The Klitschko's Are Unbeaten In Almost A Decade

Make that since July 2003. Pretty much since the start of the new millenium.

Great stuff but heavyweight boxing has been in the slums these last few yrs. Make that since July 2003.

Great stuff but heavyweight boxing has been in the slums these last few yrs.

:lol1: klitschko fanboys making their own rules again. He's right, though. Wlad has done everything to be considered universal champion. Soon he will become undisputed too.

You can't compare the 1940's system to the present. They both have it's flaws. In one, you could hold on to your title for years and not get stripped, contenders could be ducked and deprived of a title shot forever because they're not connected; The title could be controlled by the mafia etc,. And now you have four sanctioning body organizations with it's own faults. Wlad Klitschko might have an asterisk attached to his title defenses but I still view the full 15 title defenses as 15 title defenses. As in, he won a Title defended it until he won more titles and unified. He didn't become a "REAL" Champion because he defeated Ibragimov (who also wasn't a real Champion) or Chagaev (who wasn't a real Champion) or David Haye (who definitely wasn't a real champion). It's his total accumulations of Championship wins that makes him a REAL CHAMPION. The overall body of work and the clear/dominant and consistent manner in which he did it (I.E. no split decision/robbery controversies). So yes, all of his title defenses count. :lol1: klitschko fanboys making their own rules again.

Lennox has the better resume, but Wlad is getting up there close to him when we talk HW ATG status; look for Wlad to become the first undisputed HW champ since Lennox this or next year. Resume-wise, Wlad can still add some good names over the next couple years too.

What year was it that Chris Byrd KO'd the older Klitschko?

Do you think he could even find Ukraine on a map if his life depended on it? Common, the guy is probably from Philly and lives in a bubble where nothing matters or exists outside of his 'hood'. Man just stop....which Philly dude here got you smelling like a model for cornball cologne?!?....check YOURSELF and flush that hateful mess outta your system....I know why you're shooting blanks at the city though....this chess not checkers!!

No. Quite the contrary. Some of the fighters in the HOF shouldn't be there. I agree some fighters shouldn't be in the HOF - but of the top off my head I can't remember any heavyweights that unfairly got into the HOF.

They are relative fresh and will have about 10 years of career left. I didn't say Wlad has a better resume than Lummox. Just that they where close. Close as in about 1 place in the HW all time ranking as I see it. Maybe combined they will. There's no way in hell that Wilder is going to last ten years. Or Pulev. Fury might, but he'll never be a force. Well, I disagree - but that's besides the point. In terms of resume, Lennox has beaten far better fighters, more #1 contenders - has avenged his losses, beaten the man who beat the man, beaten the recognized champ - and of course beaten Vitali Klitschko - one win that stinks all over everyone of Wlad's wins - and it wasn't even Lewis' best win.

Which of the current era's fighters, other than the klitschko's, do you think deserve a place in the HOF? You must believe that someone does, since you bring it up. No. Quite the contrary. Some of the fighters in the HOF shouldn't be there.

eric crumble is also unbeaten over the last decade

Each title defense discussed.. Louis was defending as well as part of his record. Wba.. Wbc & IBF if I'm not mistaken all were involved in Louis's defenses & if they weren't.. ask yourself how many titlLISts did Louis have to beat to get his strap(s)... Klitschko's beat 2 to get there streak started.... IBF & WBC lmfao just stop posting..there was only 1 title back then...lol.you have to be trolling

Pulev is 32, Wilder is 28. There's not much future to see. What you see is what you get. There's absolutely no solid base to stand on when you say that beating 3 guys who 'might very well be the future' will elevate Wlad to be one of the best. their combined best win is Steve Cunningham! Bat, are you claiming Wlad's resume is better than Lennox's? I think this calls for a new thread. They are relative fresh and will have about 10 years of career left. I didn't say Wlad has a better resume than Lummox. Just that they where close. Close as in about 1 place in the HW all time ranking as I see it.

So there where many HOF'ers. Ok. Who of those guys I mentioned are HOF'ers? Another thing. HW boxing is today dominated by eastern europeans. The HOF selection is biased towards fighters who fights in the US. Dont take my word for it. Take Cliff Rold's. He is a voter and has said that himself. There May not be other HW HOF'ers than the klits from this era, but that just might be partly attributed to the fatyank bias. What is the NBA? :) Which of the current era's fighters, other than the klitschko's, do you think deserve a place in the HOF? You must believe that someone does, since you bring it up.

so now they count as one person???lol

if you say so. These men fought in an era when many of the greatest HWT's fought. wlad is fighting in an era where there are virtually no HOF hwt's. So there where many HOF'ers. Ok. Who of those guys I mentioned are HOF'ers? Another thing. HW boxing is today dominated by eastern europeans. The HOF selection is biased towards fighters who fights in the US. Dont take my word for it. Take Cliff Rold's. He is a voter and has said that himself. There May not be other HW HOF'ers than the klits from this era, but that just might be partly attributed to the fatyank bias. Its like comparing alonzo ourning to nate thurmond in basketball. Alonzo has a ring, more allstars and more all nba appearances. yet no NBA expert thinks alonzo is anywhere near thurmond. why? Because when Alonzo played, shaq was the only prime, dominant HOF center. Thurmond played against reed, kareem, russell, walton and wilt. I think thats a good comparison between wlad and larry. What is the NBA? :)

Wlad beat plenty of high class boxers. He beat the best of his era. You can't really complain about his resume. He's the best of his era. Very true!!

Well you can check boxrec. But that's not really the point. Those guys might very possible be the future of the division, and Wlad beating them will see his legacy grow. Lol. No. Pulev is 32, Wilder is 28. There's not much future to see. What you see is what you get. There's absolutely no solid base to stand on when you say that beating 3 guys who 'might very well be the future' will elevate Wlad to be one of the best. their combined best win is Steve Cunningham! Bat, are you claiming Wlad's resume is better than Lennox's? I think this calls for a new thread.

Solid as in mediocrity, yes. From one of BoxingScene's better historian's, this is an absolute astonishing admission. :lol1: Wlad beat plenty of high class boxers. He beat the best of his era. You can't really complain about his resume. He's the best of his era.