and that is being generous. Manny is actually only entitled to 15 % if you look at the revenue breakdown. He should get a flat 25 million or a minute percentage. 500,000 buys is proof positive that Manny's star power is on its downhill. He has fallen off a bit as a fighter, but who knew the public was done with him? Not me. They spent 30 million on the show, and whatever other overhead, for 500,000 buys?? Thats waterworld status. Thats an investment going belly up. Chris M. can make all the excuses he wants, its an indictment on Manny that his show performed that poorly. It was less expensive, and in his backyard. Manny is broke, tax problems, and Bob Arum have him in a bad place, arum knows it, which is why he wants Floyd now, he wants to cash out while its still possible. 500,000 buys??? Chavez Jr can do 500,000 buys. Manny might not even deserve the fight at this point. Top rank, Thomas Hauser, everyone can make all the excuses they want, they can blame floyd, they can whine he is ducking the fight, but all floyd has to do is point to 500,000 buys. For Floyd, Manny is just another fighter now. When is the last time Floyd did 500,000 buys? This fight can happen, but Manny will have to humble himself, and French kiss reality
Why do you people keep glorifying an undeserving duck?
He retired to avoid dangerous fights and then sneaked in
and out fighting once a year thus took less risks than the
average fighter and you're giving him this kind of reward?
If you ask me, this boring duck should not even deserve 30
against the real, exciting superstar of boxing.
But he won't fight Pacman, anyway. He's too scared. :D
:unitedsta
do you read boxing journalism? Thats a pretty uninformed post with all due respect
Why do you people keep glorifying an undeserving duck?
He retired to avoid dangerous fights and then sneaked in
and out fighting once a year thus took less risks than the
average fighter and you're giving him this kind of reward?
If you ask me, this boring duck should not even deserve 30
against the real, exciting superstar of boxing.
But he won't fight Pacman, anyway. He's too scared. :D
:unitedsta
Yes Rios vs Pacquiao flopped hard but lets not get Crazy
I think 60/40 is still REALISTIC!
HUGE flop, bad for boxing type of flop, Manny is supposed to be a mainstream star.
I don't agree with you. Pacquiao is not entitled to 50% but he does deserve between 30% and 40%. Pacquiao just made huge money for fighting a nobody like Rios. He is next biggest moneymaker in boxing after Mayweather. He is a bigger draw than Cotto and Cotto got much more than 20% in his fight with Floyd. No way in hell do Arum and Pacquiao go for anything like 20%. Paqcquiao does not need Floyd to make big money any more than Floyd needs Pacquiao so this fight will probably never happen.
I respectfully disagree, based on the vast expanse between the two fighters in terms of recent revenue, floyd will get the lion share, and rightfully so. and lets not hold floyd hostage because his opponents draw, the bottom line is the bottom line. Manny's numbers are not helping his position, and the fact that Floyd is such an enormous draw, and the fact that he pulled down 90 million last time out, hurts Manny to depths boxing fans are not grasping right now. What leverage does manny currently employ? Much less then he did 24 hours ago. These numbers wreck his position with an egomaniac like Mayweather
I have noticed that a small amount of people in this community would rather insult fellow posters as oppose to debate with them. Its lazy, its the easy way out
When you actually make sense let us know.
few years ago it should have been a 50/50 split, but those days are long gone..
Manny should just ask for that 40 mil flat fee, because he isnt getting anywhere near a 50/50 split now.
IMO a 70/30 or 65/35 would be reasonable, an 80/20 split is crazy if you manny because floyd is fresh out of any big name opponents, he already fought oscar, shane, cotto, canelo, jmm. Manny is the only big name left. Guys like khan, garcia, broner, ortiz 2, etc arent going to bring blockbuster ppv numbers and they will be lucky to do 1.2 mil with those guys.
Manny is the only dude left that floyd could fight that will bring 2 mil plus ppv buys. The talked about hopkins-floyd at 160 is about the only fight that would do 1.5 mil roughly like floyd vs shane, cotto did..
This fight will never get done because floyd wont do business with arum for whatever reason..
And if im manny, i wouldnt accept anything less than 30% because floyd has no other blockbuster options, so i would hold out,,,, but i highly doubt this fight ever gets made
Thats a heck of an argument. I was with you percentage wise before I heard about these new numbers, that changes the ball game, even more so then it was, as you point out.
Another floydiot alts dreaming as accountant. LMAO
I have noticed that a small amount of people in this community would rather insult fellow posters as oppose to debate with them. Its lazy, its the easy way out
and that is being generous. Manny is actually only entitled to 15 % if you look at the revenue breakdown. He should get a flat 25 million or a minute percentage. 500,000 buys is proof positive that Manny's star power is on its downhill. He has fallen off a bit as a fighter, but who knew the public was done with him? Not me. They spent 30 million on the show, and whatever other overhead, for 500,000 buys?? Thats waterworld status. Thats an investment going belly up. Chris M. can make all the excuses he wants, its an indictment on Manny that his show performed that poorly. It was less expensive, and in his backyard. Manny is broke, tax problems, and Bob Arum have him in a bad place, arum knows it, which is why he wants Floyd now, he wants to cash out while its still possible. 500,000 buys??? Chavez Jr can do 500,000 buys. Manny might not even deserve the fight at this point. Top rank, Thomas Hauser, everyone can make all the excuses they want, they can blame floyd, they can whine he is ducking the fight, but all floyd has to do is point to 500,000 buys. For Floyd, Manny is just another fighter now. When is the last time Floyd did 500,000 buys? This fight can happen, but Manny will have to humble himself, and French kiss reality
How the hell did you have the time to calculate and write this bulls*t up?
Miguel cotto is the 3rd biggest draw in boxing after may n pac.
His last 2 fights were not ppv. You talking about 2011 when he fought margarito? Ya well manny had a good ppv 2011 to even better than cotto. U make no sense. Wtf u smoking
Nope. He was but have you seen what canelo brings?
Miguel Cotto sells more than 500,000 buys though.. So bad correlation sir.
Miguel cotto is the 3rd biggest draw in boxing after may n pac.
His last 2 fights were not ppv. You talking about 2011 when he fought margarito? Ya well manny had a good ppv 2011 to even better than cotto. U make no sense. Wtf u smoking
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Floyd is only afraid of bad investments, Manny is no longer worth the drama. Literally
Flint are you ok?
its dios Dominicano.
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Forget this fight. Even if Pac gets nothing in this fight Floyd will never gamble his 0 and health against Pacquiao. He is so terrified even you just mention Pacs name.