Not impressed by Lomachenko

Not impressed by the kid and bold to say he is garbage and don't give a crap about his amature background this is the pros totally diffrent. So he is fighting a shop worn vet in salido that will still give a lot of problems or beat him.

What I've gathered ITT from the OP: Being skilled doesn't matter if you're not "slick" to go with it (lol) If you get "touched up" you're seriously flawed and not impressive. (You onow, because Floyd NEVER gets hit, including the 118 times Robert "The Ghost" Guertero touched Floyd, and including the two times Rigondeux has been on the canvas from being touched) :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I personally think he is going to get past Salido. Salido's claim to fame is beating Lopez, who's claim to fame was Bob Arum's thought he was going to be Tito Trinidad. But when he gets in there with some of the rougher customers who can take his shots and keep coming, hes not of the temperament to get on his bike and run, and as Juan Diaz showed us several times, when you don't have that power, all the pressure in the world won't overcome. I'm just taking a good hard look at him, and comparing him to what is expected of him, which is greatness. He is in a position like Rigo, he is already developed, he's not going to change much if any at this point in the game. He is ready to fight the best, he's been fighting the best already. Its just a question of how well his assets will work for him in the pro ranks. Salido is a lot better than advertised. He also beat Guerrero. Personally, I think Lomachenko has plenty of talent and potential, but fighting Salido in his 2nd pro fight is nearly insane. If he gets past him, that makes it all the more impressive. I wouldn't be surprised if Salido stops him.

The way i see it you can say Lomachenko is overhyped simply because he has more hype than any fighter that i can remember. But to say you aren't impressed after a four round ko win over a durable good opponent in his pro debut sounds like someone trying hard to go against the grain. There is lots Loma needs to do. He struggled a little trying to pace himself and fight a slower pace in his debut. Hopefully he will continue to improve that. He also needs to use the turtle shell defence a bit less, and he's more than capable of doing that too. But in general.if you weren't impressed with that debut then what debut in history would impress you?

I know one thing, Top Rank is barking up the wrong tree talking about Rigo-Lomachenko for 2014. From what I've seen, Rigondeaux will easily take him to school. im starting to think rigo easily takes anyone in boxing to school

As max said of Rigondeaux that was Baby pro Lomanchenko he should improve a lot with a few fights being as good technically as he is. They dont give gold medals away and i believe while his power is not amazeballs he can still get people out of there overwhelming them.

Not impressed either, I made a thread about it a little while ago : http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=614286

This is the common concern. It just seems too early for him as a pro, I also would like to see him in at least another 2 or 3 fights first, but apparently Loma himself made it condition of him signing that he got the absolute earliest title fight possible (he woulda fought for a belt on his first fight if he could). I would like to see the Salido fight because winning would be a historic accomplishment, but if he gets past Salido (and I hope he will), he should settle the eff down and fight some cans and second raters before he takes on the real elite at/around his weight (Garcia, Rigo, even Donaire).

He seems to be getting quite a bit of hype already, and I remember people salivating during the olympics, but honestly, I am sold on him. I've been watching his WSB fights, and he looks like he gets touched up to much, and is a fairly light puncher. He is good at touching people up for points it looks like, but I have a feeling he isn't going to transfer so well into the professional ranks. He is very skilled, but not in a slick way. Given his style, his power deficit will probably catch up to him sooner rather than later, especially if he is already fighting guys like Salido. I know he blamed the power on the gloves in the WSB, but it just to me doesn't look like there is even much force behind his shots to begin with. He is an arm puncher. So you are sold on him.

I'm impressed, but Top Rank is probably moving him waaaay to quick to have him fight Salido already. That's a hard fight for the best and most experienced of pros, if Lomachenko wins the guy is a legend. This is the common concern. It just seems too early for him as a pro, I also would like to see him in at least another 2 or 3 fights first, but apparently Loma himself made it condition of him signing that he got the absolute earliest title fight possible (he woulda fought for a belt on his first fight if he could).

I personally think he is going to get past Salido. Salido's claim to fame is beating Lopez, who's claim to fame was Bob Arum's thought he was going to be Tito Trinidad. But when he gets in there with some of the rougher customers who can take his shots and keep coming, hes not of the temperament to get on his bike and run, and as Juan Diaz showed us several times, when you don't have that power, all the pressure in the world won't overcome. I'm just taking a good hard look at him, and comparing him to what is expected of him, which is greatness. He is in a position like Rigo, he is already developed, he's not going to change much if any at this point in the game. He is ready to fight the best, he's been fighting the best already. Its just a question of how well his assets will work for him in the pro ranks. So you think he can get past a hardened, world class veteran in his second pro fight, yet you are not impressed by him? You are contradicting yourself, dude. And when people say "I'm not impressed with Loma because this and that...", I like to remind them how vulnerable Rigo looked not very long before the Donaire win. Loma is a friggin novice, a super talented one, but still a novice. Let him ease into the pro ranks. Actually, if I didn't want to see him make history by becoming a world champ in his second fight, I would advise against the Salido fight, because it might be too soon for him. Does that mean I doubt his potential? Absolutely not.

I'm impressed, but Top Rank is probably moving him waaaay to quick to have him fight Salido already. That's a hard fight for the best and most experienced of pros, if Lomachenko wins the guy is a legend.

So your evidence for Lomachenko not being a big puncher is a video of him hurting a 5'10 140lb spoiler Maxwell who is three weighclasses naturally bigger than him while wearing WSB gloves. Makes sense.

Salido stops him. But lets not expose him to much yet, i want good odds when i put money down on Salido.

I know one thing, Top Rank is barking up the wrong tree talking about Rigo-Lomachenko for 2014. From what I've seen, Rigondeaux will easily take him to school.

Everyone all together, in 3...2...1... You don't know shit about boxing. :fest30:

Hmm...well we'll find out soon enough won't we. Let's face it, so far in the pros we only have 1 fight to look at. Like it or not in the WSB he was fighting the amateur equivalent of top 10s in pretty much every fight, yet didn't lose more than a few rounds (Selimov his World Championship nemesis was the only one to take him close). If he can beat Salido in his second fight than it's hard to be that critical I'd say. Let's just wait and see... I personally think he is going to get past Salido. Salido's claim to fame is beating Lopez, who's claim to fame was Bob Arum's thought he was going to be Tito Trinidad. But when he gets in there with some of the rougher customers who can take his shots and keep coming, hes not of the temperament to get on his bike and run, and as Juan Diaz showed us several times, when you don't have that power, all the pressure in the world won't overcome. I'm just taking a good hard look at him, and comparing him to what is expected of him, which is greatness. He is in a position like Rigo, he is already developed, he's not going to change much if any at this point in the game. He is ready to fight the best, he's been fighting the best already. Its just a question of how well his assets will work for him in the pro ranks.

He seems to be getting quite a bit of hype already, and I remember people salivating during the olympics, but honestly, I am sold on him. I've been watching his WSB fights, and he looks like he gets touched up to much, and is a fairly light puncher. He is good at touching people up for points it looks like, but I have a feeling he isn't going to transfer so well into the professional ranks. He is very skilled, but not in a slick way. Given his style, his power deficit will probably catch up to him sooner rather than later, especially if he is already fighting guys like Salido. I know he blamed the power on the gloves in the WSB, but it just to me doesn't look like there is even much force behind his shots to begin with. Hmm...well we'll find out soon enough won't we. Let's face it, so far in the pros we only have 1 fight to look at. Like it or not in the WSB he was fighting the amateur equivalent of top 10s in pretty much every fight, yet didn't lose more than a few rounds (Selimov his World Championship nemesis was the only one to take him close). If he can beat Salido in his second fight than it's hard to be that critical I'd say. Let's just wait and see...