Who wins hagler vs bhop prime vs prime mw

Smh. Hey man. That guy doesn't know boxing if he thinks Hopkins would beat Ray. Smh. Leonard is a top five ATG. What is Hopkins? A HOF'mer at best. Hopkins biggest wins came against blown up welters in Tito and Hoya. If he was so good, why were the Taylor fights so comepetitve? Pavlik was a drunk and under-sized, Tarver was drained after making the Rocky movie, his twenty consecutive defenses were against? And he would beat Leonard? Wow. He's over-rated. He hugs and survives inside the ring. His work rate sucks and he simply isn't that good. Hagler would beat him and is the greatest middleweight of all-times and Leonard would beat him up for 12 rounds.

Okay so now I'm wondering what on earth makes you think Hopkins would outbox him... Did I say that though??

Beginning with the Veto draw/ robbery in the 70's most since. Okay so now I'm wondering what on earth makes you think Hopkins would outbox him...

Which Hagler fights have you seen other than Leonard and Hearns? Beginning with the Veto draw/ robbery in the 70's most since. He's my favorite fighter of all times actually.

If the fight stayed on the outside Hopkins would beat Hagler. He has a cagey defense and is at his best at range. I didn't say i'd pick a winner for certain. I am certain that if Hagler didn't set up camp in Hopkins chest, he'd run a risk of losing. Which Hagler fights have you seen other than Leonard and Hearns?

They don't have the same reach, Haglers reach is 76 and that height difference wouldn't make a discernible difference, you don't need to be a rocket science to see that. Hagler was a better boxer from the outside and that's what's important, Hopkins isn't outboxing Hagler. If the fight stayed on the outside Hopkins would beat Hagler. He has a cagey defense and is at his best at range. I didn't say i'd pick a winner for certain. I am certain that if Hagler didn't set up camp in Hopkins chest, he'd run a risk of losing.

What does reach mean when your in close? Hagler giving some height away is to his benefit, it makes it easier to slip under and punch. Also Hagler in his prime had an excellant work rate he was capable of out hustling anyone he fought! He had the stronger resume and fought a variety of styles prior to getting to the top. Fighting Antuofermo alone is an experience in itself! Only Leonards athletizism got him by Hagler plus Marvin was not prime in that encounter neither was Leonard but Leonard in his prime gets KO'd by Hagler because Leonard was a 147lb welter and after running for 10 Hagler catches him betwenn 11 and 15! Ray

Hopkins is 6-1, Hagler was 5-10. They may have the same reach, but Hop still has the advantage of range punching down as opposed to Hagler punching up. They don't have the same reach, Haglers reach is 76 and that height difference wouldn't make a discernible difference, you don't need to be a rocket science to see that. Hagler was a better boxer from the outside and that's what's important, Hopkins isn't outboxing Hagler.

I dont think thats much of an issue Hagler had a massive reach for a middleweight 75" (exactly the same as Hopkins) and was bull like strong certainly a more powerful fighter than Hopkins. The fact that Leonard dealt with Hagler and Hearns who had an even bigger reach and was the same height and more power make me think Hopkins had nothing to trouble SRL and gets massively outworked. I wouldn't say SRL "dealt" with Hagler. Hagler had a lot to do with that himself starting the fight the way he did. Did he start slow and orthodox?? I'm not entirely sure without a refresher, but I knew he did something stupid. By the time he cranked up the pace, it was too close to secure victory.

No this just isn't true, Hagler was the rangier fighter and was mostly a methodical fighter too. He certainly had a better and more prolific jab than Hopkins. Well neither of those fights was prime Hagler and both are a bad representation of a typical Hagler, even so Hopkins never possessed the ability of Leonard to carry out that game plan really plus it wasn't like Leonard was too far ahead a lot of people thought Hagler deserved the decision. Hopkins is 6-1, Hagler was 5-10. They may have the same reach, but Hop still has the advantage of range punching down as opposed to Hagler punching up.

I think Hop has his way with SRL. You must take size into consideration. Hop is bigger than both. I dont think thats much of an issue Hagler had a massive reach for a middleweight 75" (exactly the same as Hopkins) and was bull like strong certainly a more powerful fighter than Hopkins. The fact that Leonard dealt with Hagler and Hearns who had an even bigger reach and was the same height and more power make me think Hopkins had nothing to trouble SRL and gets massively outworked.

On the fence with this 1. B-Hop is the taller rangier fighter. He's slightly more methodical and preffers to be in control of the fight. Hagler is shorter, more compact/powerful and fought southpaw. He's no problem going the distance and can easily force the fight. No this just isn't true, Hagler was the rangier fighter and was mostly a methodical fighter too. He certainly had a better and more prolific jab than Hopkins. If hagler starts fast and keeps pressing the fight, he can definitely force B-Hop out of his comfort zone and win. But if Hagler starts the fight playing around like he did with SRL, Hop will be to far ahead by the time he gets the ball rolling. In short, the Hagler that fought Hearns wins a ud. The one that played with SRL looses. Well neither of those fights was prime Hagler and both are a bad representation of a typical Hagler, even so Hopkins never possessed the ability of Leonard to carry out that game plan really plus it wasn't like Leonard was too far ahead a lot of people thought Hagler deserved the decision.

Prime Marvelous One in a ud or tko. Atg middleweight vs a very good middle here This sums it up nicely.

Hagler wins this for me, just so good in all departments and in his prime would have had a little too much for Hopkins in a very ugly fight. Except for RJJ, Hopkins never shared a ring with anyone on the same level as Hagler and would never have taken as much punishment as the relentless Hagler would dish out once he got going. Hopkins was and still is a great fighter but the likes of SRL, Hagler, Hearns, RJJ were another level above Hopkins. I think Hop has his way with SRL. You must take size into consideration. Hop is bigger than both.

Hagler wins this for me, just so good in all departments and in his prime would have had a little too much for Hopkins in a very ugly fight. Except for RJJ, Hopkins never shared a ring with anyone on the same level as Hagler and would never have taken as much punishment as the relentless Hagler would dish out once he got going. Hopkins was and still is a great fighter but the likes of SRL, Hagler, Hearns, RJJ were another level above Hopkins.

On the fence with this 1. B-Hop is the taller rangier fighter. He's slightly more methodical and preffers to be in control of the fight. Hagler is shorter, more compact/powerful and fought southpaw. He's no problem going the distance and can easily force the fight. If hagler starts fast and keeps pressing the fight, he can definitely force B-Hop out of his comfort zone and win. But if Hagler starts the fight playing around like he did with SRL, Hop will be to far ahead by the time he gets the ball rolling. In short, the Hagler that fought Hearns wins a ud. The one that played with SRL looses.

The fact that you don't know that Hagler had the tuffer ride to get to the top tier competitors should have told me to stop! I you don't understand that the men you mentioned were tuff tests for any middleweight coming up tells me you've only read about the "champs" and not the lower end of the top 15 that you must get by to accend. Hagler lost two of those encounters but redeemed himself with terrific wins in rematces. Done with you, you picked a name that has some history and knowledge with it but I can tell you for a fact that Mr. Lou Duva would not be thrilled with your "fake name" or alias. Fake sounds better in this instance! Good night and I'll avoid you. Ray. Top ten fighters are generally of greater note than those of the top fifteen, no? When people refer to top contenders, they're almost always refering to the top ten, not the top fifteen. Sorry I don't accept The Worm and the third best Sugar Ray as being "great fighters." And if you're going to act this pissy every single time someone takes a contrasting viewpoint to yours, you'd probably be best to avoid me.

Prime Marvelous One in a ud or tko. Atg middleweight vs a very good middle here

The fact that you don't know that Hagler had the tuffer ride to get to the top tier competitors should have told me to stop! I you don't understand that the men you mentioned were tuff tests for any middleweight coming up tells me you've only read about the "champs" and not the lower end of the top 15 that you must get by to accend. Hagler lost two of those encounters but redeemed himself with terrific wins in rematces. Done with you, you picked a name that has some history and knowledge with it but I can tell you for a fact that Mr. Lou Duva would not be thrilled with your "fake name" or alias. Fake sounds better in this instance! Good night and I'll avoid you. Ray.

I don't have to look at their records to know who they fought, I worked against both of them and handled fighters they fought! I know what matchmakers were used and how they were brought along, personally! Leonard doesn't show a group of opponents as good as Hagler fought its there in black and white and goes double for Hopkins! Are you actually a "Duva" and was part of the Duva family? If you are you should know better and if your not why aren't you using your real name? Hearns was not a fight when Leonard was coming up it was a title fight! Don't you read posts or are you one of those who just wants to make noise? Ray. I was talking about Hagler's win over Hearns, which you apparently discout as a "great win" in favour of the likes of Seales, Watts, Monroe and Colbert who were the furthest thing away from being great fighters. Only one of these fighters was actually ranked when Hagler beat them, and that was a highly dubious ranking that was later exposed with the Ring Magazine scandal. And no, I'm not a Duva. You might find this difficult to believe but few people on internet forums tend to use their actual real names. It's admirable that you do, but it's evidently not for everyone.