Bob arum is afraid to match his fighter with golden boy fighters

He also called manjuice out, what ywas their reply to that? Martinez later admitted that Manny would probably if he were not so small. That is why he pressed for Floyd. Must I remind you that Manny has stated that he would go back down for good after the Margarito fight (tried 150 once) and not attempt at 154. Floyd, on the other hand, has been fighting MORE at 154 than many of his opponents that he faced at WW. So there should be no excuse there! So it PROVES that he picks and choses ....

Martinez is not a Top Rank fighter...he also wanted to fight Manny and at a catchweight and we heard...crickets I know that Martinez is NOT a Top Rank fighter. If you re-read my post, you may catch the "joke" ..... man, I even state in that post that Martinez is NOT a TR fighter ..... BUT Martinez did fight a TR fighter but heard crickets from Floyd, who has been working hand in hand with GB. Martinez later admitted that Manny would probably if he were not so small. That is why he pressed for Floyd. Must I remind you that Manny has stated that he would go back down for good after the Margarito fight (tried 150 once) and not attempt at 154. Floyd, on the other hand, has been fighting MORE at 154 than many of his opponents that he faced at WW. So there should be no excuse there! So it PROVES that he picks and choses ....

like they say business is business so why isn't Bob arum and golden boy working together to make the best fights that people will sure pay for? I truly think Bob is afraid most of his fighters will lose and why risk when bob can match his fighters with fighters he knows have a disadvantage and so he has control of who wins and who looses. Not so much of fear but more about greed to keep as much of the money from the bouts as he can

I'd seriously jump for joy if GB-TR kissed and made up. So many great matchups to be made in boxing.... and what better way to make boxing a mainstream sport again than to MAKE those big fights. but no. arum and schaefer are like two former best friends on the playground pouting and sitting in the corner avoiding each other.

1. Floyd Mayweather is a fighter in GoldenBoy's stable 2. The only reason him and other fighters under Al Haymon get such high purses is because of the money GBP save using his lucrative connections to the networks & arenas. 3. Arum is a leech but his fighters see way less tomato cans & establishes better résumés for the most part.

gbp does treat its fighters better. they paid Robert guerrero 1 million dollars for the berto fight. they paid danny Garcia 1.5 million for the matthysse fight. they paid malignaggi 1 million dollars for the broner fight. top rank would never hand out those type of paydays too those fighters. and lara being a tough sell is a fact. and bob arum said the same thing about rigodeaux being a tough sell, so whats your point? Rios got 4mil for PAC. Ortiz and ghost got way less than that to fight Floyd. TR pays mannys opponents way more than Floyd's opponents get.

Big pac fan here but i know it was painful to see your boy get schooled like that lol Not really a fan at all to be honest.

The last 5 GBP vs TR fights were: Hopkins-Pavlik Mosley-Margarito De La Hoya-Pacquiao Gamboa-Ponce De Leon Lara-Martirosyan Except for De La Hoya-Pacquiao (where TR had everything to gain) and Lara-Martirosyan (a final WBC eliminator for Canelo), the fights featured TR having the heavy betting favorite against GBP's underdog taking place on Top Rank cards because they refuse to co-promote. Top Rank preferred to have Donaire fight a phenom in Rigondeaux for around $1-1.5M instead of having him fight on a GBP card against Mares (where Nonito would've been the betting favorite) for $3M. It's been clear to me that Bob Arum wants nothing to do with GBP without there being heavy incentive. U forgot manny pacs vs Ricky hatton and all those except Gambia-ponce and Lara-vanes were co promotions

Martinez is not a Top Rank fighter...he also wanted to fight Manny and at a catchweight and we heard...crickets Canelo wanted to fight Floyd at the jr middleweight division, and all we got was a catchweight. "and still undefeated......SAAAAUUULLL CCAAANNNEELLLLOOOO ALLLLLLLLVVARREEZZZ"

http://www.goldenboypromotions.com/fighters/ scroll down and look between Matthysse and Mitchell. :rofl: :rofl:

Going by these post it seems people dont even know who fights for whom Floyd-not a goldenboy fighter Martinez,GGG,Murray=not Top rank fighters http://www.goldenboypromotions.com/fighters/ scroll down and look between Matthysse and Mitchell.

Arum ain't in the business of helping other promoters out especially not his main competition. If he can use them he will, if it is not advantageous to him he won't. Not like GBP is trying to put over Top Rank guys either, that is one of the main issues between the sides neither wants to let the other get over. It would be nice if they could work something out but that really isn't being real because the way boxing works.

they work with mayweather promotions for what its worth lmfao mayweather promotions

When floyd fights without a GBP banner,, then you can say that,, He has done it since 07 and hasnt used any other promoters like shaw, duva, dibella, etc shaw,duva,dibella don't have any welterweights for Floyd too fight

Why would you be willing to believe that crap coming from Schaefer when Mare's, who is far more exciting than Rigondeux, highest earning so far was a mere $300K when he fought Ponce for the May/Alvarez undercards. This crap about GBP treating their fighters better than TR's is a mere myth. Schaefer just threw Lara under the bus recently when he said he's difficult to sell. He criticized Rigo and Gamboa as well for being unexciting to watch. You could easily tell that these Cubans will not do well with GBP. Schaefer is an amateur in the business pretending to be a pro. gbp does treat its fighters better. they paid Robert guerrero 1 million dollars for the berto fight. they paid danny Garcia 1.5 million for the matthysse fight. they paid malignaggi 1 million dollars for the broner fight. top rank would never hand out those type of paydays too those fighters. and lara being a tough sell is a fact. and bob arum said the same thing about rigodeaux being a tough sell, so whats your point?

Why would you be willing to believe that crap coming from Schaefer when Mare's, who is far more exciting than Rigondeux, highest earning so far was a mere $300K when he fought Ponce for the May/Alvarez undercards. This crap about GBP treating their fighters better than TR's is a mere myth. Schaefer just threw Lara under the bus recently when he said he's difficult to sell. He criticized Rigo and Gamboa as well for being unexciting to watch. You could easily tell that these Cubans will not do well with GBP. Schaefer is an amateur in the business pretending to be a pro. Didn't arum make statements like that regarding rigo, going on to say that hbo throws up every time he mentions rigo?

Last I remember TR works with other promoters. When was the last time GBP has? They work with goosen when Mitchell fought arreola and when maidan fought with josesito Lopez, idk who trouts promoter is but it's one of the small one. GNP works with goosen dibella, shaw and other smaller promoters like Thompson, warrior and banner all the time

Top Rank preferred to have Donaire fight a phenom in Rigondeaux for around $1-1.5M instead of having him fight on a GBP card against Mares (where Nonito would've been the betting favorite) for $3M. It's been clear to me that Bob Arum wants nothing to do with GBP without there being heavy incentive. Why would you be willing to believe that crap coming from Schaefer when Mare's, who is far more exciting than Rigondeux, highest earning so far was a mere $300K when he fought Ponce for the May/Alvarez undercards. This crap about GBP treating their fighters better than TR's is a mere myth. Schaefer just threw Lara under the bus recently when he said he's difficult to sell. He criticized Rigo and Gamboa as well for being unexciting to watch. You could easily tell that these Cubans will not do well with GBP. Schaefer is an amateur in the business pretending to be a pro.

Never understood the beef between Floyd & Oscar when he's basically Floyd's promoter; would think they'd be tight considering the circumstances.

http://i.lv3.hbo.com/assets/images/sports/boxing/fights/2008-12-06-delahoya-vs-pacquiao/fight-recap-1024.jpg truly terrified. What is TR's Superfeather champ punishing GB's Middlweight champ?