i thought of triple ggg but hes kinda soft outside the ring
not sure about kovalev...maybe
is mattysee beat garcia then id say lucas
so who is right now?
EDIT: PROVO***OV IMO
It's not even the kicks that is the main disadvantage for the pure boxer. It's the grappling fatigue that would set in their arms and entire body.
A pure boxer wouldn't be able to grapple with a trained grappler for more than 30 seconds without being completely and utterly gassed, and having their arms filled up with blood. Thus, leaving their main weapon weaker.
As soon as they separated. The boxer's arms would feel like they have cement bricks tied to them, while the grappler would be conditioned for that.
This needs to stop.
KJ Noons KO'd DIAZ in MMA fight.
Shannon Briggs KO'd Tom Erickosn in MMA fight.
48 year old Ray Mercer KTFO'd 1 fight removed UFC HW Chimp,Tim Sylvia in MMA fight.
Tommy Morrison KO'd Stover in MMA fight.
Anderson Silva got KTFO'd in his first boxing match by Osmar Luis Texera in Brazil then quit boxing,because it "was too hard !"
Velasquez gets ass-stomped like he was in prison by almost all top 20 Cruiser/HW boxers.He has no punching skills & a glass jaw,period
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Cain Velasquez is the answer.
I don't like him either...I'm a Wladimir and Vitali fan,but Cain would take them down and beat their ass with elbows/punches or put them in a submission.
Cain is a bad mother****er.
Baddest dude on the planet...its not even close really.
Cian Velasquez is a joke. Vlad would KO him with a jab. He got KO'd by a wind-up punch from a bum. Vlad would destroy him. He is a midget. Remember both KO Bros have extensive kickboxing training too. Vitali was even world champ.:boxing::boxing::boxing:
Vitali Klitscho without a doubt.
Lmao!! He fought Manuel Charr in his last fight and was photographed with other women likely disappointing his children deeply. Hardly the baddest man. Maybe the baddest husband though! :rofl:
im not an mma fan boy im just stating the truth. Cain can box with the best and if the fight went to the ground he would obviously dominate not to mention has better cardio than most heavyweights in boxing today
Grappling cardio, which would be kryptonite for any pure stand up fighter.
me too, but before a boxer gets close enough he's gotta dodge kicks, and Jon Jones has length, plus he can SNAP your sh*t. And yes most fights end up in a hugging match, im gonna take the one with the advantage, plus when he snaps your sh*t there is no towel to throw in you gotta keep going with that.
Im not trying to get into no MMA/Boxing pissing contest, but im a realist. James Toney is an excellent pugilist but he couldnt keep Coture off of him.
PS
GGG? he hasnt even faced an elite boxer and his next opponent is a nobody. lol
It's not even the kicks that is the main disadvantage for the pure boxer. It's the grappling fatigue that would set in their arms and entire body.
A pure boxer wouldn't be able to grapple with a trained grappler for more than 30 seconds without being completely and utterly gassed, and having their arms filled up with blood. Thus, leaving their main weapon weaker.
As soon as they separated. The boxer's arms would feel like they have cement bricks tied to them, while the grappler would be conditioned for that.
smh at mma fanboys calling mma fighters like Cain valesquez and Jon Jones. Lol in a street fight an mma fighter is nothing. Ever wonder why 99 % of stories of mma fighters in a street fighter involve only punching. There is zero ground game in the streets, no one and their entourage/buddies/gang would stand there and watch a guy try to chock someone.
I strongly believe the best boxers from welter weight to heavy weight would KO Jon Jones. I am not so sure about Cain Valesquez doe cuz i havent seen him fight yet.
However a boxing God like Gennady Golovkin/Quillin/Sergio Martinez/ Canelo who are elite Middle weights would KO 'ANY' mma fighter including Cain Velesquez.
Lets not even bring in elite boxers from higher weight classes like Froch, Ward, Stevenson, Afolabi, Huck, dennis Lebedev etc. Or monsters like Wlad, Vit, Haye.
This is not a UFC fight were all the rules are made up to favour a wrestler/Brazilian Ju Jitsu guy. Remember, mayorga won his first mma fight by brutal Knee KO to the spine of an mma fighter who took him down. Mayorga was subsequently disqualified for using an illegal move lol
In a street fight, there are no gloves and this means that you will literally not see an elite Pro boxers fists cut through the air.
Trying to go to the ground is the worst mistake you could make in a street fight and mma guys know it. So many things could go wrong, you could crash into something hard enough to crack your head like pavement or a brick/wooden wall. Even worse you could be stomped to death 'Don King' style.
Only other combat sport that could give an elite pro boxer a bit of trouble is mua thai but in the street there are no rules so you could easily pick him up by his leg and KO him.
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im not an mma fan boy im just stating the truth. Cain can box with the best and if the fight went to the ground he would obviously dominate not to mention has better cardio than most heavyweights in boxing today
smh at mma fanboys calling mma fighters like Cain valesquez and Jon Jones. Lol in a street fight an mma fighter is nothing. Ever wonder why 99 % of stories of mma fighters in a street fighter involve only punching. There is zero ground game in the streets, no one and their entourage/buddies/gang would stand there and watch a guy try to chock someone.
I strongly believe the best boxers from welter weight to heavy weight would KO Jon Jones. I am not so sure about Cain Valesquez doe cuz i havent seen him fight yet.
However a boxing God like Gennady Golovkin/Quillin/Sergio Martinez/ Canelo who are elite Middle weights would KO 'ANY' mma fighter including Cain Velesquez.
Lets not even bring in elite boxers from higher weight classes like Froch, Ward, Stevenson, Afolabi, Huck, dennis Lebedev etc. Or monsters like Wlad, Vit, Haye.
This is not a UFC fight were all the rules are made up to favour a wrestler/Brazilian Ju Jitsu guy. Remember, mayorga won his first mma fight by brutal Knee KO to the spine of an mma fighter who took him down. Mayorga was subsequently disqualified for using an illegal move lol
In a street fight, there are no gloves and this means that you will literally not see an elite Pro boxers fists cut through the air.
Trying to go to the ground is the worst mistake you could make in a street fight and mma guys know it. So many things could go wrong, you could crash into something hard enough to crack your head like pavement or a brick/wooden wall. Even worse you could be stomped to death 'Don King' style.
Only other combat sport that could give an elite pro boxer a bit of trouble is mua thai but in the street there are no rules so you could easily pick him up by his leg and KO him.
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I'm pro boxing and pro MMA, but :rofl:.
Cain Velasquez is the answer.
I don't like him either...I'm a Wladimir and Vitali fan,but Cain would take them down and beat their ass with elbows/punches or put them in a submission.
Cain is a bad mother****er.
Baddest dude on the planet...its not even close really.
smh at mma fanboys calling mma fighters like Cain valesquez and Jon Jones. Lol in a street fight an mma fighter is nothing. Ever wonder why 99 % of stories of mma fighters in a street fighter involve only punching. There is zero ground game in the streets, no one and their entourage/buddies/gang would stand there and watch a guy try to chock someone.
I strongly believe the best boxers from welter weight to heavy weight would KO Jon Jones. I am not so sure about Cain Valesquez doe cuz i havent seen him fight yet.
However a boxing God like Gennady Golovkin/Quillin/Sergio Martinez/ Canelo who are elite Middle weights would KO 'ANY' mma fighter including Cain Velesquez.
Lets not even bring in elite boxers from higher weight classes like Froch, Ward, Stevenson, Afolabi, Huck, dennis Lebedev etc. Or monsters like Wlad, Vit, Haye.
This is not a UFC fight were all the rules are made up to favour a wrestler/Brazilian Ju Jitsu guy. Remember, mayorga won his first mma fight by brutal Knee KO to the spine of an mma fighter who took him down. Mayorga was subsequently disqualified for using an illegal move lol
In a street fight, there are no gloves and this means that you will literally not see an elite Pro boxers fists cut through the air.
Trying to go to the ground is the worst mistake you could make in a street fight and mma guys know it. So many things could go wrong, you could crash into something hard enough to crack your head like pavement or a brick/wooden wall. Even worse you could be stomped to death 'Don King' style.
Only other combat sport that could give an elite pro boxer a bit of trouble is mua thai but in the street there are no rules so you could easily pick him up by his leg and KO him.
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p4p it's golovkin. i don't think anybody comes close. that guy is palpably vicious.
life isn't lived in p4p terms, though.
it's wladimir if you're talking about the boxer who can beat every other man. being tough is less valuable than being 6'6", 250, and a world class boxer who can use his height.
wladimir looked to be showing his age against povetkin, and it got me thinking. when he retires, the division is going to be completely void of greatness. i'm not sure if that's ever happened before.
He will rise again..
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A heavyweight should always be the baddest man on the planet.
Much as I want to say Vitali, he's old and pretty much retired.
Much as I want to say Wlad, he cheats and fights like a b*tch.
There's no one who deserves to be called the baddest man on the planet right now.
sadly bojangles is right. there is no one who fits that bill right now.
Jon Jones and yes I would go with a heavyweight, remember alot of the boxers are very small men and once you grab one of those little bastards its over. Jon Jones has size could easily fight a heavyweight...........NEVERMIND
THE BIG SHOW
ITS DEFINITELY NOT SOME LITTLE BOXER IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HAND TO HAND COMBAT!:spank:
He lost to Gustafsson though
a heavyweight should always be the baddest man on the planet.
Much as i want to say vitali, he's old and pretty much retired.
Much as i want to say wlad, he cheats and fights like a b*tch.
There's no one who deserves to be called the baddest man on the planet right now.
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