tbh I haven't seen the fight since I saw it live.
It might be true, don't remember what happened. But obviously if that happened, it's not good.
It was close enough to the bell that he may have been jumping in to stop any after the round punching, but typically when a ref jumps in waving his arms and wrapping a guy in a hug, that's him stopping the fight. And of course if you have to carry a fighter back to the corner, you should probably stop it.
Groves II, winner fights DeGale is my preference.
Wouldn't necessarily have a problem with it, but I think Groves-DeGale needs to happen when both are much more established in the division, i.e. both champions or something like that. If Froch wins, then him vs Degale would be a good fight.
Why not? Both would be potential FOTY candidates, what's not to like?
Well, Chavez jr is just overrated that's why I don't like that fight. He's never fought at SMW and let's be honest, hasn't really impressed at MW and lost his last fight against Vera.
GGG vs Froch would have been a good fight after the Kessler fight. I don't like it because I think Froch would lose. He took too much punishment in the Groves fight to go in there with GGG imo. That's just me being honest.
Agreed.
At this stage, I would like to see the rematch with Groves first of all. If that doesn't happen a second fight I'd like to see Froch in would be the 3rd Kessler fight. After which I'd expect both to retire.
I don't really fancy a GGG fight or a Chaves jr fight especially much.
Groves II, winner fights DeGale is my preference.
Some are bothered enough to accuse Ward of ducking, which is beyond laughable.
I don't think the issue with Ward is ducking Froch, as much as avoiding fighting overseas whether it be UK, Denmark or Germany.
Agreed.
At this stage, I would like to see the rematch with Groves first of all. If that doesn't happen a second fight I'd like to see Froch in would be the 3rd Kessler fight. After which I'd expect both to retire.
I don't really fancy a GGG fight or a Chaves jr fight especially much.
Why not? Both would be potential FOTY candidates, what's not to like?
I don't think anyone's too bothered about Ward coming over anyway, there are far more entertaining fights out there for UK Super-Middleweights.
Agreed.
At this stage, I would like to see the rematch with Groves first of all. If that doesn't happen a second fight I'd like to see Froch in would be the 3rd Kessler fight. After which I'd expect both to retire.
I don't really fancy a GGG fight or a Chaves jr fight especially much.
I don't think anyone's too bothered about Ward coming over anyway, there are far more entertaining fights out there for UK Super-Middleweights.
Some are bothered enough to accuse Ward of ducking, which is beyond laughable.
:lol1: Seriously? So O'Connor waving the fight off and then chaning his mind after hearing the bell and carrying semiconscious Cleverly to his corner in round 3 was completely normal?
tbh I haven't seen the fight since I saw it live.
It might be true, don't remember what happened. But obviously if that happened, it's not good.
And that's not cool. Especially because it was such a blatant rabbit punch. But he threw the fight before then. Turned his back in the middle of an exchange is asking to be counted out. And he didn't complain which pretty much tells you everything. And it was surprising as he put up a good fight in the first couple of rounds.
I can see the point, but an international referee would have been assigned for that fight anyway, neutral judging etc, so I can't see it as an issue. Ward's team are very smart people and would have sorted everything out before the fight happened.
I don't think anyone's too bothered about Ward coming over anyway, there are far more entertaining fights out there for UK Super-Middleweights.
No, I honestly can't see a pattern. Are you saying Kovalev-Cleverly was an early stoppage? or a late stoppage?
Because if you really want to go down that route, we can easily pull up fights where British fighters have been given the wrong end of the stick.
it's not about that. Pala turned his back before Chisora threw a rabbit punch. A guy turns his back like that in the ring, he's asking for trouble.
:lol1: Seriously? So O'Connor waving the fight off and then chaning his mind after hearing the bell and carrying semiconscious Cleverly to his corner in round 3 was completely normal?
But Chisora hit him with a clear blatant blow to the back of the head. Back turned or not, he shouldn't have punched at the back of his head. He adjust the next one around to the jaw, but the ref didn't even warn Chisora for it.
Del Boy was going to get him sooner or later anyway, I just don't like when people say Ward must fight Froch in the UK, it's only fair. If he lost on a BS stoppage like one of these 2, that would be a massive travesty to the sport.
And that's not cool. Especially because it was such a blatant rabbit punch. But he threw the fight before then. Turned his back in the middle of an exchange is asking to be counted out. And he didn't complain which pretty much tells you everything. And it was surprising as he put up a good fight in the first couple of rounds.
I can see the point, but an international referee would have been assigned for that fight anyway, neutral judging etc, so I can't see it as an issue. Ward's team are very smart people and would have sorted everything out before the fight happened.
I thought Pala essentially quit there.
The ref has to stop the fight really if a guy is not intelligently defending himself - chilling out on the ring post with your arms at 6 o'clock is not defending yourself.
lol it's not about comparing for f sake...
Cleverly - Kovalev, Chisora - Scott, Froch - Groves and now Chisora - Pala. Can you see the pattern?
You're right, to be honest I'm surprised why ref didn't add Chisora 3 points for reminding Pala that it's illegal by throwing legal punches on the back of Pala's head.
No, I honestly can't see a pattern. Are you saying Kovalev-Cleverly was an early stoppage? or a late stoppage?
Because if you really want to go down that route, we can easily pull up fights where British fighters have been given the wrong end of the stick.
it's not about that. Pala turned his back before Chisora threw a rabbit punch. A guy turns his back like that in the ring, he's asking for trouble.
Imo you can't compare the two stoppages.
He stood with his back turned to the ring looking down. He didn't want it anymore. Groves was dodging and fighting back.
But Chisora hit him with a clear blatant blow to the back of the head. Back turned or not, he shouldn't have punched at the back of his head. He adjust the next one around to the jaw, but the ref didn't even warn Chisora for it.
Del Boy was going to get him sooner or later anyway, I just don't like when people say Ward must fight Froch in the UK, it's only fair. If he lost on a BS stoppage like one of these 2, that would be a massive travesty to the sport.
Imo you can't compare the two stoppages.
He stood with his back turned to the ring looking down. He didn't want it anymore. Groves was dodging and fighting back.
lol it's not about comparing for f sake...
Cleverly - Kovalev, Chisora - Scott, Froch - Groves and now Chisora - Pala. Can you see the pattern?
Well actually it's illegal to turn your back to the action so...
You're right, to be honest I'm surprised why ref didn't add Chisora 3 points for reminding Pala that it's illegal by throwing legal punches on the back of Pala's head.
Protect yourself at all times... Pala was having some kind of conference with the ropes, not sure what he was at.
So many people don't know what "protect yourself at all times" means.
Protect yourself at all times... Pala was having some kind of conference with the ropes, not sure what he was at.
Yep, the lad did himself no favours by turning his back and not covering up at all.