Amir Khan is now 27 years of age, while Floyd Mayweather is 36. If we compare Floyd's resume to Khan's, only concentrating on the opposition Floyd fought up to the age of 27, in my opinion Khan has fought the superior opposition overall. In fact, Khan has fought significantly more undefeated fighters than Floyd already. The thing about undefeated fighters is that there is usually no established game plan to beat them as yet, they are sometimes unknown quantities.
Just a quick comparison, taking into account recognized skilled boxers, as well as undefeated fighters (essentially unknown quantities).
By age 27, the top fighters, including undefeated unknown quantities, and including fighters with 3 losses or less (excluding early-career novices)..
Red = undefeated
Floyd Mayweather
1998-06-14 Tony Pep 39-6-0
1998-10-03 Genaro Hernandez 38-1-1
1998-12-19 Angel Manfredy 25-2-1
1999-02-17 Carlos Alberto Ramon Rios 44-2-1
1999-05-22 Justin Juuko 33-2-1
1999-09-11 Carlos Gerena 34-2-0
2000-03-18 Gregorio Vargas 40-6-1
2000-10-21 Emanuel Augustus 22-16-4
2001-01-20 Diego Corrales 33-0-0
2001-05-26 Carlos Hernandez 33-2-1
2001-11-10 Jesus Chavez 35-1-0
2002-04-20 Jose Luis Castillo 45-4-1
Amir Khan
2007-07-14 Willie Limond 28-1-0
2007-10-06 Scott Lawton 20-3-1
2007-12-08 Graham Earl 25-2-0
2008-04-05 Martin Kristjansen 19-1-3
2008-09-06 Breidis Prescott 19-0-0
2009-03-14 Marco Antonio Barrera 65-6-0
2009-07-18 Andriy Kotelnik 31-2-1
2009-12-05 Dmitriy Salita 30-0-1
2010-05-15 Paul Malignaggi 27-3-0
2010-12-11 Marcos Rene Maidana 29-1-0
2011-04-16 Paul McCloskey 22-0-0
2011-07-23 Zab Judah 41-6-0
2011-12-10 Lamont Peterson 29-1-1
2012-07-14 Danny Garcia 23-0-0
2012-12-15 Carlos Molina 17-0-1
2013-04-27 Julio Diaz 40-7-1
Arguably yes, BUT
1) Khan turned pro at a younger age than Mayweather.
2) He has lost 3 times.
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Aruguably Khan has fought competitive if not better names. I'm gona discount MAB. He has Peterson who is still a champion and a top rated contender but a cheat, Judah who up until Paulie was a legit contender who Khan TOOK OUT! Maidana is one of the most feared fighters in and around the division and more so back then.
Floyd had the terrific Hernandez, Corrales who was a Maidana type fighter but didn't hit as hard and Castillo who is an absolutely top name to have on there but not really great.
So plenty of similarities.
Stopped reading at the bold. Everyone knew that.
Physically Dawson does have the advantages. He's bigger, faster & has more power in every single punch. But it's what you don't see that gives Ward the edge. He's smarter, & he has more heart. He's a student of the game. Ward by ud in 1 of this years most meaningful fights. My hats off to both men.
You were saying? lol
He got you there bush.
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TS is 100% right.
Khan has the only first ballot HOFer on there in Barrera
Floyd's best 2 wins have asterisks next to them
99% of people thought Castillo beat him
He fought a Corrales (R.I.P.) that was so drained that he was seen backstage fight before the fight eating a giant sub.
To the TS, I think that's a fair assessment.
I also think that Floyd would have dominated that resume much more if he were faced with it instead of Khan though.
Stopped reading at the bold. Everyone knew that.
You were saying? lol
Physically Dawson does have the advantages. He's bigger, faster & has more power in every single punch. But it's what you don't see that gives Ward the edge. He's smarter, & he has more heart. He's a student of the game. Ward by ud in 1 of this years most meaningful fights. My hats off to both men.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=562070&highlight=dawson
You called it "one of the years most meaningful fights" - If you knew Dawson would be weight-drained, a sitting duck and beaten easily by Ward why would you call it that? You should have called it "a joke of a fight because Dawson will be a weight-drained zombie".. but, you didn't, did you..
Stopped reading at the bold. Everyone knew that.
Everyone says they knew that now but that's called the benefit of hindsight and people will try to rewrite history. At the time, most people thought Dawson was a legitimate threat at 168.
just like I believed Dawson would be weight-drained and defeated easily by Ward when most people thought I was trolling..
I predicted mayweather would put drug-testing in the Pacquiao contract years ago.. big @ss thread about it.. 3 weeks later ellerbe came out and said it was going to be put in the contract...
I predicted emanuel steward was brain-dead and on life-support when there were rumors going back and forth about him being dead because some of his friends were saying he was while his immediate family were telling everyone to stop lying... it turned out he was brain-dead and on life-support as predicted..
I could go on but you get the idea...
Stopped reading at the bold. Everyone knew that.
I honestly cannot tell if you're a troll fix, or if you actually believe the $h!t you come up with.
just like I believed Dawson would be weight-drained and defeated easily by Ward when most people thought I was trolling..
I predicted mayweather would put drug-testing in the Pacquiao contract years ago.. big @ss thread about it.. 3 weeks later ellerbe came out and said it was going to be put in the contract...
I predicted emanuel steward was brain-dead and on life-support when there were rumors going back and forth about him being dead because some of his friends were saying he was while his immediate family were telling everyone to stop lying... it turned out he was brain-dead and on life-support as predicted..
I could go on but you get the idea...
Chavez is easily better than everyone on Khans except for Garcia (possibly).
Jesus Chavez was decent in his prime, but he was never an elite fighter - his record is fluffed up. But this isn't about who fought the single best opponent, it's about all opponents combined up to the age of 27.
Interestingly enough, Chavez got knocked out by Julio Diaz (Khan's last opponent) in 3 rounds. He was past prime at that point but Diaz may have beaten him in his prime too although not so easily. So Julio Diaz might actually be better than Jesus Chavez, and Julio Diaz is on Khan's record, not Mayweather's...
The champions and contenders are of vastly different quality. It shouldn't really be in discussion. The champion / contender thing is used to suit arguments, Floyds fought nothing but champions / contenders recently but people knock him for not fighting who they call the best fighters. It goes both ways.
Go back to my OP and see thats exactly what I wrote. A few people on Floyds resume makes it better. But it's not like he fought one HOFer after another in those days. And people are criticizing Khans resume because it's Khan. He's fought some pretty decent fighters for his era. There's really only one or two he didn't fight like Bradley and Alexander. Maybe Matthysse.
The quality of Floyd's resume is better though at that stage.
How is it not comparable? There are champions and contenders on both records. Undefeated fighters and fighters who were established in their respective division.
Khan fought some pretty good fighters.
The champions and contenders are of vastly different quality. It shouldn't really be in discussion. The champion / contender thing is used to suit arguments, Floyds fought nothing but champions / contenders recently but people knock him for not fighting who they call the best fighters. It goes both ways.
It's well documented his trainer troubles in this period, Malinaggi struggled in wins over N'dou and Fernandez, and got TKO'd by Hatton before the Khan fight (he beat baby bull "twice" as well I know, but he was tailor made for Paulie and was at the tail end of his career!) almost immediately Malignaggi moved to 147! I'm not saying that Paulie at 100% would beat Khan but he certainly wasn't at his best when he fought him!
Zab had fought Santa Cruz, Matthysse and Mabuza previous to Kahn and should have been beaten by a Lucas, the only reason he didn't get KO'd was because he ran the entire fight! Santa Cruz was a tomato can and Judah struggled big time against Mabuza until the TKO I thought he was fortunate! He was also 34 so you can't say he was really prime to begin with! In fact the Garcia fight was the only fight I can think of in recent memory where Judah actually seemed motivated!
Hey these are just my opinions, as I said, I commend Khan for taking all comers and he was a decent fighter but I don't feel that his record is much at 27 compared to Mayweather's and some of the fighters were not in their prime! (And I feel his days as a world class fighter are long over)
Malignaggi said beforehand he was in great shape. He was coming off a couple of good wins vs Diaz as you say, should have won both times. He also put a one-sided "beating" (nothing Malignaggi does can be classified as a beating though) against N'Dou in the first fight. He was stopped way too early in the Hatton fight - but didn't look good I agree.
Paulie broke his hand against N'dou in the rematch and there were the issues with the dreads or whatever it was and it was more a case of him being lazy than N'dou actually making it hard for him imo. He won that fight 7-5 in my book.
Basically, he was in a pretty good run of form. Especially for a fighter that, if we're honest, was nothing more than pretty good. I don't think he was especially better in any fight than he was in the first N'dou fight or the second Diaz fight.
Zab probably did lose a decision to Matthysse, but I thought he put up a good showing. I didn't say he was prime, but he wasn't in a "major slump" having just come off a couple of good wins and had picked up a belt in the progress. Khan was the fav, but I don't think people expected him to put a beating on Zab like he did and make him quit.
its not comparable at all. smh. seriously whats wrong with this site???
How is it not comparable? There are champions and contenders on both records. Undefeated fighters and fighters who were established in their respective division.
Khan fought some pretty good fighters.
I think Khan's is better. I mean he beat Salita in 1 round, and the Barrera win is equal if not better to Hernandez the lineal 130 champ.
Malignaggi, Maidana, Prescott, are also equal to Castillo, Corrales, Chavez.
Molina, who had the unknown entity within him, is better than Manfredy the #2 ranked SFW at the time.
Then there's Garcia, Peterson, Diaz who Floyd doesn't even have anyone on his resume to compare them too. I ran out of fighters to compare from Floyd's limited 27 year old ressume. Khan has too many wins.
Not close, Khan P4P one of the best resumes of any fighter within 27 years old in the history of fighters who fought up to at least 27 years old.
I guess it's comparable. People won't like to admit it, but it is comparable.
The difference is that Floyd fought guys like Augustus, Hernandez, Castillo and Corrales. Khan hasn't really fought established world class fighters like some of the above (i'm including Augustus because he gave Floyd a hell of a fight).
Khan has also fought established champions like Kotelnik, Malignaggi, Judah, Garcia etc. But imo they are just that step below - if you look through their records at the time of the fight none of these guys really have any particularly great wins. Unlike Castillo, Corrales at the time of the Mayweather fight.
That being said, I still think it's comparable - Khan fought some pretty good fighters. But Mayweather's resume at the stage was better.
its not comparable at all. smh. seriously whats wrong with this site???