He has always been beatable in his time only by the best tho but at the same time he has always been able and capable to beat anybody including them who could beat him which is why he is who he is.
like i said un my thread before.
PaC is undefeated in most of his fans eyes
he was malnourished vs torre campo
green ,wrong gloves and socks vs morales
and ktfo vs a steroid user un marqués.
so here,s my question again
is paquiao undefeated?
So does this mean he was close to his prime when he got outboxed by a bloated, well past his prime Marquez just two years ago?
Yes, he was close to his. But marquez wasn't far off from his prime either and no, his weight didn't affect him. He was bloated vs floyd and ripped vs pac thanks to memo. Marquez has pacs number.
prime floyd and prime jmm. erik beat very strong but still one-handed pac though he was likely over the hill then too, so neither was prime in their encounter. a two handed pac has the upper hand, though. rigo, if they can meet at a weight comfortable for both of them gives him trouble too. pretty much, pac will struggle vs rreally special counter punchers or movers.
Amazing how he beat a prime Marquez green btw
So does this mean he was close to his prime when he got outboxed by a bloated, well past his prime Marquez just two years ago?
The question has always been Who can beat Mayweather? Not who can beat pac
We all loved Pac for being a risk taker, going all out, throwing every punch with a purpose and going head first whether he kils or gets killed. Weve seen him get schooled by ,orales, then come back 2 straight fights n dominate.
We know hes beatable but he always has this fire/ heart to vercome, which made him great
WHO CAN BEAT prime pac?
who can beat prime pac today's boxer
I'm going to ignore the today's boxer part because you ignored the fact that he isn't in his prime right now, so im cancelling them out for you.
People who beat Manny in his prime off the top:
Prime Oscar
Prime Trinidad
Timothy Bradley
Any version (within reason) of Floyd
Prime Mosley
Rigo, if they could realistically meet at a weight
Prime Morales
Ruslan
Raymi
Any version of Marquez
Any random fighter of his weight range from the 30s-50s
pac prime was on peds too if that is the case... but marquez from 3rd fight actually outboxed pac......
Floyd's on PEDs now, and in the past. Should we erase all his wins then?
alot of people some already mentioned and if pac wasnt prime for juan then juan was more out of his and he still beat the **** out of him.
Erik morales beat him in his prime
Morales beat Pac pretty solid even though I do feel the gloves played a bit into the mental edge for Morales knowing he couldn't be hurt and Pac knowing he could throw everything at him and not scratch Morales with those gloves. JMM always had the best way to beat Manny but the best Manny vs JMM wasn't in the 4th fight. It was in the 1st and 2nd even though Manny was lacking technicality in the 1st, he was still doing what he should have. Just throw punches like mad and not let JMM set the pace and time him.
the incredible hulkquez.... not to be confused with his alter ego juanma marquez
haha best reply but let's not forget Morales just about beat a prime Pac but out of current fighters, the best being the likes of Floyd, Bradley, Garcia and Matthysse (only lookin at 140-147 as of now), could maybe mention Provodnikov, none of them beat a prime Pac. ***** boy mayweather come close, if they had 3 fights, then those fights could be split either way.
Other than that, Pac schools and possibly stops Bradley, which a half motivated version did anyway, stops Matthysse and beats Garcia up, only thing that keeps him competitive is his counter punching and chin.
Of today's boxers at 140-147? Just Mayweather. Marquez obviously is far from prime at this point, but we know how prime Whine Moanuel and Pacquiao matched up.
"When was Pacquiao's absolute prime?" is kind of a weird question. There was a very short window in 2008 where his physical talents and his skills peaked together. Still, I'd say Morales and Marquez 1 were both a prime Pac, even if his skills weren't the best he was freakishly talented.