If Arreola wins would anyone like to see him rematch Adamek,we know Adamek would jump at the chance to fight for the title against he already out pointed in his backyard.Arreola I'm sure will be eager to avenge his second career loss.
To me it seems a perfect and logical match up.obviously Cris has to win the belt beforehand,otherwise I don't see the fight materialising.
My concern is the likelihood of that belt changing hands with alarming regularity.i don't see any heavy out there,bar Wladimir who appear to have the abilities to go on a successive title defence run, unlike the Klitschko brothers.
he also beat kevin Johnson in a WBC eliminator. fury won eliminators for both the IBF & WBC. hussled by CWs? isn't he still undefeated? I guess hussling means something different in my world...
He was meant to face the winner of Banks/Mitchell,for whatever reason he didn't ! He elected to fight USS instead,the IBF ordered that one an IBF box off after Adamek's initial refusal to face Pulev,upon beating USS.tis all irrelevant,the point I'm making is Fury has refused offers already by the WBC and the IBF,thus the reason he was expunged from their rankings,had he have waited for the Banks Mitchell outcome/rematch result then faced the victor he'd be above Wilder in those,ramkings,possibly even mandatory to the winner of Arreola and Stiverne 2.
I've made it blatantly clear I don't like Fury,he's all talk.he is skilled,but he was hustled by USS until Fury smashed his forearm into his face pinning him against the ropes,before stopping him,thatbisntbwithin the rules.that kid was shook,he talked big before the fight and left more questions marks over himself upon leaving the ring before entering it.
Opponents Wilder should fight:
Tyson Fury
Robert Helenius
Christian Hammer
Amir Mansour
Opponents Wilder will probably fight:
Tor Hamer
Franklin Lawrence
Fres Oquendo
Brian Minto
Helenius hasn't fought in a while now has he ? Fury vs Wilder would be an excellent eliminator for the WBC title winner.
Their is no credibility in facing Hamer,the other three i could find a case for them,they're fringe and represent a step up in class IMO,i would refrain from calling them class though.
Opponents Wilder should fight:
Tyson Fury
Robert Helenius
Christian Hammer
Amir Mansour
Opponents Wilder will probably fight:
Tor Hamer
Franklin Lawrence
Fres Oquendo
Brian Minto
this isn't far off I bet...lol!
Why ? Wilder is ranked higher,Fury dropped out of a box off ordered by the WBC to face USS an eliminator for the IBF,he had no desire for the WBC belt when Vitali held it,why should he be gifted a shot now.Wilder starches all his opponents,Fury gets hussled by cruisers.he also beat kevin Johnson in a WBC eliminator. fury won eliminators for both the IBF & WBC. hussled by CWs? isn't he still undefeated? I guess hussling means something different in my world...
Fury, Chisora and Arreola IMO stand the best shot against Wlad until Wilder proves himself.
Opponents Wilder should fight:
Tyson Fury
Robert Helenius
Christian Hammer
Amir Mansour
Opponents Wilder will probably fight:
Tor Hamer
Franklin Lawrence
Fres Oquendo
Brian Minto
are you saying wilder's more deserving of a title shot than fury? I cant stand fury either but realistically his resume craps all over wilder's. wilder has fought nothing but corpses and even fury probably would have probably starched all of them
I'd much rather have seen Arreola ordered to face Wilder winner faces Stiverne.I'd say Wilder is more deserving yes,he's ranked higher,Fury forfeited his ranking within the WBC and IBF ignoring orders to face Haye.
Wilder hasn't faced anyone,I couldn't agree more,h has looked impressive in his work though,has Wilder ever been dropped or fouled his way to a win over a cruiser though ? I still can't believe the Fury win over USS was allowed to stand.
I'm a fan of neither,I'm more impressed by Perez,Jennings and Charr personally.
Arreola or Stiverne...Wlad will come knocking and will offer more money than anybody in the HW division.
How can you say no to Wlad?
Winner becomes the undisputed champion, a highly regarded fighter, biggest money fight you could possibly have in the division.... I don't see what reason either man would turn Wlad down.
You'd have to be a damn coward not to.
All these guys want the big fights, but when it comes knocking, they crap their pants and are too scared to answer the door.
WBC gonna find a way to gift it to Wilder so he can fight Muhammad Ali for it
Why ? Wilder is ranked higher,Fury dropped out of a box off ordered by the WBC to face USS an eliminator for the IBF,he had no desire for the WBC belt when Vitali held it,why should he be gifted a shot now.Wilder starches all his opponents,Fury gets hussled by cruisers.
are you saying wilder's more deserving of a title shot than fury? I cant stand fury either but realistically his resume craps all over wilder's. wilder has fought nothing but corpses and even fury probably would have probably starched all of them
Winner of Stiverne - Arreola should fight Fury.
Why ? Wilder is ranked higher,Fury dropped out of a box off ordered by the WBC to face USS an eliminator for the IBF,he had no desire for the WBC belt when Vitali held it,why should he be gifted a shot now.Wilder starches all his opponents,Fury gets hussled by cruisers.
Arreola said the 2 fights he wanted were a rematch with stiverne & adamek. If he beats stiverne i would be surprised if he didnt fight adamek before wlad...
Let the belt change hands as often as possible, who cares. There is only one heavyweight champion. At least this way we'd get contenders fighting one another more often.
I can actually see where you're coming from here.if Wladimr get the belt they'll be less competitive fights.I must admit though from a personal point of view of very much like Wladimir to gain that belt.I feel it would be fitting.
Maybe the WBC could strip him afterwards,this is all hypothetical though right ? Not sure i fully underage the true meaning of that word.as soon as Vitali dropped that belt though,every man and his dog found their voice didn't they,Wilder,Fury,Stivenre,Arreola and even Chisora,all of them seem to believ they're good enough and wouldn't duck the other.
I would like to see Adamek face Arreola with the title on the line,maybe even in Poland,Tomasz visited California,why not rematch in Europe,that'd be awesome,Polish ppv would possibly trump Showtime income,is Arreola on Showtime now ?
If Arreola wins would anyone like to see him rematch Adamek,we know Adamek would jump at the chance to fight for the title against he already out pointed in his backyard.Arreola I'm sure will be eager to avenge his second career loss.
To me it seems a perfect and logical match up.obviously Cris has to win the belt beforehand,otherwise I don't see the fight materialising.
My concern is the likelihood of that belt changing hands with alarming regularity.i don't see any heavy out there,bar Wladimir who appear to have the abilities to go on a successive title defence run, unlike the Klitschko brothers.
Let the belt change hands as often as possible, who cares. There is only one heavyweight champion. At least this way we'd get contenders fighting one another more often.
Seems attractive to Arreola and I guess seeing where Adamek is at right now, he'd jump on the chance as well. I just think there are bigger opportunities after it if he wins. He definitely wants a piece of the Klitschkos before they retire, Wilder might also be there, Fury, Chisora... I don't know, I feel as if he is aiming for bigger things right now.
Then again, after this tough fight a fight against Adamek would be a nice tune up considering their history.
Arreola or Stiverne...Wlad will come knocking and will offer more money than anybody in the HW division.
How can you say no to Wlad?
Winner becomes the undisputed champion, a highly regarded fighter, biggest money fight you could possibly have in the division.... I don't see what reason either man would turn Wlad down.
Yeh I'd like to think they'd take a defence before a mandatory or unification,but if K2 come with the right money no way they jeopardise BIG money on a defence.
I got a lot of time for Arreola,he's a dog of war that kid.im rooting for him,I think Wladimir stops him though.
Arreola or Stiverne...Wlad will come knocking and will offer more money than anybody in the HW division.
How can you say no to Wlad?
Winner becomes the undisputed champion, a highly regarded fighter, biggest money fight you could possibly have in the division.... I don't see what reason either man would turn Wlad down.