Spadafora talks about the Broner loss.

The only guy who ever dropped/rocked Broner was Maidana and he is a power puncher. Broner has a good chin, its just Marcos is a really big puncher. do you even know who broner has fought all his life? He's a natural 147lber that spent his life fighting 130-135lbers get a clue azzwipe! Then he moves up and fights Paulie 8 KO's in 50 wins Malignaggi.

james toney also has an iron chin. broner has a glass jaw. getting rocked by anything that lands on him The only guy who ever dropped/rocked Broner was Maidana and he is a power puncher. Broner has a good chin, its just Marcos is a really big puncher.

James Toney used to do the Philly shell without using his legs so it can be done but you need cat like reflexes and not everyone has them james toney also has an iron chin. broner has a glass jaw. getting rocked by anything that lands on him

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AQSVB7ta540&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DAQSVB7ta540 Found this gem of a interview from after the broner fight. Dude is really the legit current version of Dickey from the fighter. "just be Paul" LoL wow this guy is a joke. please stay off the crack spadafora. lookin like a young deniro from taxi driver. this guy sucks

I'm glad you mentioned this. It's an important point. Toney had the same type of "sensory sonar" that fighters like Pep, Whitaker and Locche had. It's far more than reflexes. Floyd Mayweather does not - which is why Toney, in my opinion, was arguably a greater defensive fighter than Floyd Mayweather is today. Toney chose to be offensive - we know the rest... Floyd uses his agility, athleticism and overall footspeed to control distance as his primary means of defense against his preferably slower, less agile opposition. He only uses the roll when he absolutely has nothing left. To be honest, a lot of what toney did that was amazing came out of the fact he was lazy. Toney said it a million times, he hated training, he only liked sparring. He developed a style of shoulder rolling, sliding, parrying, and just flat out dropping his hands and turning his head with the punches.... Out of laziness. You camt really teach these kinds of things, its just experience. Floyd on the other hand was taught a specific style since he was a child. And using his legs was a major part of that. No one was EVER going to tell toney how to fight.

I'm glad you mentioned this. It's an important point. Toney had the same type of "sensory sonar" that fighters like Pep, Whitaker and Locche had. It's far more than reflexes. Floyd Mayweather does not - which is why Toney, in my opinion, was arguably a greater defensive fighter than Floyd Mayweather is today. Toney chose to be offensive - we know the rest... Floyd uses his agility, athleticism and overall footspeed to control distance as his primary means of defense against his preferably slower, less agile opposition. He only uses the roll when he absolutely has nothing left. Mayweather's defense is not solely based on athleticism. That's a myth. It's based on technique more than anything else.

This is true, but James toney lived inside the boxing ring. It's all he did, if he wasn't in a sanctioned fight, he was in the ring sparring. Toney lived boxing for a long part of his life. The kind of defense toney used has more to do with ring experience than it does reflexes. Same with Floyd. It's the experience of feeling where the punches will come from that gives them the reflexes to block, slide, parry them. It's the biggest difference between fihters today, and yesterday, guys today don't spar as much, or as consistently. If broner sparred tougher opponents, he would of already known his Philly shell was wack. More or less this, good post addix.

James Toney used to do the Philly shell without using his legs so it can be done but you need cat like reflexes and not everyone has them I'm glad you mentioned this. It's an important point. Toney had the same type of "sensory sonar" that fighters like Pep, Whitaker and Locche had. It's far more than reflexes. Floyd Mayweather does not - which is why Toney, in my opinion, was arguably a greater defensive fighter than Floyd Mayweather is today. Toney chose to be offensive - we know the rest... Floyd uses his agility, athleticism and overall footspeed to control distance as his primary means of defense against his preferably slower, less agile opposition. He only uses the roll when he absolutely has nothing left.

This is true, but James toney lived inside the boxing ring. It's all he did, if he wasn't in a sanctioned fight, he was in the ring sparring. Toney lived boxing for a long part of his life. The kind of defense toney used has more to do with ring experience than it does reflexes. Same with Floyd. It's the experience of feeling where the punches will come from that gives them the reflexes to block, slide, parry them. It's the biggest difference between fihters today, and yesterday, guys today don't spar as much, or as consistently. If broner sparred tougher opponents, he would of already known his Philly shell was wack. Totally true dat!:usa2:

James Toney used to do the Philly shell without using his legs so it can be done but you need cat like reflexes and not everyone has them This is true, but James toney lived inside the boxing ring. It's all he did, if he wasn't in a sanctioned fight, he was in the ring sparring. Toney lived boxing for a long part of his life. The kind of defense toney used has more to do with ring experience than it does reflexes. Same with Floyd. It's the experience of feeling where the punches will come from that gives them the reflexes to block, slide, parry them. It's the biggest difference between fihters today, and yesterday, guys today don't spar as much, or as consistently. If broner sparred tougher opponents, he would of already known his Philly shell was wack.

Paul said you can't use the shoulder roll without using your legs. Somebody should tell Broner. :lol1: He's the only guy on Earth who doesn't know. James Toney used to do the Philly shell without using his legs so it can be done but you need cat like reflexes and not everyone has them

Paul said you can't use the shoulder roll without using your legs. Somebody should tell Broner. :lol1: He's the only guy on Earth who doesn't know. Berto doesnt know either

Paul said you can't use the shoulder roll without using your legs. Somebody should tell Broner. :lol1: He's the only guy on Earth who doesn't know.

Actually wouldnt mind seeing a broner-spadafora fight,, both coming off their first career losses,, I think it would be a decent fight