What do Rios/Canelo/Guerrero have in common ?

Rios, Canelo, Guerrero, Ortiz, Clottey, Mosley have been gun shy when facing thee absolute best in boxing. its truly amazing to watch the talent level sepration from these guys who look great in a fight against someone their level to moving up to the big stage against Mayweather or Pacquiao. When we are watching as fans we are saying to ourselves why arent they throwing or punching!! But yesterday Brandon Rios gave the perfect answer saying "he didnt want to eave himself open to grt countered!" The only ones who have not been gun shy are guys like Cotto, Marquez (against pac, may embarrased him) , and Bradley! This goes to show Bradley's got what it takes cuz he aint afraid of the moment and wants it. I hope he does get that Mayweather shot before a pac-rematch to keep his string going of fighting elites Cement tied to their feet

I agree. Both came out guns blazing in rounds 1-6. After that, both fighters packed it in and chose to live to fight another day. Must be why Bradley won like the last 4 rounds because he was "gunshy"after the 6th :nono:

Might have been impressed if names like Martinez and GGG were up there,but................ 5 plus divisions and both very much undersized in there current division but you still arent impressed. Ill be impressed when the 2 guys you name beat Ward, Hopkins, Froch, etc. Dont worry about it though; thats unreasonable.....

Might have been impressed if names like Martinez and GGG were up there,but................ True true Chavez Jr. got outclassed as well against Martinez , then landed that lucky shot in the 12th when he finally let his hands go. GGG is on his way!! hopefully he gets that "De La Hoya' type fight to stay on top of boxing against Martinez or Andre Ward

Cotto and Bradley were one hundred percent gun shy for most of their fights against Pacquiao. I agree. Both came out guns blazing in rounds 1-6. After that, both fighters packed it in and chose to live to fight another day.

Like I said in the other thread, it's not an unwillingness to throw punches as much as not being able to. When you are so outclassed that nothing is working, any normal human being is going to hesitate to let their hands go. Especially fighters at a world class level who are not used to being helpless in a fight. Even Carl Froch was hesitant against Groves. I maybe wrong i just remember from Canelo and Guerrero they still threw a lot maybe not at their regular rate they just had a problem connecting but they got countered Rios could have thrown more and missed more but he would have certainly got countered more and possibly ko'd. the difference is mannys power makes a guy more hesitant to get countered than Floyds power does

They're all exceptionally average fighters?

they were all paid to lose. boxing is fixed.

Cotto and Bradley were one hundred percent gun shy for most of their fights against Pacquiao. Ehhh, not really. Bradley was willing to exchange quite a bit with Pacquiao (ended up on the wrong end the entire time). Cotto was being outfought up until the 6th round, then he went into survival mode.

I wouldn't label Canelo and Guerrero as being gun shy they were more outclassed but they weren't fighting clottey style against mayweather Like I said in the other thread, it's not an unwillingness to throw punches as much as not being able to. When you are so outclassed that nothing is working, any normal human being is going to hesitate to let their hands go. Especially fighters at a world class level who are not used to being helpless in a fight. Even Carl Froch was hesitant against Groves.

Cotto and Bradley were one hundred percent gun shy for most of their fights against Pacquiao.

Might have been impressed if names like Martinez and GGG were up there,but................

I wouldn't label Canelo and Guerrero as being gun shy they were more outclassed but they weren't fighting clottey style against mayweather