The truth about Adrien Broner - EXPOSED

Broner doesn't appear like the kind of guy to admit he's something he's not when he's gone to great lengths to build this image up. Meaning he'll probably still fight the same exact way, which is a poor imitation of a certain way of defending that he doesn't understand properly,Don't see Broner fighting on the balls of his toes with lateral movement, Maidana was a handpicked opponent by GB , he struggled against movement so they give him a straight forward slower brawler and he proceded to get beat up. Maidana is a lot better than he's perceived he did what he wanted bcse there was nothing Broner could do to thwart it, that really says a lot.

Excellent analysis - I think this is where Maidana has really improved and refined himself tactically. The body shots really hurt Broner - even when he was taking them on the arms / elbow. Defensively I thought Broner was totally exposed - Maidana will always be a puncher, but he had the perfect game plan to beat Broner. It was a victory for boxing last weekend, Broner totally underestimated his opponent, which at any level (let alone Professional) is arrogant, dangerous and stupid. I don't know if Broner underestimated Maidana. I think Broner knows one way. I'm not sure if he's not capable of getting better, or he hasn't been trained properly. Before the fight happened, I said that one of two things will happen. Either we will see Broner do something different and show us he has another dimension, or he will stand in front of Maidana and take a beating. Well we know what happened, and it's because his corner made no attempt to change what he was going to do because they thought that Broner's defense was more than what it really was. Broner better use his feet, or he's in big trouble at 147. Either that or he will have to starve himself to get back to 135, but there's no money there, and we all know Broner is all about the Billions.....lol

i agree that the huge difference in performance is due to the size of his opponents. at 135 and 130 he tooks guy's best shots, and had real power. that silly shoulder roll actually worked against little guys.

The second knockdown was a double left hook. First one hurt him, the second one knocked him back and down. Funny thing is, in the shell you should never get hit with left hooks because your right hand should be stuck to your chin and right elbow tight on the body. Broner fell for one of the oldest tricks in boxing, setting up the headshot with the body shot. In this case it was a jab, that was turned into a hook. Morales was great at this, he caught Danny Garcia many times with it, but he threw the jab to the head, right hand to the body and then back up with the left hook. If Broner would have been more disciplined in his shell, he would have never been hit with these. I think he did it because Maidana's body work was hurting him, so he had to pay attention to the body shots. Against Paulie, he wasn't even paying them no mind. Excellent analysis - I think this is where Maidana has really improved and refined himself tactically. The body shots really hurt Broner - even when he was taking them on the arms / elbow. Defensively I thought Broner was totally exposed - Maidana will always be a puncher, but he had the perfect game plan to beat Broner. It was a victory for boxing last weekend, Broner totally underestimated his opponent, which at any level (let alone Professional) is arrogant, dangerous and stupid.

dude can still bounce back and be a great fighter. there are some great fights at 147, so broner will have a chance to prove himself.

Broner got too used to using his size advantages to overwhelm his opponents at the lower weight classes. I'm sure if his trainer is up to the task, or a new trainer if not, can sort out his clear deficiencies, particularly his footwork, for the future. Broner does have a lot of talent but it just feels like he isn't putting it to its proper use. Maidana certainly exposed the hype but Broner should be able to bounce back from this as a better fighter unless of course he doesn't have the motivation and/or self-awareness of his limitations. A lot of the time it seemed like Broner was an actor playing Mayweather in a movie but unfortunately for him he is not Mayweather and the Maidana fight was a real fight. I don't think though that we should count Broner out yet at welterweight. As for the size thing, Broner is defintiely a welterweight and he can't make lightweight anymore. Pretty much all the top junior welterweights are the same size as the top welterweights, I mean they fight at the same fight night weight most of the time as typical welterweights do and some even more so. Example: Alvarado (139.8) 157 Provodnikov (139.8) 148 Pacquiao (147) 150 Bradley (146) 147 Anyway time for Broner to realize that things just got a lot tougher and he needs to adapt to it. I agree and I think that Broner is a talented fighter. I just wanted to point out the overhype he received. Let's see if he comes back, because there's some great fights at 147 for him.

Broner got too used to using his size advantages to overwhelm his opponents at the lower weight classes. I'm sure if his trainer is up to the task, or a new trainer if not, can sort out his clear deficiencies, particularly his footwork, for the future. Broner does have a lot of talent but it just feels like he isn't putting it to its proper use. Maidana certainly exposed the hype but Broner should be able to bounce back from this as a better fighter unless of course he doesn't have the motivation and/or self-awareness of his limitations. A lot of the time it seemed like Broner was an actor playing Mayweather in a movie but unfortunately for him he is not Mayweather and the Maidana fight was a real fight. I don't think though that we should count Broner out yet at welterweight. As for the size thing, Broner is defintiely a welterweight and he can't make lightweight anymore. Pretty much all the top junior welterweights are the same size as the top welterweights, I mean they fight at the same fight night weight most of the time as typical welterweights do and some even more so. Example: Alvarado (139.8) 157 Provodnikov (139.8) 148 Pacquiao (147) 150 Bradley (146) 147 Anyway time for Broner to realize that things just got a lot tougher and he needs to adapt to it.

How you look doesn't mean anything, bodybuilders look good on stage but they're not in good condition. Stop trolling or do a better job.

i didn't say it was because of height, im piling up reasons obviously his bones are thin and he's shorter pacquiao and cotto aren't the same height neither, and cotto is obviously thicker boned, cotto used to have a solid 8 pac, now barely has 4 at 154, he's put on some fat broner is ripped yea, he's got a strong core, wide shoulders, kind of like pacquiao but also like pacquiao he doesn't really belong at 147, fighting actual 147 lb'ers, pacquiao does have bigger bones and unlike pacquiao, he's not as fercious, skilled or explosive malignaggi and maidana looked so much bigger and thicker than him despite him being shorter(usually the taller guy is thinner) i just think he should be at 140, but again, not sure how much good it will do him when he just isn't that good I just don't see it man, sorry. Broner might be a hair shorter, but the dude looked AMAZING at weigh in. His camp talked about going to 154 possibly... If he can make 140, that would be better, but I don't think he looked tiny vs Paulie or Maidana. He looked like a lagit WW and everyone there said the same thing. BTW, Miguel Cotto and Manny Pacquaio are both 5'7". I been next to both of them and believe me, they are the same size. Difference is, Cotto is a little bit thicker, while Manny's lower body is more powerfully built.

Exposed is probably the most overused word on this entire forum, but this is one of the few instances where I feel it's use is appropriate. Broner was outboxed and out jabbed as well as outfought. He didnt have answers for anything Maidana did. I don't know how he thought he was the next Floyd, withouth the reflexes or foot movement. With average foot speed, decent power, a come forward style while lacking the reflexes needed for a Floyd style defense, he'd be better off trying to emulate a Winky Wright style of boxing. He'll never touch Winky in terms of accomplishments or skill, but it'd be a better fit for him than trying to be Floyd. I also think the Berto comparisons are unfair, Berto does everything better than Broner does except for the shoulder roll where they're about equal. Berto was overhyped too, but he has real pop and very fast hands. His boxing fundamentals are also better than Broners. I wouldn't even rank Broner up there with Joel Julio off of Saturdays performance. It wasn't just used correctly, this was one of the great examples you could ever point to of a fighter being exposed. It doesn't get more "exposed" than Broner was.

He was paying too much attention to the jab, why a jab works against the shoulder roll is that you need to let it go because if you react the other guy can make an opening for much bigger shots. You want to come over the jab at times so the guy can't just abuse you with it but you can't try and defend everything, Broner didn't understand that concept. He got outmaneuvered plain and simple, he might have worked hard for the fight but working hard without understanding why you do certain things leads to wasted effort. So no matter what he did on the physical side he needed a lot more work on the mental side. Maybe a loss like this can spur him in that direction, he certainly wasn't going to go that route of his own accord. Exactly that. Working hard doesn't guarantee success. There's more to it than just that.

He was paying too much attention to the jab, why a jab works against the shoulder roll is that you need to let it go because if you react the other guy can make an opening for much bigger shots. You want to come over the jab at times so the guy can't just abuse you with it but you can't try and defend everything, Broner didn't understand that concept. He got outmaneuvered plain and simple, he might have worked hard for the fight but working hard without understanding why you do certain things leads to wasted effort. So no matter what he did on the physical side he needed a lot more work on the mental side. Maybe a loss like this can spur him in that direction, he certainly wasn't going to go that route of his own accord.

So we kind of knew Broner might be a little overated, or highly overated if you want to be honest. Don't know why Maidana couldn't stop him though? Broner's pretty thick and sausage like if nothing else-- If his balance is OK I think he's pretty hard to get off his feet. Also, Chino had him hurt a couple of times and didn't jump in blind. It's not that Chino didn't press to get Broner out of there, it's just that he seemed to make reasonably sure he wasn't going to get caught himself and let him go a few times.

Why was Broner such a sucker for the left hook? I really didn't expect him to be outsmarted like that against Maidana. It had been shown in previous fights that his defence had a lot of leaks, but I didn't think it was that bad. Mostly because he wasn't keeping his right hand up. For whatever reason, in a lot of instances, he was dropping his hands. The first knockdown, he dropped both hands before getting hit. Rather than raising the right to try and catch it. It was a shot he was not supposed to get hit with that easily. I think the pressure of Maidana really helped to throw him off his game too.

Roach said he had seen Broner badly hurt in sparring sessions, who those sparring sessions were against though I don't know. So we kind of knew Broner might be a little overated, or highly overated if you want to be honest. Don't know why Maidana couldn't stop him though?

His ability to recover from Maidanas power shots shows he is a legit welterweight, he was huge guy knocking out smaller guys, he has no power at 147 even Paulie said Broner has to really hit you with the perfect punch combo to buzz you, he hit Maidana with a perfect combo and buzzed him just a tad, but Maidana isn't known for a great chin he gets dropped a lot but has great recovery.

Height does not mean your weight, when will boxing fans understand this? Pac and Cotto are the same height, do you think Pac is as big as Cotto? LOL come on guys. Broner is a muscular, thick guy, he is not a 140lber, he's a WW. i didn't say it was because of height, im piling up reasons obviously his bones are thin and he's shorter pacquiao and cotto aren't the same height neither, and cotto is obviously thicker boned, cotto used to have a solid 8 pac, now barely has 4 at 154, he's put on some fat broner is ripped yea, he's got a strong core, wide shoulders, kind of like pacquiao but also like pacquiao he doesn't really belong at 147, fighting actual 147 lb'ers, pacquiao does have bigger bones and unlike pacquiao, he's not as fercious, skilled or explosive malignaggi and maidana looked so much bigger and thicker than him despite him being shorter(usually the taller guy is thinner) i just think he should be at 140, but again, not sure how much good it will do him when he just isn't that good

Broner wanted to be Floyd Mayweather Jr. without putting in all the "hard work and dedication," in the sense that he overestimated himself IMO. He drank his own kool-aid and thought he was a better fighter than he actually was, just because he shared vague similarities to Floyd. I think all the buzz and hype he got gave him a false sense of confidence and in came Maidana, a total pro and hard-working man, who gave him an ice cold dose of reality. Macros Maidana knew who he was as a fighter realistically, knew his strengths and limitations, Broner didn't and that was his undoing.

A.B.........YUHHHH KNOWWWW :lol1:

I have said for a long time that Broner is not as good as some thought. Now, after the fight, I thought Malignaggi was dead on when he said that he hadn't fought the level of competition that deserved him the recognition he was getting. He described them as "Laundromat workers" but in reality they were just really small guys. Broner did NOT go up in weight, that is a misconception. He was and is a WW. He wasn't making 135 anymore, let alone 130. He paid fines and looked HUGE vs guys like Reese and Demarco. At 147 he looked the best I have ever seen him physically, he was RIPPED. It's his natural weight and there's a reason his camp even said he could go up to 154 one day. So is he that bad or is Maidana that good? I said that if Broner is to beat Miadana, he would have to do one thing we haven't seen, and that's move. Use his footwork to out box Maidana but we had never seen that of Broner. Well, he can't move. He has no footwork, his philly shell is very hittable and we now see that getting hit by a lagit WW is a different thing all together. Broner just doesn't have the output of punches needed to counter and win on points, doesn't have the power to hurt any of the big WW (maybe except Khan with his chin but Khan is 2X the fighter) and he doesn't have the undefeated thing to promote himself with. His image took a hit, and Maidana showed that when he can't hurt you with his shots initially, he's in big trouble. I don't see him beating any of the top WW to be honest, unless he learns to move the way we saw Thurman evolve in his game. Broner has to become a boxer/puncher to have success again at this weight. On one last note about his character. I don't care the way he acts, the stupid things he does but... I believe if you are going to run your mouth, be a pro and a man and do the post fight interview. He was dirty in the fight, acted like a lowlife in dry humping Maidana, exaggerated the headbutt to the chin, was knocked down and said he was pushed, hit after the bell and ran away when it was time to pay the piper. I don't believe in Karma, but it sure looks like it was handed out tonight. Great post my man. I wish I could drop you a karma dose, but I have to spread around first.