Why is it that Floyd's dad and uncle always have an excuse on why manny doesn't deserve a fight with floyd? And its always d same excuse manny needs to fight this guy and knock him out manny cant beat floyd manny is old manny just lost. And floyd comes out in interviews repeating their words. That just shows that they tell floyd who is safe to fight and who is not. yes? Or no?
You ever see that Nat-Geo show where two baboons are picking nits off one another?
I wonder how many of your 174 posts since October are on topic, and not mediocre wise cracks with no contribution?
All we know is what we have read concerning previous negotiations. I'm sure both sides are being dishonest to Boxing fans, trying to paint a poor picture of one another. I prefer to look at history, which fighter over his career has been more willing to take chances. Who has been more willing to fight top opponents and dare to be great? Who has the better resume? Based on that who would go more out of their way to avoid the other?
Good, let me bust a nut to that post real quick :wank:
Now, as for the 2nd bold, for the millionth time I made it clear I didn't want to engage in this specific conversation because it's gonna be senseless arguing back and forth where we're never gonna find common ground. I will say that it certainly ain't the 3rd bold.
Another nothing answer.
You didn't respond to any of the questions, once again.
Speaks absolute volumes.
I've already said ok Pac didn't agree in the set times Floyd wanted. Whatever.
I am not frigging talking about the time frames, what is so difficult for you to understand here?
The fact's are time aside, Pac has publicly said he'll go along with any testing, and will take the lesser purse. These were supposed critical requirements and stumbling blocks for the fight not getting made.
Why has Floyd barely even mentioned these being resolved NOW, meaning everyone can compromise and they just fight? It's still the biggest fight and those high hurdles have been compromised on.
WHY not do it since then or NOW?
Don't give me, oh Manny does needs to raise his stocks, Manny missed his chance BS.
Floyd didn't set so many hoops with other opponents whom were less deserving and highly regarded. So why with Manny, and why still not fight even when they are compromised on?
Good, let me bust a nut to that post real quick :wank:
Now, as for the 2nd bold, for the millionth time I made it clear I didn't want to engage in this specific conversation because it's gonna be senseless arguing back and forth where we're never gonna find common ground. I will say that it certainly ain't the 3rd bold.
I've already said ok Pac didn't agree in the set times Floyd wanted. Whatever.
I am not frigging talking about the time frames, what is so difficult for you to understand here?
The fact's are time aside, Pac has publicly said he'll go along with any testing, and will take the lesser purse. These were supposed critical requirements and stumbling blocks for the fight not getting made.
Why has Floyd barely even mentioned these being resolved NOW, meaning everyone can compromise and they just fight? It's still the biggest fight and those high hurdles have been compromised on.
WHY not do it since then or NOW?
Don't give me, oh Manny does needs to raise his stocks, Manny missed his chance BS.
Floyd didn't set so many hoops with other opponents whom were less deserving and highly regarded. So why with Manny, and why still not fight or even mention these breakthroughs to sign the fight?
Because he just doesn't want to fight dude.
They'll always be new requirements or excuses, most people know it accept fools like you following his never ending string of hoops, details, excuses.
Fights not happening cos of things on both sides. I accept the parts on Manny and Bob etc. You have your head in the sand with Floyd's BS verbals.
Because its no longer a negotiation its a dictation. Floyd/al have already seen the games before and this time they are not falling for the BS. they will give manny a take it or leave it offer because manny refused the fight in 09 and refused the $40 mil, no ppv offer.
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and yet , Floyd held Canelo to his word from 2 years ago. "but he said he would do a catch weight"
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Don't lie or stretch the truth. Canelo said 150 floyd made it 152. You could say he gave Canelo 2 more lbs than he asked for.
what lie?
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It's not because I'm suppose to believe that coincidentally you did it again?
"17 days was offered at one point, but this article clearly shows Manny just agreed to Floyd's 14 day offer at one point. Then Floyd changed his offer again to no cut-off"
You said Pacquiao just agreed to Floyd's 14 day offer, then Floyd said no cutoff.
Keyword: Then
That's false, extremely false, your timeline is off. Lets be realistic here, you had absolutely no knowledge as to what caused the offer to be off the table. Just give it up man, we're going in circles here......
I've already said ok Pac didn't agree in the set times Floyd wanted. Whatever.
I am not frigging talking about the time frames, what is so difficult for you to understand here?
The fact's are time aside, Pac has publicly said he'll go along with any testing, and will take the lesser purse. These were supposed critical requirements and stumbling blocks for the fight not getting made.
Why has Floyd barely even mentioned these being resolved NOW, meaning everyone can compromise and they just fight? It's still the biggest fight and those high hurdles have been compromised on.
WHY not do it since then or NOW?
Don't give me, oh Manny does needs to raise his stocks, Manny missed his chance BS.
Floyd didn't set so many hoops with other opponents whom were less deserving and highly regarded. So why with Manny, and why still not fight or even mention these breakthroughs to sign the fight?
Because he just doesn't want to fight dude.
They'll always be new requirements or excuses, most people know it except fools like you following his never ending string of hoops, details, excuses. This is the dude that said Manny your next at a press conference, then flat out denied ever having said that.
Fights not happening cos of things on both sides. I accept the parts on Manny and Bob etc. You have your head in the sand with Floyd's BS verbals.
Don't want to sound like I'm picking on Manny, I've come to the conclusion that a lot of our athletes are cheating, possibly Floyd, list goes on and on. Just wanted to make that clear......
I don't care when offers were 'off the table'. I didn't quote whether that was or wasn't the case in any of my posts. So to class my post as mis-information is dis-ingenious at best.
I focused on Floyd's specific requirements. I've accepted Pac didn't agree and compromise in the time frames Floyd may have set or wanted but the point still stands, Manny has publicly said he'd go along with 'the requirements' of fully random testing with no cut-off, and the lesser split.
The fact Floyd has barely mentioned these terms no longer being an issue, yet alone underlined it as hope and progress in making the fight as he'd want....is a critical point.
That is, regardless of all the jostling, the Mayweather's one way or another re-adjust old, or enter new - hoops for Manny to jump through. So the rest is elementary.
As I say, the latest in the long string of excuses and requirements, is Manny must KO Bradley. It undeniably persists.
It's not because I'm suppose to believe that coincidentally you did it again?
"17 days was offered at one point, but this article clearly shows Manny just agreed to Floyd's 14 day offer at one point. Then Floyd changed his offer again to no cut-off"
You said Pacquiao just agreed to Floyd's 14 day offer, then Floyd said no cutoff.
Keyword: Then
That's false, extremely false, your timeline is off. Lets be realistic here, you had absolutely no knowledge as to what caused the offer to be off the table. Just give it up man, we're going in circles here......
Canelo offered the fight at 150 before negotiations. Floyd called his bluff on fighters who said "Oh Ill come fight you at this weight I want the fight". He did want the fight but Canelo wasn't goin to 150...so he took 152.
Didn't Maravilla say hell drop to 150 or 154 to fight Floyd? Where's the talk about that? Could have sworn I read that somewhere.
floyd's father said 147. I dont pay any attention to what he says regarding floyds fights. Canelo said he would go to 150. there is a thread on NSB about it. Floyd made the fight 152, despite claims from his team that Canelo suggested it (even if they did we know why-because 152 is better than 150).
So tell coldcashcanelo or whatever his name is now.
That goes for Roger and Sr. I don't care what comes out of their mouths as far as the possibility of an opponent goes. This is why I said even if Roger said Pacquiao needed to stop Bradley (Which he didn't say) my response was WHO CARES.
That's not how it happened, the offer was off the table after Pacquiao walked away. Actions took place as to why it was no longer there. Either you were misinformed or wasn't specific, I say misinformed.
I don't care when offers were 'off the table'. I didn't quote whether that was or wasn't the case in any of my posts. So to class my post as mis-information is dis-ingenious at best.
I focused on Floyd's specific requirements. I've accepted Pac didn't agree and compromise in the time frames Floyd may have set or wanted but the point still stands, Manny has publicly said he'd go along with 'the requirements' of fully random testing with no cut-off, and the lesser split.
The fact Floyd has barely mentioned these terms no longer being an issue, yet alone underlined it as hope and progress in making the fight as he'd want....is a critical point.
That is, regardless of all the jostling, the Mayweather's one way or another re-adjust old, or enter new - hoops for Manny to jump through. So the rest is elementary.
As I say, the latest in the long string of excuses and requirements, is Manny must KO Bradley. It undeniably persists.
first of all i think it has more to do with whos ego is bigger. at the time pac was on top of his game was p4p #1. floyd accused him of being on peds then later demand ost. if i was on top i would tell floyd to kick rocks also. remember what floyd and his fans said right? take the test we got a fight, so why switch up as soon as pac agreed then??
floyd even went as far as making t shirts saying take the test, i believe a member on here even sent floyd a design. if its not about ost then its money if its not about money then its another thing. im not saying pac deserve the same as before but dont act like floyd is not throwing new demands everytime the other one is agreed upon.
Has nothing to do with that, none of that even matters, fear wasn't a factor as childish as some people can be. The money was there, the fact that almost every sport's athlete would talk about the possibility of it was immense, it's obvious why it didn't happen I'll leave it at that.
Didn't Floyd want the fight at 147 then 150 and Canelos camp agreed to 152? That seems to be the case unless you believe Floyd's side of the story, not sure how anyone could listen to anything a Mayweather says and take it as the gospel
floyd's father said 147. I dont pay any attention to what he says regarding floyds fights. Canelo said he would go to 150. there is a thread on NSB about it. Floyd made the fight 152, despite claims from his team that Canelo suggested it (even if they did we know why-because 152 is better than 150).
So tell coldcashcanelo or whatever his name is now.
Didn't Floyd want the fight at 147 then 150 and Canelos camp agreed to 152? That seems to be the case unless you believe Floyd's side of the story, not sure how anyone could listen to anything a Mayweather says and take it as the gospel
Canelo offered the fight at 150 before negotiations. Floyd called his bluff on fighters who said "Oh Ill come fight you at this weight I want the fight". He did want the fight but Canelo wasn't goin to 150...so he took 152.
Don't lie or stretch the truth. Canelo said 150 floyd made it 152. You could say he gave Canelo 2 more lbs than he asked for.
Didn't Floyd want the fight at 147 then 150 and Canelos camp agreed to 152? That seems to be the case unless you believe Floyd's side of the story, not sure how anyone could listen to anything a Mayweather says and take it as the gospel
So please confirm; the key mis-information of my post was quoting Manny agreeing to 17 days, when it was in-fact 14 days?
That's not how it happened, the offer was off the table after Pacquiao walked away. Actions took place as to why it was no longer there. Either you were misinformed or wasn't specific, I say misinformed.