What gets me is this... After VisionQwest finds these discrepancies and suspicious activity going on and communicate their findings to you (confirming your suspicions no less), how does Koncz and Arum not only convince Pacquiao of there being no foul play, but to also fire and not pay VisionQwest for their services as well?
C'mon Manny...
I mean... They probably eased Manny's suspicions by giving him access to his paperwork and going over it with him, but... He didn't understand that **** and they told him whatever they wanted anyway.
When a manager and promoter are in cahoots, a fighter is easily swindled. This is similar to what Don and Carl King were doing.
Before this news had been reported, I had an inkling that Koncz and Arum were financially taking advantage of Manny. Forget about all the shady details uncovered by VisionQwest... You can never trust a rat face and it doesn't get any more rat face than Koncz...
One of the unreported consequences (and the reason I had my inkling) of this issue is Arum under-reported Pacquiao's earnings. My suspicion came about because of the low purse figured reported to the NSAC and the Top Rank/Golden Boy settlement agreement (with Top Rank being obligated to give Golden Boy a certain % of Manny's purse). After the dust settles and all the information comes to light, GBP will realize by how much money they were underpaid and will sue accordingly. This is just the beginning...
It's weird how Mayweather basically forecasted this in 2009 before his comeback bout. Don't know how to imbed but:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rKIBrbzPec
Seems like Floyd is such an expert when it comes to Pacquiao. But when asked to negotatiate a fight between the two he says "I don't even know which company he belongs to."
F*cking retard. Clown. Fake bully. Coward gnat.
Alot will stay in denial like junior dong since they've been hoping and claiming Floyd will be broke in 5 years. But in reality PAC is. Damn shame though
Floyd seems to have gotten a little smarter and maybe learnt his lesson and pays his taxes. He very well may still end up broke when he hangs them up, who knows?:dunno:
One thing I can say is that I have absolutely no sympathy for these rich cunts that feel like they can weasel their way out of paying tax and if Manny has no idea how much he is getting and how much he should have then its hard to be too sympathetic either.
Its amazing that we all thought floyd would be the one broke with tax problems with all his high gambling, n cars, BUT it turned out to be Pacquiao.
Lol Pacquiao really needs to rid himself of konz , arum and those leeches filipinos except buboy n roach. Pacquiao will never learn though tahts why go to school kiddies lol
It's the way pac was brought up. Very humble and naive. Such a shame.
Its amazing that we all thought floyd would be the one broke with tax problems with all his high gambling, n cars, BUT it turned out to be Pacquiao.
Lol Pacquiao really needs to rid himself of konz , arum and those leeches filipinos except buboy n roach. Pacquiao will never learn though tahts why go to school kiddies lol
Alot will stay in denial like junior dong since they've been hoping and claiming Floyd will be broke in 5 years. But in reality PAC is. Damn shame though
I would never hope any one goes broke.
I would laugh and cheer anything boxing related, like Marquez KO against Pacquiao. But once Pacquiao's personal life comes in to play, like cheating on his wife, gambling/drinking problems, IRS problems, I hope for the best for him. Spiteful fanbases are the opposite, they cheer on a fighter's downfall on a personal level. We know who they are.
Any one with half a brain has an idea of what the problem could be here. Only those who are pro-Top Rank are in denial. Real Pac fans should be angry at the situation Pacquiao has been put into by his "team".
Why should people care about the situation he's gotten himself into? I don't know the guy, I just like to watch him fight. If he dies broke, doesn't affect me in any way.
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Any one with half a brain has an idea of what the problem could be here. Only those who are pro-Top Rank are in denial. Real Pac fans should be angry at the situation Pacquiao has been put into by his "team".
Alot will stay in denial like junior dong since they've been hoping and claiming Floyd will be broke in 5 years. But in reality PAC is. Damn shame though
Pac is ****ed. I love pac but he is clueless. How the **** you going to trust a guy like koncz with your money when you just met the guy not too long ago.
Koncz and Arum been ****ing him over and now it's all coming to light. Somehow I'm glad this is happening to wake pac up.
Any one with half a brain has an idea of what the problem could be here. Only those who are pro-Top Rank are in denial. Real Pac fans should be angry at the situation Pacquiao has been put into by his "team".
Did you happen to notice Floyd's numbers dip as well when he's fighting an unknown?
probably not.
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they dip to slightly below 1 mil,, floyd/ghost was considered a flop yet it did more than rios/manny and jmm/tim combined...
C'mon holla when floyd does sub 500k buys,, floyd hasnt seen those type numbers since the baldomir fight
like i said earlier, floyd-roman gonzalez would do 500k plus
Also the fact that Koncz was hiring different accountants every year says a lot as well...When all said and done I think there will be some criminal charges filed.
yeah, that is pretty shady as well.. I own a business and we use the same accountants every year because they know our vendors and accounts etc.. swapping them out every year is not smart, unless you dont want anyone to uncover your shady business
This just proves that manny is a complete idiot.. I love the dude as a fighter, but he is completely uneducated and has zero intelligence.
How can you have no bank statements,,, I can understand not having all the complicated stuff like tax paperwork, bout contracts, etc but a god damn bank statement is beyond stupid
Manny is clueless, and willing be fighting till he is in his 40s like duran..
Did anyone else catch the fact that the visionquest people bought konzc a house in orange county,, That seems really strange. Never heard of an accounting firm buying a manager's house..
Manny will be broke, bled dry from family, friends, and business associates..
If manny had any common sense he would have all his houses and cars he wanted plus about 100 million sitting in the bank like a good boy,, too bad he is an uneducated idiot
Also the fact that Koncz was hiring different accountants every year says a lot as well...When all said and done I think there will be some criminal charges filed.
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your post has nothing to do with mine. Rios, is an unknown.
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so. manny is a world wide star. he should have at least done what floyd/ghost did.
maybe he isn't such a big star.
Did you happen to notice Floyd's numbers dip as well when he's fighting an unknown?
probably not.
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your post has nothing to do with mine. Rios, is an unknown.
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so. manny is a world wide star. he should have at least done what floyd/ghost did.
maybe he isn't such a big star.