He has no killer instincts. He has no inside game. He has no chin. It's a product of the Cuban system.
That's why he doesn't go for the kill , that's why he will rather stay outside and not break down his opponent. And don't give me that , "Agbeko is a tough fighter , he would've never gotten stopped" You don't have to be a warrior either. Gamboa is more entertaining in that aspect. When he sees his opponent hurt , he at least tries. Rigo plays it too damn safe.
I know it's a bad comparison if I compare him to Kirkland. But why can't a fighter like Rigo with such offensive arsenal do something like Kirkland did to Tapia. I believe it's a lack of those 3 things. Tapia went on survival mode too. And Kirkland attacked relentlessly , him having a suspect chin also.
Too much pot shot from the outside is only entertaining for so long. Rigo plays it too damn safe.
It's a pattern , it's not only Agbeko. It's different when you are beating the **** out of a fighter like Cotto vs Margarito. That Cotto just doesn't see a possible way out and he took his soul. It's another thing to play it to safe , with such skills that your opponent is left without a chance and just puts his hands up all night searching for answers. I keep seeing , Agbeko didn't even try. Really??
Because all I saw was Agbeko searching for something , knowing his hands needed to be up at all times. Cuz he was going to be pot shotted till the final bell.
Or why else would a fighter with Agbeko's reputation do what he did? Please don't tell me Rigo is not capable of picking his opponents apart with the arsenal he has. He just doesn't have it in him.
If you make normally exciting fighters boring, you have to evaluate your style. You can't expect opponents of yours to fight in a way that makes it easy for you to look good and then blame the rest of the world when HBO doesn't want to air your fights again.
The reason why Rigondeaux made Agbeko boring is because Agbeko understood after a couple rounds that Rigondeaux had too much skill, speed and power so he decided to play it safe. It's not like Rigondeaux clinched and cut down Agbeko's workrate, like Hopkins does, there was no aggression to begin with.
What TR needs to do is better match making for rigo. You can't pit a pure boxer vs rigo. It would make for a very uneventful fight. U need to pit rigo against an all action come forward puncher who's gonna fight till he gets knocked out or knocks you out. It will force rigo to be more aggressive.
But Agbeko is not a pure boxer, he's normally very aggressive but Rigondeaux made him give up mentally. Even sluggers have a change of heart after a few rounds with Rigondeaux, it's crazy.
Yup yUp and yuP I have a feeling if Rigo was Mexican this thread would not exist.
If Rigo was Mexican he wouldn't be champ because he'd be willing to take 1 to dish 1 and he has no chin. So he would have been floored already.
Those are knockouts of vulnerable opponents none of those guys where in their shell trying to survive Juanma was attacking Salido's fist with his face ffs throwing punches and getting caught for that to happen you HAVE to throw punches. Humiliation is what you witnessed but whatever floats your boat you're just upset everyone didn't come out and tell you how right you where...because you weren't. I couldn't be any happier with how things are going for Rigo people like you will always post threads like these while he keeps blasting away his competition wether it be by K.O or which to me a shutout is more impressive than taking an over matched guy with no good defense and putting a guy infront of him that is supposed to knock him the fk out and then he does woopty do what a surprise. If Agbeko would have been his usual self and Rigo knocks him the fk out in 3 your thread would be "Rigo picking on weak opposition and lacks blablablabla"
I don't need anyone to tell me I'm right. That's not what I'm looking for , I was looking for a discussion of why Rigo isn't able to finish the job. And if not finish the job , try to make Agbeko open up. Rigo has the Cuban system mastered. Good for him. Not much outside of that game plan. Not that he will need it to win fight.
I can't imagine a guy so good no being able to go inside. It's a hole. Don't be so hurt. I don't see anyone beating him.
I read someone said its not killer instinct he lack, it's the willingness to make things happen. So I'm going to take that one back and replace it with "willingness...."
He does lack inside game. And a chin.
That's just my opinion.
I would have liked to see him hook around the defense. To me the only reason why a fighter woyldnt do that to his opponent who is shelled up is lack of inside game playing it too safe.
Those are knockouts of vulnerable opponents none of those guys where in their shell trying to survive Juanma was attacking Salido's fist with his face ffs throwing punches and getting caught for that to happen you HAVE to throw punches. Humiliation is what you witnessed but whatever floats your boat you're just upset everyone didn't come out and tell you how right you where...because you weren't. I couldn't be any happier with how things are going for Rigo people like you will always post threads like these while he keeps blasting away his competition wether it be by K.O or which to me a shutout is more impressive than taking an over matched guy with no good defense and putting a guy infront of him that is supposed to knock him the fk out and then he does woopty do what a surprise. If Agbeko would have been his usual self and Rigo knocks him the fk out in 3 your thread would be "Rigo picking on weak opposition and lacks blablablabla"
Yup yUp and yuP I have a feeling if Rigo was Mexican this thread would not exist.
You are the most hurt of them all. Answer , why couldn't have Rigo who "took his soul" done a bit of inside work. Hooks around his defense , some uppers on the inside. I remember Cotto shelling up and Margarito opening that defense with some bomb.
Why?
I'll wait. Next assessment. All you've implied is Rigo took his soul.
Acting like Rigo put a hurt on him.
I consider Mikey vs Martinez taking souls.
Or Salido vs Juanma
Or Segura vs Calderon
Those are knockouts of vulnerable opponents none of those guys where in their shell trying to survive Juanma was attacking Salido's fist with his face ffs throwing punches and getting caught for that to happen you HAVE to throw punches. Humiliation is what you witnessed but whatever floats your boat you're just upset everyone didn't come out and tell you how right you where...because you weren't. I couldn't be any happier with how things are going for Rigo people like you will always post threads like these while he keeps blasting away his competition wether it be by K.O or which to me a shutout is more impressive than taking an over matched guy with no good defense and putting a guy infront of him that is supposed to knock him the fk out and then he does woopty do what a surprise. If Agbeko would have been his usual self and Rigo knocks him the fk out in 3 your thread would be "Rigo picking on weak opposition and lacks blablablabla"
Narvaez did NOT go into survival mode the way Agbeko did. Don't even try that. Narvaez and Donaire didn't have such a gap in talent. Narvaez was obviously being dominated but still throwing. He wasnt as scared as Agbeko of getting koed.
Agbeko couldn't find anything to hit and was getting pot shot. Rigo just doesn't have it in him to be more aggressive.
Even if your correct that works against your theory because that means Nonito had no excuse for a boring a$$ fight.
If the dude don't open up you cant break his damn legs simple as that dont get mad peple tore up all your "points" lol Better luck on the next assessment.
You are the most hurt of them all. Answer , why couldn't have Rigo who "took his soul" done a bit of inside work. Hooks around his defense , some uppers on the inside. I remember Cotto shelling up and Margarito opening that defense with some bomb.
Why?
I'll wait. Next assessment. All you've implied is Rigo took his soul.
Acting like Rigo put a hurt on him.
I consider Mikey vs Martinez taking souls.
Or Salido vs Juanma
Or Segura vs Calderon
That's what Agbeko was supposed to be. If he can't make entertaining fight with Agbeko, it's not going to happen with anyone else, regardless of which fighter is to blame.
Yeah, I don't think anybody was expecting Agbeko to fight so reluctant and only wish to survive, at least not that early. In retrospect, they should have gone with Kiko Martinez, I'm almost certain he would have made it a fight unlike Clottey Jr.
Hurt ass *****es.
Rigo lacks those 3 things.
People implyingng with their comments that Rigo fought the way he did because his opponent went on survival mode.
He would have fought the same way had Agbeko been throwing more. It's just who he is.
Someone said it , what about a right hook to the head around Agbekos defense? You know , in the inside. I remember Pac doing that against Agbeko , I mean Clottey lol. Since people are saying he turned Clottey.
Pac tried to get Clottey out of his shell.
Rigo couldn't have been happier that Agbeko was being completely outclassed and overwhelmed.
No hooks around Agbekos defense to the body either , again n the inside.
Common people , don't tell me Rigo can't do those things. If it's not because he lacks it and plays it too safe then why?
If the dude don't open up you cant break his damn legs simple as that dont get mad peple tore up all your "points" lol Better luck on the next assessment.
Hurt ass *****es.
Rigo lacks those 3 things.
People implyingng with their comments that Rigo fought the way he did because his opponent went on survival mode.
He would have fought the same way had Agbeko been throwing more. It's just who he is.
Someone said it , what about a right hook to the head around Agbekos defense? You know , in the inside. I remember Pac doing that against Agbeko , I mean Clottey lol. Since people are saying he turned Clottey.
Pac tried to get Clottey out of his shell.
Rigo couldn't have been happier that Agbeko was being completely outclassed and overwhelmed.
No hooks around Agbekos defense to the body either , again n the inside.
Common people , don't tell me Rigo can't do those things. If it's not because he lacks it and plays it too safe then why?
Rigo has a lot of amateurs fights. His mind set is stuck in scoring cleaning and not getting hit. Lara does the same thing and Gamboa does it at times.
These guys control the space they fight in and their accurate counterpunching slows down the pace.
The only way to fight these guys is to disrupt the space they are comfortable in which is not an easy task.
Sometimes being a powerful and dangerous guy in boxing is a bad thing as Nonito Donaire has noticed in several recent fight much like Manny Pacquiao ... opponents tend to think more defensively and are scared to open up and casual fans tend to just imply they lack killer instinct or lost their power
What TR needs to do is better match making for rigo. You can't pit a pure boxer vs rigo. It would make for a very uneventful fight. U need to pit rigo against an all action come forward puncher who's gonna fight till he gets knocked out or knocks you out. It will force rigo to be more aggressive.
That's what Agbeko was supposed to be. If he can't make entertaining fight with Agbeko, it's not going to happen with anyone else, regardless of which fighter is to blame.
What TR needs to do is better match making for rigo. You can't pit a pure boxer vs rigo. It would make for a very uneventful fight. U need to pit rigo against an all action come forward puncher who's gonna fight till he gets knocked out or knocks you out. It will force rigo to be more aggressive.
This is Rigo's Achilles heel??? Get the **** out if here! When I heard Max Kellerman say that it was fvcking ridiculous.
Rigo has a solid beard and has been dropped 2 times in his whole life. Cardoba scored a flash KD and Donaire literally cheated his way to land a solid hook on Rigo and Rigo fell got back up and wasn't wobbled or hurt and continued to whoop Nonito ass.
Time to put the Rigondeaux has no chin myth to bed
Not really. Rigo was the one who clinched. And yes, Rigo deserves credit for getting up immediately.
Marquez is clueless when he fights guys who aren't aggressive.
He's neutralized a bit against other boxers who fight at a distance, not against the punchingbag Agbeko we saw last night. Absolutely nothing like what happened last night would have happened if JMM had fought Agbeko. JMM would created his own action had Agbeko shelled up against him and bring out the real Agebeko we know we love out.
If you make normally exciting fighters boring, you have to evaluate your style. You can't expect opponents of yours to fight in a way that makes it easy for you to look good and then blame the rest of the world when HBO doesn't want to air your fights again.