer when placed in the ring together so I can see rigo outpointing them

That's kool. Now explain to me how Bradley or Pacman beat Rigo if they were the same size please. I could say H2H and same size, I think Mikey Garcia out classes Danny Garcia probably. Doesn't mean I think Mikey is P4P higher than Danny Garcia though. H2H and same size, I think Donaire beats Danny with ease. Is Donaire higher P4P then Danny though???

Pound for pound lists are so fvcking pointless.

I'll co-sign that. Rigo is top 3 at worst. Canelo Off the list. Thats some ****ing balls even putting him on there. Like someone else said, might as well keep Broner on there. Since Maidana beat Broner, he should take his place. Pac dont belong. Porter, Thurman, Maidana, Paulie were matched tougher at WW than Pac this year. He has had disappointing performance after disappointing performance. No more consolation prizes. Off the list. JMM belongs low on the tier. So does Brad. Sergio too. I would replace Pac and Canelo with Danny G, Stevenson, Lara or Kovalev. He really is. You'd have to do some serious doctoring to name more than 2 fighters (Floyd/Ward) who even would have a chance of beating this guy if they were the same size. I don't see how anyone not named Floyd or Ward would be able to do it. And even they probably couldn't honestly.

1: Floyd Mayweather 2: Andre Ward 3. Timothy Bradley 4: Wladimir Klitschko 5. Sergio Martinez 6. Juan Manuel Marquez 7. Manny Pacquiao 8. Guillermo Rigondeaux 9. Canelo Alvarez 10 Carl Froch http://******.craveonline.com/ratings My thoughts Dont disagree with froch coming up at number 10, But Martinez ahead of Pacquiao and Rigondeaux? Really? And why is Alvarez still in the top 10 mayweather ward bradley pacquiao marquez klitschko froch rigo garcia lara

1: Floyd Mayweather 2: Andre Ward 3. Timothy Bradley 4: Wladimir Klitschko 5. Sergio Martinez 6. Juan Manuel Marquez 7. Manny Pacquiao 8. Guillermo Rigondeaux 9. Canelo Alvarez 10 Carl Froch http://******.craveonline.com/ratings My thoughts Dont disagree with froch coming up at number 10, But Martinez ahead of Pacquiao and Rigondeaux? Really? And why is Alvarez still in the top 10 Froch shouldn't be in the top 20 much less the top ten.

Ring magazine is as reliable and credible as Fiifa rankings. They get the obvious names right but then throw in a couple that make you scratch your head. Saying that some of you complaining are coming up with your own list is which are even worse Lol.

Ward Rigo Floyd. Interchangeable top 3. If they have Rigo 8th then it sucks. I'll co-sign that. Rigo is top 3 at worst. Canelo Off the list. Thats some ****ing balls even putting him on there. Like someone else said, might as well keep Broner on there. Since Maidana beat Broner, he should take his place. Pac dont belong. Porter, Thurman, Maidana, Paulie were matched tougher at WW than Pac this year. He has had disappointing performance after disappointing performance. No more consolation prizes. Off the list. JMM belongs low on the tier. So does Brad. Sergio too. I would replace Pac and Canelo with Danny G, Stevenson, Lara or Kovalev.

P4P Has as much to do with resume as it does with a mythical H2H matchup. That's kool. Now explain to me how Bradley or Pacman beat Rigo if they were the same size please.

Wrong, you've not explained to me how Pacman would beat Mikey if they were the same size. Feel free to try again though. P4P Has as much to do with resume as it does with a mythical H2H matchup.

1: Floyd Mayweather 2: Andre Ward 3. Timothy Bradley 4: Wladimir Klitschko 5. Sergio Martinez 6. Juan Manuel Marquez 7. Manny Pacquiao 8. Guillermo Rigondeaux 9. Canelo Alvarez 10 Carl Froch http://******.craveonline.com/ratings My thoughts Dont disagree with froch coming up at number 10, But Martinez ahead of Pacquiao and Rigondeaux? Really? And why is Alvarez still in the top 10 What happen to Broner does he make at least the top 25 ?

I agree with PAC and Canelo not being in the list, Jmm still in there. The list should be this. No Martinez he was shot in his last fight and been out for a year. This is how it should look. 1. Mayweather- genius artist in the ring, chess master 2. Ward- Is underrated but is just scary great in the ring, after surgery he now have another power hand. 3. Timothy Bradley- all he do is win, heart determination the epitomy of will, a true man. 4. Guillermo Rigondeaux- straight demon with the boxing skill, and a hell scythe of a left hand. 5. Danny Garcia- So underrated ring intelligence as well as intangible that are told through out the fight. Chin, timing, educated footwork and gradual adjustments. 6. JMM- A supremely dangerous and intelligent ring technician, he will be back 7. Wladimir Kilschko- very great control throughout fights and a great reach thàt supplements a heavy right hand. 8. Bernard Hopkins - the grand wizard in the game, just an old school master in defense and questionable tactics. Knows how to use trickery to get in opponents heads that ultimately leave them exposed 9. Terrence Crawford- potential is limitless 10. Idk Terence Crawford? We're not listing top 10 prospects here? Bhop? I understand the admiration but he's feasting on B-C level fighters now (which is still great for his age but we're doing a lb 4 lb list). Do you really think he can compete with the top of his division after that crapfest with a mummified RJJ? Since being a "true man" is part of your criteria for being p4p (as in Bradley's case) then Floyd probably drops from #1.

Easy. Pac got robbed vs Bradley, KO'd in a competitive fight vs Marquez who is a top 10 lb 4 lber (he was leading before the KO), blanked Rios (who has a better resume than anybody that Mikey has beaten). Mikey is the real deal and is unbeaten but hasn't fought anybody close to being p4p. Wrong, you've not explained to me how Pacman would beat Mikey if they were the same size. Feel free to try again though.

I agree with PAC and Canelo not being in the list, Jmm still in there. The list should be this. No Martinez he was shot in his last fight and been out for a year. This is how it should look. 1. Mayweather- genius artist in the ring, chess master 2. Ward- Is underrated but is just scary great in the ring, after surgery he now have another power hand. 3. Timothy Bradley- all he do is win, heart determination the epitomy of will, a true man. 4. Guillermo Rigondeaux- straight demon with the boxing skill, and a hell scythe of a left hand. 5. Danny Garcia- So underrated ring intelligence as well as intangible that are told through out the fight. Chin, timing, educated footwork and gradual adjustments. 6. JMM- A supremely dangerous and intelligent ring technician, he will be back 7. Wladimir Kilschko- very great control throughout fights and a great reach thàt supplements a heavy right hand. 8. Bernard Hopkins - the grand wizard in the game, just an old school master in defense and questionable tactics. Knows how to use trickery to get in opponents heads that ultimately leave them exposed 9. Terrence Crawford- potential is limitless 10. Idk Terrence Crawford at ten..... What?

I'd like for you to explain to me how Bradley would beat Rigo if they were the same size. And also how would Pacman beat Mikey too. Easy. Pac got robbed vs Bradley, KO'd in a competitive fight vs Marquez who is a top 10 lb 4 lber (he was leading before the KO), blanked Rios (who has a better resume than anybody that Mikey has beaten). Mikey is the real deal and is unbeaten but hasn't fought anybody close to being p4p.

1: Floyd Mayweather 2: Andre Ward 3. Timothy Bradley 4: Wladimir Klitschko 5. Sergio Martinez 6. Juan Manuel Marquez 7. Manny Pacquiao 8. Guillermo Rigondeaux 9. Canelo Alvarez 10 Carl Froch http://******.craveonline.com/ratings My thoughts Dont disagree with froch coming up at number 10, But Martinez ahead of Pacquiao and Rigondeaux? Really? And why is Alvarez still in the top 10 Because even though he did crap against Floyd, they still think his name warrants him being in there

My only question is where in the world is Ali Raymi? If they put him on the list, the rest in the list would be completely irrelevant. It would not even be a top 10. They should leave that list and created a separate "Super P4P" list of just 1, and put Raymi where he justly belongs, as he has no peers.

Lol at no Danny Garcia. After Froch struggled with Groves, he's not a lock anymore 1. Mayweather 2. Ward 3. Bradley 4. Rigondeaux 5. Wlad 6. Pacquiao 7. Danny Garcia 8. Juan Manuel Marquez 9. Sergio Martinez 10. Mikey Garcia, Carl Froch, Roman Gonzalez, or Erislandy Lara I'd like for you to explain to me how Bradley would beat Rigo if they were the same size. And also how would Pacman beat Mikey too.

It's not a bad list. I won't argue order, but Canelo should be taken off and replaced with Danny Garcia or Mikey Garcia. If it's a Golden Boy guy they want, make it Danny and no one would complain.