Vitali Klitschko stops protestors from rioting. (Video)

They were so quick to denigrate the WBA belt when Haye held it. Klitlickers are beyond a joke on this forum. Lol I know, but I'm the one with an agenda! :rofl:

Suzy, how am I twisting facts? Is it not a FACT we only live on one world? Therefore can't there be only ONE world champion? Wouldn't or shouldn't the rest of the ABC garbage be considered regional titles? And if its ok in your mind to have 4 major titles why not 6, 8 or 10? Tell me fella's, is boxing better off with these splintered, paper titles than it is with one champion (Wlad)? They were so quick to denigrate the WBA belt when Haye held it. Klitlickers are beyond a joke on this forum.

The World Boxing Council or WBC is one of four major organizations recognized by the IBHOF which sanction world championship boxing bouts, alongside the IBF, WBA and WBO. Don't act stupid and twist facts only because it suits your agenda. Here are the facts.....Besides the WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO we also have the WBF (world boxing federation), IBU, IBO, IBA, GBU, NBA, PBF and WBF (world boxing foundation). You seem to think there is and should be more than one world champion, especially if the IBHOF is on board. Lets remember, this is a hall of fame, not a boxing deity. They let Barry McGuigan in for crying out loud! What happens though when they let the IBO in and than the IBU? You think it may never happen but 25 years ago nobody was thinking some of us would be calling a WBO titlist a true world champion based on that merit alone. Bottom line is by accepting more than one world champion per division you're accepting the watering down of boxing. So you see, the only agenda here is by those who want to be able to call Vits a champion even though the world can only have one. Wlad established this through lineage and resume.

The WBC is one of the major four. Davis Haye in your opinion must be one of the greatest heavyweight champions ever since he held the WBA title, the original. And thats funny because I've seen you post many times Haye was not a real champion. Lol, talk about agendas!

This ^^^^ It's also the most respected and the one that stems directly from Ali, Holmes, Tyson, Douglas, Holyfield, Lewis and then to Vitali. It may be a paper title to some as there are 4 , plus the Ring title, but by these same bozos standards, there has almost never been a single world champ since the 4 sanctioning bodies were initiated because almost nobody has held all 4 titles at once. To think that way is just plain and simple ignorance. This is exactly why you shouldn't buy into the theory an ABC strap makes someone a champion. It doesn't. Following a lineage and beating the best is what makes a world champion. Unless of course you have an agenda to fulfill. To think any other way is just plain and simple ignorance.

The WBC is one of the major four. The World Boxing Council or WBC is one of four major organizations recognized by the IBHOF which sanction world championship boxing bouts, alongside the IBF, WBA and WBO. Don't act stupid and twist facts only because it suits your agenda. Suzy, how am I twisting facts? Is it not a FACT we only live on one world? Therefore can't there be only ONE world champion? Wouldn't or shouldn't the rest of the ABC garbage be considered regional titles? And if its ok in your mind to have 4 major titles why not 6, 8 or 10? Tell me fella's, is boxing better off with these splintered, paper titles than it is with one champion (Wlad)?

I'll chime in on whether Vitali is a legitimate champion. While Wlad is of course the recognized #1, we can't ignore the fact that the WBC is recognized as one of the major championship belts.

Free healthy care, social housing, JSA, living off the state, taking jobs via low wages, increasing class room sizes etc.. The influx of Eastern Europeans to the UK has been uncontrolled due to our open boarder policy, which we were forced to sign up to We have many people coming in and using and abusing incentives which were designed to help British people in times of need. As well as being a huge burden on social housing, there is also a burden on schools and the NHS. We are a small island and we weren't designed to house and give jobs to all new comers. We simply don't have the infrastructures to cope with this influx of benefit abusers from foreign lands, as well many who are working for low wages in the job market, when our own are struggling to get houses and find jobs. Mass immigration might work for the US, but for a small country such as ourselves, it simply cant go on like this anymore. We need to have full control over our boarders, thus we need to get out of this EU experiment. This has nothing to do with race or nationality, we are a multi cultured society, however there is a limit to what we can house and throwing insults are me like a violent thug protestor because you are unable to debate says a lot about you. I understand your concerns, but blaming it on ordinary people who are just trying to create a better future for themselves is quite wrong. You talk about eastern European people as if they're subhumans invading your 'noble country'.

What is it they take take take? Free healthy care, social housing, JSA, living off the state, taking jobs via low wages, increasing class room sizes etc.. The influx of Eastern Europeans to the UK has been uncontrolled due to our open boarder policy, which we were forced to sign up to We have many people coming in and using and abusing incentives which were designed to help British people in times of need. As well as being a huge burden on social housing, there is also a burden on schools and the NHS. We are a small island and we weren't designed to house and give jobs to all new comers. We simply don't have the infrastructures to cope with this influx of benefit abusers from foreign lands, as well many who are working for low wages in the job market, when our own are struggling to get houses and find jobs. Mass immigration might work for the US, but for a small country such as ourselves, it simply cant go on like this anymore. We need to have full control over our boarders, thus we need to get out of this EU experiment. This has nothing to do with race or nationality, we are a multi cultured society, however there is a limit to what we can house and throwing insults are me like a violent thug protestor because you are unable to debate says a lot about you.

That's because you've been brainwashed by this ultra-nationalist propaganda. You know who takes-takes-takes? The big corporations and banks of your country, and they want developing countries to join the EU because it benefits them. More cheap labor and natural resources to exploit. Yeah it's those developing countries that are responsible for the economic crisis, it's definitely not the big banks from wealthy countries. :pat: Those same banks that your government bailed out using your tax money. But keep blaming "the foreigners" like the good little drone that you are. Expanding big business? Yes. Eroding the rights of the population? Have you looked at human rights abuses in Russia and Ukraine? Riot police beating people up (including journalists) like they stole something, people getting imprisoned for political reasons on a regular basis, etc. Frankie Bruno is really an ignorant moron. He should just stay the hell out of threads like these.

The WBC is one of the major four. This ^^^^ It's also the most respected and the one that stems directly from Ali, Holmes, Tyson, Douglas, Holyfield, Lewis and then to Vitali. It may be a paper title to some as there are 4 , plus the Ring title, but by these same bozos standards, there has almost never been a single world champ since the 4 sanctioning bodies were initiated because almost nobody has held all 4 titles at once. To think that way is just plain and simple ignorance.

Question: If the WBC counts and you truly consider Vits the world champion does that mean The WAA, WBF and many other titles are world championships too? You cant have it both eays. If Vits is the champ than there are many others. This is why i am adamant only Wlad is the champion. Yes this question is directed at you Boxing GOAT. I've already explained numerous times why Vitali is the champ. Go look it up. I don't have time for people who choose to ignore previous points I've made. If you don't like that, tough sh*t.

Huge props to the person who carried a 250-pound man on his shoulders.

The post under your name says it best "I'm a retard" stick to crayons moron, you aren't literate or educated enough to discuss politics with grown men. Anyone who uses "Wlad is marrying a U.S. Actress" as a political argument is a juvenile retard who doesn't belong in a grown up discussion It's says that because I ruffled the feathers of some moron on here who can change that crap like I care. Meanwhile, your rating is irreversibly RED. HA HA HA, I PITY YOU. YOU ARE TOO IGNORANT TO KNOW YOU ARE A FLAMING IDIOT. CONGRATS. IGNORED.

You used Haydn Panatierre as a political argument for western democracy. Seriously please go kill yourself :rofl: ALL your further arguments are immediately invalidated and discredited after that laughable attempt. You are a joke. :lol1: You have a huge bar of red under your name and I'm a joke. Keep dreaming you brain washed dipsh*t.

Have to say I'm with you on this one. On the ground you've actually got politiacal figures from Poland and western Europe actively supporting what is rapidily becoming a major destabilisation of a legitimate democracy. Furthermore there are suggestions of organisation and funding for the activists/rioters or whatever being provided from the west. Western European ambitions have long been both to get their hands on the markets and natural resources of Ukraine and European Russia and limiting the power of the Russian Empire/ Soviet Union/ Russia. Having seen first hand some of the consequences on Greece (I'm half Greek btw) I wouldn't recommend any country joining the EU, which is at heart and beyond the sharing and co-operative image simply a vehicle for expanding the power of Banks and Big-business whilst eroding the rights and security of the national populations. Vitali may be genuine in his beliefs, but ultimately this is the EUs agenda he is pushing - it would seem very strange to me given that the EU can be seen to be failing in so many areas that any Country could see benefit in signing away it's economic sovereignty and control. I can see how the EU benefits, but Ukraine has little the EU wants beyond it's natural resources and markets to sell back the goods made with them. Correct. Exact same thing as the color "revolutions" using NGO's like Freddom House or National Endowment for Democracy as shell financiers for the C.I.A to funnel in money for political destabilazation. Funding and organizing protesters while their corporate owned media vomits propaganda.

Question: If the WBC counts and you truly consider Vits the world champion does that mean The WAA, WBF and many other titles are world championships too? You cant have it both eays. If Vits is the champ than there are many others. This is why i am adamant only Wlad is the champion. Yes this question is directed at you Boxing GOAT. The World Boxing Council or WBC is one of four major organizations recognized by the IBHOF which sanction world championship boxing bouts, alongside the IBF, WBA and WBO. Don't act stupid and twist facts only because it suits your agenda.

Question: If the WBC counts and you truly consider Vits the world champion does that mean The WAA, WBF and many other titles are world championships too? You cant have it both eays. If Vits is the champ than there are many others. This is why i am adamant only Wlad is the champion. Yes this question is directed at you Boxing GOAT. The WBC is one of the major four.

We here in the UK are fed up of the EU, and most likely want out because of 3rd world countries joining Ukraine obviously want to be part of EU as it benefits them, but this is the reason why GB should leave Europe, these 3rd world eastern Europe countries bring us nothing, they do is take take take That's because you've been brainwashed by this ultra-nationalist propaganda. You know who takes-takes-takes? The big corporations and banks of your country, and they want developing countries to join the EU because it benefits them. More cheap labor and natural resources to exploit. What contradiction? The EU experiment has been a huge failure because they started letting in countries with weak economies, these economies collapsed and then the wealthy ones are forced to bail them out only for them to fail again Yeah it's those developing countries that are responsible for the economic crisis, it's definitely not the big banks from wealthy countries. :pat: Those same banks that your government bailed out using your tax money. But keep blaming "the foreigners" like the good little drone that you are. Having seen first hand some of the consequences on Greece (I'm half Greek btw) I wouldn't recommend any country joining the EU, which is at heart and beyond the sharing and co-operative image simply a vehicle for expanding the power of Banks and Big-business whilst eroding the rights and security of the national populations. Expanding big business? Yes. Eroding the rights of the population? Have you looked at human rights abuses in Russia and Ukraine? Riot police beating people up (including journalists) like they stole something, people getting imprisoned for political reasons on a regular basis, etc.

Question: If the WBC counts and you truly consider Vits the world champion does that mean The WAA, WBF and many other titles are world championships too? You cant have it both eays. If Vits is the champ than there are many others. This is why i am adamant only Wlad is the champion. Yes this question is directed at you Boxing GOAT.