better fighter p4p, rios or baldomir?...

well he was #1 for about 3 years when baldomir became champ. you said he was never #1 so you were wrong. he beat 8 top 10 fighters during his run at welterweight as opposed to 1 by judah. maybe none of them were great until cotto but they were solid fighters. similar to golovking is now and martinez, quillin, and whoever else don't want any part of him. in 5 years when golovking loses you will say he was a bum and quillin was the truth lol. the WBO belt was meaningless. His best win was Cintron, just stop lol

and for people saying margarito didn't beat any champs that's a false argument. did you forget mayorga, spinks, and spinks had 3 belts and margarito had the other? they all turned him down so what was he supposed to do fight himself? the belts only became splintered after judah-mayweather fiasco. then you know what happened? margarito won the ibf and wba.

you keep changing the timeline Margarito wasn't unified champ he won a vacant belt lost it and won another vacant belt at the time when Spinks and judah fought who has Margarito beat? well he was #1 for about 3 years when baldomir became champ. you said he was never #1 so you were wrong. he beat 8 top 10 fighters during his run at welterweight as opposed to 1 by judah. maybe none of them were great until cotto but they were solid fighters. similar to golovking is now and martinez, quillin, and whoever else don't want any part of him. in 5 years when golovking loses you will say he was a bum and quillin was the truth lol.

you keep changing the timeline Margarito wasn't unified champ he won a vacant belt lost it and won another vacant belt at the time when Spinks and judah fought who has Margarito beat? Sergio Martinez in 2000 and Kermit Cintron that's who the great Margarito has beaten.

http://i42.tinypic.com/rwm3bm.png margarito had 8 top 10 wins during his run and a win over sergio martinez. also as we've already gone over mayorga, spinks, judah, baldomir, and floyd all turned down fights with him so what could he do? keep winning right like floyd said? beating 8 top 10 guys isn't enough though....being unfied champ isn't enough though....being #1 for 4 plus years isn't enough though....oh he eventually lost what a bum i knew it. you keep changing the timeline Margarito wasn't unified champ he won a vacant belt lost it and won another vacant belt at the time when Spinks and judah fought who has Margarito beat?

Margarito wasn't ranked #1 by anybody never beat a champion, Margarito best win was a no name Cintron http://i42.tinypic.com/rwm3bm.png margarito had 8 top 10 wins during his run and a win over sergio martinez. also as we've already gone over mayorga, spinks, judah, baldomir, and floyd all turned down fights with him so what could he do? keep winning right like floyd said? beating 8 top 10 guys isn't enough though....being unfied champ isn't enough though....being #1 for 4 plus years isn't enough though....oh he eventually lost what a bum i knew it.

Baldomir was more proven. Rios has zero good wins and should have three loses at this point. Even just Zab is better than anything Rios has done.

why is judah such a great win? especially at welter? he was 1-5 against top 10 guys there. also a debatable win against pineda. and add in the fact that mayorga, spinks, judah, clown posse wanted no part of #1 ranked margarito and their lineage becomes fraudulent just like martinezs with golovking. Margarito wasn't ranked #1 by anybody never beat a champion, Margarito best win was a no name Cintron

never said that ...but there are fighters that dont have a better win than a judah , like say mathysse, guerrero , etc , and it's clear as day they are better fighters than baldomir..it's the same case with rios ... Rios was outboxed by Abril for god sake Rios never showed you he could anything above 135 ever

well he was deducted 2 points so the judges had it 7 rounds to 3 after 10 and one had it 8 to 2. all reasonable scores. he was winning easily and the dq was bollocks. wasn't even close to something as bad as andre ward. baldomir was a crybaby and started crying because he was being dominated so the ref felt bad and dq'd clottey. dude, if you want to argue what would have been without the butts & points troll at it........but the simple fact is that clottey was coming in all night with his head. rushing in like a ghanian bull. this is the butt that stopped the fight (mind you, clottey was doing this ALL night long) even there was a round where carlos was starting to get to clottey and he was headbutted HARD for his efforts :rofl: why wouldn't you take points? he was rushing in headbutting all night long (he even made it a little tactic) clottey was known in those days for headbutting anyway so it's not shocking. LISTEN TO THAT SOUND OF THE BUTT hahahaha (that was happening all night long) @ 2:44

Lol of course. Bunch of PAC fans vote for rios. Thread is useless

never said that ...but there are fighters that dont have a better win than a judah , like say mathysse, guerrero , etc , and it's clear as day they are better fighters than baldomir..it's the same case with rios ... mathyesse has wins over soto, peterson, (he really beat alexander) and many had the judah fight close. so thats a better string of wins then what baldomir had on his resume. Guerrero had berto, Katsidis, older Casamayor, (around the same as baldomir to be honest) rios has Acosta, Murray, Alvarado (can't include anthony peterson because he didn't fight anyone apart from rios) rios's resume is noticeably poorer then baldomirs...........even looking at both guys (because a lot of guys like to do the "eye test") rios still doesn't look better then baldomir..........so why is rios pfp better then baldomir to you?

why is judah such a great win? especially at welter? he was 1-5 against top 10 guys there. also a debatable win against pineda. and add in the fact that mayorga, spinks, judah, clown posse wanted no part of #1 ranked margarito and their lineage becomes fraudulent just like martinezs with golovking.

& you also troll all day long...........so it's hard to take it seriously. before the stoppage i had clottey up by a measly 2 points (same as the 2 judges scoring the fight) well he was deducted 2 points so the judges had it 7 rounds to 3 after 10 and one had it 8 to 2. all reasonable scores. he was winning easily and the dq was bollocks. wasn't even close to something as bad as andre ward. baldomir was a crybaby and started crying because he was being dominated so the ref felt bad and dq'd clottey.

how come floyd looked like sh1t boxing baldomir? ... pac looked excllent boxing rios ?... is'nt floyd a better boxer?....hmmn

i've seen the fight. clottey won almost every round. & you also troll all day long...........so it's hard to take it seriously. before the stoppage i had clottey up by a measly 2 points (same as the 2 judges scoring the fight)

since when did a win over alvarado become better then judah? even baldomir was very much in the fight with clottey (i know clottey head butted & it was stopped by dq for persistent butts) but that fight was close..........maybe you could argue that clottey was up by one or 2 points. but the fight was close. how is rios better then baldomir.............. never said that ...but there are fighters that dont have a better win than a judah , like say mathysse, guerrero , etc , and it's clear as day they are better fighters than baldomir..it's the same case with rios ...

since when did a win over alvarado become better then judah? even baldomir was very much in the fight with clottey (i know clottey head butted & it was stopped by dq for persistent butts) but that fight was close..........maybe you could argue that clottey was up by one or 2 points. but the fight was close. gatti clottey judah are better opponents then anything rios has ever faced.......... joke i've seen the fight. clottey won almost every round.

since when did a win over alvarado become better then judah? even baldomir was very much in the fight with clottey (i know clottey head butted & it was stopped by dq for persistent butts) but that fight was close..........maybe you could argue that clottey was up by one or 2 points. but the fight was close. gatti clottey judah are better opponents then anything rios has ever faced.......... joke

Lol,anyway ya'll enjoy,got work in the morning...peace