Just tell Manny to stop ducking Floyd, he doesnt want it. He turned down a Drug test, He needed a special Stadium, He wants the lion share of the money, Stop bringing up excuses. Floyd called him out....Pac: I need to talk to Bob. lol
The OFFICIAL RECORD SAYS PAC LOST TO BRADLEY. SO HE LOST. Holmes beat spinks so I guess holmes was actually 49-0, and what about the other score cards that didnt go your way, do we change those also.......He lost and moved on, then lost again, then fought a punching bag cause he cant handle elite competition:rofl:
The fanboy is strong in this one.
I bet on him the 1st fight, saw him win which will always be disputed.
I'll back him again, with 2 fully working ankles. He will make pac look VERY average.
Yes, he'd be a lock for #2. His resume would overall be better than Ward's. Not to mention his two signature wins--Pacquiao and Marquez, would easily surpass any wins on Wards resume.
i currently have rigo as #3 if he beats pac ill have him there instead, but #2 is ward and thats not gonna change any time soon.
I agree with the whole Ward being 2 thing no matter what but how is rigo 3
ok, i misinterpreted your words,, I thought you were saying oscar offered to go to 147 to make fight happen when in reality he was always going to have his last few fights at 147
Dawson volunteered to go to 168 to get a big pay day with ward, he wasnt going to fight anyone else at 168, whereas oscar was going to fight at 147 regardless if manny accepted or not
Their reasons and intended length of stay are irrelevant both volunteered to move down in weight and both were completely dead at the weight.
So, Oscar offered to go down then, no?
He volunteered to go down to 147 like Dawson did 168, which is exactly what I'm saying.
ok, i misinterpreted your words,, I thought you were saying oscar offered to go to 147 to make fight happen when in reality he was always going to have his last few fights at 147
Dawson volunteered to go to 168 to get a big pay day with ward, he wasnt going to fight anyone else at 168, whereas oscar was going to fight at 147 regardless if manny accepted or not
Oscar didnt offer to go down,, that was his whole plan from the first floyd fight,,
he was going to slowly go down in weight and rematch floyd at 147, hence why he fought forbes at 150 in the spring, was suppose to rematch floyd at 147 in sept, but they couldnt agree to terms, and then win or lose vs floyd he was going to take one last money fight vs a smaller guy at 147..
Manny had no say in the matter,, It was all oscar, thinking he could reclaim old glory of the 90s when he was a huge fighter beating up smaller guys ie leija, genaro, chavez, etc
It obviously backfired, but manny didnt force or even ask oscar to go to 147, Oscar would have fought anyone at that weight, because he thought (wrongly) that he could recapture old glory at the lower weight,,
Oscar stated in many interviews that guys like hatton and manny were on his radar, and he had no wish to fight cotto or margs
So, Oscar offered to go down then, no?
He volunteered to go down to 147 like Dawson did 168, which is exactly what I'm saying.
It was the Top guys at 168 and 175....fighting at 168.
Dawson was clearly dead at the weight it's absolutely clear to see.
It doesn't matter if Dawson volunteered to go down or not, he was dead at the weight. His fault or not you don't get credit for being someone who's clearly drained.
Oscar offered to go down to 147 for Pacquaio but he doesn't get credit for that either because he was obviously dead.
And Dawson wanted a catchweight anyway and Ward wouldn't budge.
Oscar didnt offer to go down,, that was his whole plan from the first floyd fight,,
he was going to slowly go down in weight and rematch floyd at 147, hence why he fought forbes at 150 in the spring, was suppose to rematch floyd at 147 in sept, but they couldnt agree to terms, and then win or lose vs floyd he was going to take one last money fight vs a smaller guy at 147..
Manny had no say in the matter,, It was all oscar, thinking he could reclaim old glory of the 90s when he was a huge fighter beating up smaller guys ie leija, genaro, chavez, etc
It obviously backfired, but manny didnt force or even ask oscar to go to 147, Oscar would have fought anyone at that weight, because he thought (wrongly) that he could recapture old glory at the lower weight,,
Oscar stated in many interviews that guys like hatton and manny were on his radar, and he had no wish to fight cotto or margs
That's BS. It was the top guys at 168 and 175 going at it to prove who's the best. Dawson volunteered to go down. Not Ward's fault. Folks on here discredit everybody but Pacquiao.
It was the Top guys at 168 and 175....fighting at 168.
Dawson was clearly dead at the weight it's absolutely clear to see.
It doesn't matter if Dawson volunteered to go down or not, he was dead at the weight. His fault or not you don't get credit for being someone who's clearly drained.
Oscar offered to go down to 147 for Pacquaio but he doesn't get credit for that either because he was obviously dead.
And Dawson wanted a catchweight anyway and Ward wouldn't budge.
Oh, god. When did I say one judge had it as a SD? I predicted that a SD would be the outcome of the fight. When the fight ended, that's what I thought the decision would be. It is not that difficult to understand.
Again:
"I had Marquez winning the fight via SD"
"It's quite simple really, I thought the fight was close so I knew there would be at least a judge who could see it for Bradley. However, I believed the majority would see Marquez winning the fight; therefore my prediction for a SD. "
The way you said it the first time sounded like you scored it as a SD. YOu didn't say you predicted a SD lol. Not sure why you told us your prediction, he clearly beat Juan. I'm asking a completely diff question
Honestly man how can 1 judge rule a fight a split decision???:rofl:
Oh, god. When did I say one judge had it as a SD? I predicted that a SD would be the outcome of the fight. When the fight ended, that's what I thought the decision would be. It is not that difficult to understand.
Again:
"I had Marquez winning the fight via SD"
"It's quite simple really, I thought the fight was close so I knew there would be at least a judge who could see it for Bradley. However, I believed the majority would see Marquez winning the fight; therefore my prediction for a SD. "
well youre an idiot so what you say doesnt really matter, how can you have someone winning by SD when only your score matters? :rofl:
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If floyd wanted to he could school Bradley lol, it wouldn't be close.
No, no he doesn't.
Also, if Bradley beats Pac, what's Floyd gonna do about that?
Oh yeah, fight Khan. :rofl:
I wonder the same thing when it comes to you. I truly hope, for real, that you are not as dumb as you appear to be. One can predict that a fight can result in a SD for a certain fighter.Honestly man how can 1 judge rule a fight a split decision???:rofl:
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